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Miles Camo is actually pretty awesome
BitterSteel
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Ok, I literally just had a penny drop moment after watching Seatin's video. I had no idea Miles' camo applied to all unblockable attacks, not just specials. I quite literally did a double-take, and am embarrassed I missed this pretty obvious phrasing.
I know it's bugged at the moment but I was under the impression that, similar to Spider-Gwen, Miles' camo only applied to special attacks. But checking his abilities it does say all attacks. So what does this mean?
It means every time the opponent launches a special attack and when you launch yours, you get 8 seconds of Ghost phasing any unblockable hit, basic, heavy or special. Imagine taking unblockable finale and they throw a special attack, you can miss the entire special, let them throw a combo at you and just dodge it. That's actually pretty nuts. If you throw a special attack, you can charge a heavy and they will miss to let you throw it. Imagine War machine on this node, who cares, you'll miss every hit.
Aspect of war is going to be a joke now, if you don't know, after 50 seconds they go unblockable and every time they throw a special they go unstoppable passively for 6 seconds. Now, if you wait out the 50 seconds before they're unblockable, the rest of the fight is an absolute doddle, they throw their special and they're unstoppable, but who cares, literally just let them throw their attacks right at you.
Rage? Fancy an entire fight where you can just miss their attacks? Sure, trigger rage 5 times and they're unblockable the whole fight!
Steady build up - unblockable in war - maybe a bit of a niche match up, but I started writing this 5 mins ago and can't think of many interactions off the top of my head. You can get those 3 debuffs on you and just miss them by keeping Camo up as much as possible.
Now I know this isn't the most OP utility ever, but I actually think it's really cool. And I absolutely cannot wait for it to be fixed so I can go and test it out and see if it's as cool as I think it is. Any other interactions people can think of?
I know it's bugged at the moment but I was under the impression that, similar to Spider-Gwen, Miles' camo only applied to special attacks. But checking his abilities it does say all attacks. So what does this mean?
It means every time the opponent launches a special attack and when you launch yours, you get 8 seconds of Ghost phasing any unblockable hit, basic, heavy or special. Imagine taking unblockable finale and they throw a special attack, you can miss the entire special, let them throw a combo at you and just dodge it. That's actually pretty nuts. If you throw a special attack, you can charge a heavy and they will miss to let you throw it. Imagine War machine on this node, who cares, you'll miss every hit.
Aspect of war is going to be a joke now, if you don't know, after 50 seconds they go unblockable and every time they throw a special they go unstoppable passively for 6 seconds. Now, if you wait out the 50 seconds before they're unblockable, the rest of the fight is an absolute doddle, they throw their special and they're unstoppable, but who cares, literally just let them throw their attacks right at you.
Rage? Fancy an entire fight where you can just miss their attacks? Sure, trigger rage 5 times and they're unblockable the whole fight!
Steady build up - unblockable in war - maybe a bit of a niche match up, but I started writing this 5 mins ago and can't think of many interactions off the top of my head. You can get those 3 debuffs on you and just miss them by keeping Camo up as much as possible.
Now I know this isn't the most OP utility ever, but I actually think it's really cool. And I absolutely cannot wait for it to be fixed so I can go and test it out and see if it's as cool as I think it is. Any other interactions people can think of?
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At first I thought he could be a good counter with more doom bosses incoming but he seems to rely mostly on shock for his damage?
If, and this is a big if, you can keep 100% uptime on Camo by spamming Sp1 and baiting specials, sure, he may work, but at that point there are probably better options.
I think he has a lot more potential than people thing as long as they don't put true focus on everything.
I fully agree for what it's worth. Had a lot of fun with Namor vs brawl Rogue
Not my video but I just saw this, wasn’t aware it had been fixed!
Is it still bugged?
Can’t think of any reason it would be able to hit him
The only thing I would say is that both times it happened the camo was close to expiring. It’s not enough to show a pattern, but it’s a potential explanation?
So he will miss the first hit, and the subsequently get hit by the rest, or will get hit by a projectile. Feel like it's a small change that would hardly game breaking to let him miss the whole attack.
I suppose the logic is there that an enhanced ability node (which doesn’t make the entire special unblockable, only melee hits) wouldn’t extend to the whole special. So Spider-Man’s sp1 doesn’t have unblockable web shots, but the punches are. Technically, Gwen shouldn’t evade the first 2 shots, but would with the punches. And same with Miles’ miss.
Have you had experience with Gwen missing entire enhanced specials? It’s slipping my mind whether I have.
Oh yeah, I've tested both of them over the past couple of days.
Gwen will evade all of the hits from a special, she will even evade if the first hit is a projectile (basically making enhanced special node null, and the special completely blockable)
https://streamable.com/pu4xzh
Here you will see her evading all hits of Havok SP1, I've ran that path numerous times (V6 1.3) and also Cable (V7 3.1) with the same results.
Timestamps if you want to skip
0:00 Rage node
2:59 Aspect of War
5:58 Abyss unblockable/unstoppable node
9:08 Unblockable Finale
11:08 Vigorous Assault
@Wicket329 you were right, it is very funny to fight unstoppable/unblockable opponents with Miles.
Does Miles avoid damage or not?