Next Month's Buffs?

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I know it's close to Christmas so a lot of people are partying but please remember to do so in moderation.

That being said if they're going to take January off, that's more than understandable and if anything this makes me more optimistic for February's buffs as this will give them plenty of time to do a pair of proper overhauls. 🤞🤞🤞

J0eySn0w

I agree, according to Kabam buffs and reworks takes a couple of weeks definitely more than a month don't remember the exact so they can definitely let us know the champions if they want to.

KDoggg2017

Greenlighted. Make it so, #1! 😝

Mysterio

@BitterSteel If your Green Goblin theory turns out to be true, I will be happy to see my friends finally be buffed and gain some respect.

TheLegend27

I'm going to be an **** since I, and everyone else at my work, met deadlines in preparation for taking time off for the holidays.

You guys really couldn't even do numbers-only tweaks on some of the handful of champs that would have benefited from such small changes? Especially when we consider that the character development team only had 1 new champ to work on for December...

Again, this is my unrestrained **** side. Don't take it to heart.

Texas_11

Let em' live legend, Let em' live.

Rookiie

I’m also an employee, and I sacrificed two weeks of leave to help others meet their deadlines and keep everything stable.
Now, nobody is asking Kabam to go the extra mile.
Just a small numbers change on DDHK would keep all parties satisfied; I’m fairly certain.
Please talk to Kabam John, guys. Arrange something.
If not now then in the New Year, early on.

Demonzfyre

My god. Why...just..why?

Shadowstrike

Man you're going to feel bad if John had really important plans with his spouse and or family and you want him to put that on hold for you.

Demonzfyre

He said there won't be any buffs for January. They didn't say they shut down work for everything. They just aren't having champion buffs.

Even still, regardless of what you want, it's their game and their company. They don't tell you how to go about your life. Comments like yours is why this community tends to be one of the most toxic communities. You think your needs and wants are above everything else.

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Chobbly

I agree with the sentiment @Konstant45 .

Yes, there are things we all want in the game. There are things we all want to see. And there are things which can be done, should be done.

But from another perspective, I can imagine this has been a pretty hard year for Kabam staff. I understand the challenges with working with a legacy code base. From what we know about the Parry buff or was a nightmare to diagnose.

Let's all chill, ok? Asking nicely is better than shouting after all.

Rookiie

You’re right, maybe we should step off Kabam a little.
But here are my two cents if you will have them:
For most of us, the buff program is one of the most valuable initiatives for the community, because it boosts our rosters and gives us more options for content and resources.
Shortening the development timelines, but delivering a new feature in Strikers next month, along with new champions, concerns me. If you look at their track record, shortening the timelines implies that they will cover less ground with testing and QA, and you know what that means; remember, new feature. Even if they do cover that ground internally, who knows what the player base will find; remember the skip SP3 bug?
I’m not mad at Kabam, but they’re writing their own ticket. The buff program could have been a quick win for them next month. Instead, well …
And I’m just choosing to voice my concern. In no way, shape or form do I think even an hour should be sacrificed from holiday time.

Rookiie

I definitely wouldn’t want anybody at Kabam to sacrifice even a minute of their holiday time for this.
If they can squeeze a discussion in before their leave, great. If not, then in the New Year.
Sorry if there was a lack of context or a misperceived intention.

Chobbly

For us is a game. For Kabam it's meetings, test plans, development sprints, unit testing, staging and everything else.

One of the reasons why we've been pushing for a 'lite' tweak for DDHK is partially acknowledging this. Kabam have 1001 other priorities and I genuinely feel that by doing this as a quick fix, and maybe other mini buffs, it will make their life a little easier and our experiences in the Contest a proper more rewarding.

That's why we keep nagging, but trying to do this in an open, positive way for DDHK. Because if that works, a positive engagement on difficult subjects can happen again, and again, and again.

Rookiie

Oh God, you just reminded me of work.
Take leave Kabam, take leave 😵‍💫

Kabam Miike

Numbers adjustments are not small or easy and require just about as much testing and balancing as a full update. This is one of the reasons we stopped doing as many, and also told players about that when we changed the update cadence.

Rookiie

Fair enough. Thanks for the response on the DDHK thread - if anything, I’m glad it came from you.

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Rookiie

I think it’s final. Let’s pray the reworks for Spider-Man, OG DD, Elektra, Luke Cage and Iron Fist make a significant impact on DDHK.
Always holding out for the best ✌🏼🕊

DrZola

Honest question (and about more than just DDHK): what is the objective of the champ update program as it stands today?

I confess I’m no longer sure I know. But I’d appreciate dialogue.

Dr. Zola

DrZola

Reading the tea leaves here…but my takeaway would be to expect the overall worst and least used champs to be targeted for updates.

If so, that’s great. As a corollary, I’d also expect champs who have a fairly clear and established use to remain more or less as is.

Not sure if this is the correct interpretation, but it’s my starting point.

Dr. Zola

Wicket329

Good lord the toxicity in this thread.

Y’all, let’s be upfront about this part: anybody who does not actively work on this game has no idea what the workload of the team working on this game is like. The same way that I don’t know what any of your lives are like and y’all don’t know mine. So to say things like “I got my work done, why can’t you do yours?” is outrageous.

Second, I saw comments about a shortened development window on Strikers because of holiday time off? What? Strikers was announced a year ago! I’m sure that another week wouldn’t be a make or break difference at this point. The work on it is done and, while I’m sure it will still have issues to be discovered by the player base, the in house work has done all it can do.

I totally get having a champion that you’re passionate about and want to see be better in the game. I was one of the loud voices around the Guillotine debacle. But c’mon now. When they say in mid-December that there’s no buffs slated for January because they’ve already done a ton of work and it’s the holidays and you respond with “no, buff my champion in January. Don’t take time off.” That’s grotesque.

Everybody deserves a break. Everybody should be allowed time off. If you are sitting here thinking “well, I do but *they* don’t,” then you are wrong and possibly broken inside. If the game means so much to you that you need other people to suffer to maintain your enjoyment, then you also need to take some time off.

FluffyPigMonster

I’d like to say that although I did not expect a complete overhaul to DDHK, I feel we presented and responded with solutions for the last few weeks with very sensible and fair reasons as to why we wanted these changes.

The response to the thread was weeks after the requests started - so the excuses that the buff program is a certain way and the priorities of the company (albeit maybe true) are just that. Why did it take so long to elicit a response and allow us to hope for something? It’s terrible terrible forum management by the spokespeople.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - while the vision and developer priorities are what they are, the fact that Kabam can’t have civil interactions with people who have legitimate concerns keeps the company from reaching its full potential.

WE - the community - are the ones who pay money for this game. Whatever artistic liberties Kabam takes to do what they feel in the game are just that.

A blanket statement that a champion won’t be adjusted and the administrative closing of a thread that the company doesn’t like - is bad business. Especially on a Saturday which means you’ve been reading these for weeks and have waited until now to respond and close the thread?

I can’t express how bad the customer relations appear to be, with the expectation that the community needs to just accept things for the way they are.

If there was a phone number available I’d call to speak to an adult, but none is listed as the way to manage phone calls is to just eliminate the middle man - just like closing the thread.

Shadowstrike

After everything that we have read in this thread, if this is going to be your reaction to the whole situation then they should close it down but more importantly your statement highlights the actual problem that is going in this community. Kabam is full of flaws and no one is denying that, plenty of people are in fact taking them to task for their mistakes, including themselves but when people are making statements like this, you highlight why the community as a whole can never really be fully respected because it itself cannot be fully respectable.

If you really believe that that's the problem, that they can't communicate like an adult, then by all means like I've said before, if you want to see this dramatic change in tone throughout the company and how it approaches the community, then please.. I'm begging you, I'm pleading with you, go fill out the application and get up to Canada and see if you can do it better because that's the only way we're ever going to see any change that people are demanding we see.

I'm tired of this US versus THEM mentality and I am tired of this imaginary War for something as frankly stupid as percentages and how no one can actually agree on what it is they want so we're fighting over that as well. I care about the game and everyone both behind the scenes and in the community who played and I just want everyone to be on that same page so we can be something great and it could be one of those games that lasts for as long as humanly possible and continues to grow and change with the Next Generation. But it's all on us working together.

BigPoppaCBONE

How could they possibly take anywhere near as much testing? Keep them within established envelopes and it would be pretty easy to do. Adding furies to a champ? Is it possible for their attack to go over 14K for more than 5 seconds? No, then go for it. Adding crit rating? Built-in limits already, so go nuts. Champ has regen? How does it compare to KG/OML/Wolverine? Plot it out and as long as the changes stay in the boundaries, they won't break the game.

GrandOldKai

I'm going to be honest - I have trouble remembering what Nova's tune-up actually was.

Anyway, indeed bad things can happen if changes are rushed out without any sort of testing.

Demonzfyre

They are hiring. If you think it's so easy, go apply and see.

GroundedWisdom

It's not just a matter of changing some values and throwing them back into The Contest. These things take time and testing. While this process isn't perfect, there's still a process to it nonetheless.

FluffyPigMonster

Then work together and let’s stop the apologist approach. We all want the same thing.

It’s less about the percentages or about a champ like DDHK.

It’s about how we’re treated. Silence silence silence and then closed thread.

No discussion. No dialogue. Nothing.

There are two ways to look at this. The way I do is a realistic customer - company relationship.

This is what I want - is this possible? If the game was not filled with Marvel characters and just a general game with made up people, would we care? No. If you replaced DDHK with “Bob”, nobody would care about his regen.

That’s a worthwhile discussion. Everything doesn’t have to be contrarian to show how smart someone is.

It’s a problem. Fix it. Done and move on.

We can’t and this is why in a constructive manner.

I feel we’re treated like children. It’s how I feel. I don’t hold it against anyone else who feels differently.

The apologist way is the same as someone driving 30 MPH in a 55 thinking they trooper will like them more.

Yes, let’s work together - but it must be to solve a problem - not to argue who’s smarter. Solve the problem. We try to all be right instead of solving the problem.