More champs need the Winter Soldier treatment

DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,887 ★★★★★
in General Discussion
More champs should get some love like WS did, one that comes to mind more than any is Hawkeye! Yes his bleed is great! And the power drain, his sig is shambolic though! Only triggers once per fight!

But he should get different arrows, incinerate, shock, poison! It would be a great change to him!

I am sure more champs could have something like that too!

What you guys/girls think?

Comments

  • KhanMedinaKhanMedina Member Posts: 927 ★★★
    I agree he needs some love with the trick arrows, but he's still my most used skill guy overall so hard to say he needs a buff. Black Panther was made obsolete by Gwenpool. He needs attention desperately.

    Thread is correct though. They definitely need to redo all of the unpopular champs so people don't feel like they lost a roll at dice when she hulk pops out. Everything should be good for something other than generic immunity.
  • Jwallace25Jwallace25 Member Posts: 481 ★★★
    Kamela Kahn: needs a more efficient way of activating fury. When trying to build fury by holding heavy, all she does is get hit and pummeled. At least let her have the ability to evade when holding the heavy like Quake does.

    Spider Gwen: please just give her a real attack for her L1, please.

    Thor Ragnorok: change the silly idle dancing animation.

    Colossus: Needs some sort of indestructible for his awakened feature.

    That's all off the top of my head.
  • TheremonTheremon Member Posts: 62 ★
    I agree with Hawkeye, we've been suggesting that since they gave that option to WS. Poison arrows would especially be good, since there are so few champs that can deal poison.

    And the new Thor definitely needs to stop dancing. That's even more ridiculous than Doc Ock's fingers.
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Theremon wrote: »
    I agree with Hawkeye, we've been suggesting that since they gave that option to WS. Poison arrows would especially be good, "since there are so few champs that can deal poison."

    And the new Thor definitely needs to stop dancing. That's even more ridiculous than Doc Ock's fingers.

    And one of them just happens to be an abomination.
  • Whododo872Whododo872 Member Posts: 1,042 ★★★
    charaderdude2 wrote: »
    Theremon wrote: »
    I agree with Hawkeye, we've been suggesting that since they gave that option to WS. Poison arrows would especially be good, "since there are so few champs that can deal poison."

    And the new Thor definitely needs to stop dancing. That's even more ridiculous than Doc Ock's fingers.

    And one of them just happens to be an abomination.

    His poison is defensive. I think we’re talking about offensive poison
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Whododo872 wrote: »
    charaderdude2 wrote: »
    Theremon wrote: »
    I agree with Hawkeye, we've been suggesting that since they gave that option to WS. Poison arrows would especially be good, "since there are so few champs that can deal poison."

    And the new Thor definitely needs to stop dancing. That's even more ridiculous than Doc Ock's fingers.

    And one of them just happens to be an abomination.

    His poison is defensive. I think we’re talking about offensive poison

    Well,In his sig(unless we're talking unduped) it says "contact with the abomination irradiated poison",So,I think,It can be considered as both defensive and offensive Poison, Right?
  • cyp82cyp82 Member Posts: 4
    I'd say leave hawkeyes SP1 alone and make his SP 2 have a random effect like SL sp2. spidergwen is fine. most of the time you want to use the SP2 anyway so what is the big deal? Colossus needs reworked. I think kabam knows that already.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,887 ★★★★★
    Don't get me wrong I know many champs need a buff/review, but the way WS works would defo suit Hawkeye.
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  • IAmNotUrMomIAmNotUrMom Member Posts: 648 ★★★
    I like this idea, but I would tweak it a little...instead of controlling what triggers why not have it rotate:
    first hit is hemorrhage, second is shock, third is poison, fourth is incinerate and then maybe it is capped.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    SmokinSurfer wrote: »
    They are working on improving old champs so don't go selling anyone. They did mention this.

    Did they provide a list of who they are working on? And any deadline?

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  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,887 ★★★★★
    SmokinSurfer wrote: »
    Spurgeo14 wrote: »
    SmokinSurfer wrote: »
    They are working on improving old champs so don't go selling anyone. They did mention this.

    Did they provide a list of who they are working on? And any deadline?

    No not at all lol, but i would expect to see some soon

    Yep I agree, I think the anniversary last time was where you could buy a class deal, so a lot got the mystic deals for SW and then DS then not too long after the nerf come.

    So possible about Jan/Feb we could see the next wave of champ changes.
  • Nemesis666Nemesis666 Member Posts: 184 ★
    Upgrade hawkeye and I'll buy 15 Odins.
  • NomarigerolNomarigerol Member Posts: 159 ★
    edited November 2017
    Upgrade Loki and I'll be your ****. Even though his nice synergies with Hela and Thor Ragnarok are sweet, he needs some improvements
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,979 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    A change to reflect Hawkeye's 'Swiss Army Knife' set of arrows would be good. Two main options would be:

    1 - Arrow types like WS's ammo types.

    2 - Change his Sig to "Hawkeye has an XX% chance to use a class-specific arrow", and have arrows that have additional class-specific effects the way She-Hulk or Miles Morales do. Examples:

    Skill - Inflicts concussion (reduced ability accuracy and crit rate)
    Mystic - Power Lock
    Science - Incinerate
    Tech - Armour Break
    Cosmic - Nullify
    Mutant - Heal Block or Poison (Neurotoxin?)
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Carnage needs the most attention. He’s just woeful.
    More damage, more health, more fluid bleed generation, some anti evade ability, and fix his sig to steal health and energy from bleeding targets instead of the lame increased power gain it is now.

    Spidergwen needs to have both of her modes rolled into one and either increase her damage/survivability or give her some utility.
    Plus a damaging L1.
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