I would rather have the t6b and t3a to r4 a champion then a random class gem

Primis00Primis00 Member Posts: 270 ★★★
You dont want to make that gem generic, fine, atleast give me the catalyst so i can take up whoever i want. Id still have to use all the other catalyst like t5b and t5cc but atleast i would have a choice. Having it random removes all choice meaning that gem could be useless for many people for months or even years before they get the champion they actually want to r4 in that class. its the end of an entire act and the best reward is once again random, and it sucks.
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  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    edited March 2022
    Generic is miles better but Kabam is not that type of company.
    Now I have to see what RNG will give me. I have good champs in all classes but still dissappointed.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    If they wanted you to take up Anu champ they'd give you a generic
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR
  • Perfect_jabPerfect_jab Member Posts: 95
    For all the time an money invested in getting act 7 done 100% , you want kabam RNG to decide who you can take to R4. Land on a class that you dont have a champ you want to R4 so it sits in your stash. Yea thats just what players want.
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  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    _Sham_ said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    why would you R4 guilli99 ? even 3 star destroy everything. I regret that I R3d mine as now it's even tougher to get to sp3 when you have 100 combo. she kill them too fast and I lose the advantage for next fight. Also ghost already hit like truck , she doesn't need R4 either.

    You should R4 someone who will benefit from increased rating.
    G299 was my first solid champ In roster. She's done so much for my account. I use her most of the time than other champs. I like her and brings so much versatility to table. My most fav champ along with void.

    Btw she actually don't need ramp up. I even took map 6 mini maw, many times un ramped and soloed. Only boss fight I ramp her up is Aw only to minimize the risk factor. But I respect your decision and opinion and I really appreciate your feedback about ghost too as r4 really matters for other champs where attack rating can matter.
  • Primis00Primis00 Member Posts: 270 ★★★

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    This basically. Its not that i dont have good champs in every class but i dont want to take up just anybody because they are good, i want to take them up because i enjoy them. Im really hoping for science so i can r4 my Joe Fixit. Tech would probably be guardian, Mutant i would save for Kitty, Mystic would be Diablo, Skill would probably be Shang-Chi and i have no clue about cosmic, Either save for Herc or take up Knull.
  • SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,653 ★★★★★
    Good for you.

    Personally, I already have a lot of R3 materials and with Act 7 exploration, I’ll have something close to a full R4’s worth of materials. That means I’ll have one random R4 vía the gem, and one specific R4 via my own hard work. I feel like the random class rewards is a good idea. @me if you disagree.
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  • Khellendros138Khellendros138 Member Posts: 573 ★★★
    Honestly for me, I am very pleased. The hopes for someone with no desire to slog through the carinas content, or spend money, of getting an R4 seemed so far out of reach. I will be satisfied with whatever class I get. Of course I have great choices for all classes, but even if I didn't, I would save it and be happy.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    Primis00 said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    This basically. Its not that i dont have good champs in every class but i dont want to take up just anybody because they are good, i want to take them up because i enjoy them. Im really hoping for science so i can r4 my Joe Fixit. Tech would probably be guardian, Mutant i would save for Kitty, Mystic would be Diablo, Skill would probably be Shang-Chi and i have no clue about cosmic, Either save for Herc or take up Knull.
    Yes I agree with you. And I can feel u there. Ranking up champs we like is big factor to enjoy the game atleast at this point tho. I hope you get what you want . Luckily in all classes I have the champs which I like to play and will not have problem to r4
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    edited March 2022
    Dracarus said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    You're lucky to have that I think most of us don't have every class I don't have science or cosmic. But I will 100% go for cosmic nexus so I hope I pull cgr or hyperion or corvus dupe at least. For science it's just torch I would r4 idk who else cause the rest need high sigs which game does not give out much of
    I understand your situation. TBH I have other options wich benefit more at r4 eg BWCV or NF but my above options are my fav one especially Elsa,g2099 and void
    jbxotiic said:

    _Sham_ said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    why would you R4 guilli99 ? even 3 star destroy everything. I regret that I R3d mine as now it's even tougher to get to sp3 when you have 100 combo. she kill them too fast and I lose the advantage for next fight. Also ghost already hit like truck , she doesn't need R4 either.

    You should R4 someone who will benefit from increased rating.
    let the man r4 who he wants lol, he worked for it
    Thanks mate for understanding it . I am really pumped up to r4 void or g2099
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    People are still too limited in their choices. Lol. Not everyone, of course. Still, after all these years, it still confuses me.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★

    People are still too limited in their choices. Lol. Not everyone, of course. Still, after all these years, it still confuses me.

    There are lot of factors in so called "Choices" and the word "Limitation".
    People usually go with meta but that doesn't stop them from having fun champs at high ranks. There are certain champs which are absolute favorite of one meanwhile other champ at high rank just cuz out of necessity. I call them necessary evil example Corvus and NF for me.

    RNG plays big factor to acquiring the fav champ or champ you need to clear particular content. So in the end many players end up not having the champs they like. Many players are willing to take thier fav champ to r4 over BGT champs. So without generic or full material of t3a and t6bc hinders them. It would be gamble for them. After all players like to flex their fav champs to others which give joy and motivation to play more. So cutting of that means dissatisfaction. It's not above the quantity, it's about choice. Acquiring fav champ; Rng
    Getting them to r4 again:RNG
    I hope I was able to clear some of your confusion a little bit
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    Dracarus said:

    _Sham_ said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    why would you R4 guilli99 ? even 3 star destroy everything. I regret that I R3d mine as now it's even tougher to get to sp3 when you have 100 combo. she kill them too fast and I lose the advantage for next fight. Also ghost already hit like truck , she doesn't need R4 either.

    You should R4 someone who will benefit from increased rating.
    G299 was my first solid champ In roster. She's done so much for my account. I use her most of the time than other champs. I like her and brings so much versatility to table. My most fav champ along with void.

    Btw she actually don't need ramp up. I even took map 6 mini maw, many times un ramped and soloed. Only boss fight I ramp her up is Aw only to minimize the risk factor. But I respect your decision and opinion and I really appreciate your feedback about ghost too as r4 really matters for other champs where attack rating can matter.
    Don't listen to the haters that's my fav champ as well did the most content for me in the game might consider her or warlock to r4 mb warlock will be better for battlegrounds though
    I'm glad you also like g2099 too.yeah warlock is very good for battlegrounds. Hope you pull tech gem too
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,907 ★★★★★
    I'm not mad at how Kabam has set it up - it's fine in and of itself, as far as I'm concerned - but I do think it's ODD that they'd set it up the way they have. I feel like people should be able to rank up champions through resources before they start handing up rank-up gems. Obviously some early birds have used resources beforehand but I think most people will get their first r4 thanks to that rank-up gem.

    I think that's a shame since one thing I really enjoyed about my first r3 was specifically the hunt for resources. I tracked them down wherever I could and slowly built up to a rank-up. I explored Variants and Cav EQ, with each success bringing me ever closer to the goal. Now, with r4, I'll just get a gem upon Act 7 exploration. That feels a bit empty to me.

    I mean, even now, almost a year after I r3'd my first 6* and became Thronebreaker, I still haven't gotten a 2-3 gem anywhere. I'll get it roughly at the same time that I'll get that 3-4 gem. That seems...weird. As I said, I'm not mad about it. I'm just a bit confused as to why that's the way they went about it. It feels like they are more stingy with the resources than with the gems when it has always been the other way around previously. I mean, even exploration of Act 6 only rewarded you with 1-2 gems, and we haven't seen even a hint of a 2-3 gem in Act 7 until now.

    It's strange. I'll gladly take it, but it's strange.
  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    _Sham_ said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    why would you R4 guilli99 ? even 3 star destroy everything. I regret that I R3d mine as now it's even tougher to get to sp3 when you have 100 combo. she kill them too fast and I lose the advantage for next fight. Also ghost already hit like truck , she doesn't need R4 either.

    You should R4 someone who will benefit from increased rating.
    I've really come around on this opinion. I used to share it back in the day when 5r5 were the max.

    But now, my opinion is that if someone "doesn't need" the r3 or r4 that just means they are already amazing but will be even more amazing at higher rank.

    I understand where the argument comes from but now I see it as total nonsense. This used to be said about archangel who doesn't need r5 as a 5r4 does enough damage (mind you this was before 6 stars). But a r5 would've just finished fights even faster. Timetravel to now and people have r3 archangels and even r4's.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    I'm not mad at how Kabam has set it up - it's fine in and of itself, as far as I'm concerned - but I do think it's ODD that they'd set it up the way they have. I feel like people should be able to rank up champions through resources before they start handing up rank-up gems. Obviously some early birds have used resources beforehand but I think most people will get their first r4 thanks to that rank-up gem.

    I think that's a shame since one thing I really enjoyed about my first r3 was specifically the hunt for resources. I tracked them down wherever I could and slowly built up to a rank-up. I explored Variants and Cav EQ, with each success bringing me ever closer to the goal. Now, with r4, I'll just get a gem upon Act 7 exploration. That feels a bit empty to me.

    I mean, even now, almost a year after I r3'd my first 6* and became Thronebreaker, I still haven't gotten a 2-3 gem anywhere. I'll get it roughly at the same time that I'll get that 3-4 gem. That seems...weird. As I said, I'm not mad about it. I'm just a bit confused as to why that's the way they went about it. It feels like they are more stingy with the resources than with the gems when it has always been the other way around previously. I mean, even exploration of Act 6 only rewarded you with 1-2 gems, and we haven't seen even a hint of a 2-3 gem in Act 7 until now.

    It's strange. I'll gladly take it, but it's strange.

    You can do the same exact thing and get the resources here... Just finish the Carina's challenges
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    There's more than enough from content and Carinas to do what OP wants. OP doesn't want to out the effort into it.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Dracarus said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    You're lucky to have that I think most of us don't have every class I don't have science or cosmic. But I will 100% go for cosmic nexus so I hope I pull cgr or hyperion or corvus dupe at least. For science it's just torch I would r4 idk who else cause the rest need high sigs which game does not give out much of
    Most of the people like you also haven't 100% all content either. Your rosters are severely underdeveloped from just blasting through one time. You probably don't play high tier wars or map 8 in AQ.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Dracarus said:

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    For science it's just torch I would r4 idk who else cause the rest need high sigs which game does not give out much of
    There's a generic AG and 200 generic sig stones in the rewards....
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★★
    edited March 2022

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    There's more than enough from content and Carinas to do what OP wants. OP doesn't want to out the effort into it.
    I get your point about the imbalance generic can cause or the the value of such resources will be downgraded leading to other certain impact in pricing too of other resources.

    But in imo it all track back to gifting event mess up. Generic came before class gem in pay to win and f2p or skilled players who aren't whales had hopes of similar rewards in future. So the freedom what generic or 3 t3a&t6bc can give ,a class gem can't and that's the issue OP is facing.

    Also Carina vol 2 is better than vol 1 and it will take time majority to do it 100%. So you are right here about the resources what OP wants but then again real question remains about the act 7 rewards. Players see that separate content with same rewards. In short, rewards scaling.

    For me I'm satisfied with act 7 exploration rewards. Tho I still believe that 7.4 rewards are underwhelming and could have been better
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,365 ★★★★★
    People are so focused on the gem and they’re forgetting the generic AG, 200 generic sigs, two nexus, and one class nexus. Now, unfortunately you’ll have to pick the class for your nexus before you know what flavor gem you got, but if you know you have one class without an option you want to rank… pick that class nexus. Or maybe it’ll give you encouragement to explore Abyss for that chonky nexus. Or maybe pop a featured or two with the 38,000 6* shards available in 7.4

    So many options!
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★

    I kind of feel what OP is saying. It's about the choice rather than quantity.
    But for me either works as I have all fav champ ranked up in each class

    Mystic :- Doom
    Science:- Void
    Skill :- stealthy/HM(if I get Elsa I will r4 her for sure even undupe)
    Mutant:-Apoc ( other option Stryfe,mags)
    Tech:-G2099(#2ghost )
    Cosmic:- CGR

    There's more than enough from content and Carinas to do what OP wants. OP doesn't want to out the effort into it.
    I get your point about the imbalance generic can cause or the the value of such resources will be downgraded leading to other certain impact in pricing too of other resources.

    But in imo it all track back to gifting event mess up. Generic came before class gem in pay to win and f2p or skilled players who aren't whales had hopes of similar rewards in future. So the freedom what generic or 3 t3a&t6bc can give ,a class gem can't and that's the issue OP is facing.

    Also Carina vol 2 is better than vol 1 and it will take time majority to do it 100%. So you are right here about the resources what OP wants but then again real question remains about the act 7 rewards. Players see that separate content with same rewards. In short, rewards scaling.

    For me I'm satisfied with act 7 exploration rewards. Tho I still believe that 7.4 rewards are underwhelming and could have been better
    We can't compare Carinas to Act 7. Carinas is leagues more difficult compared to Act 7. Carinas deserves the better rewards. Act 7 doesn't. If Act 7 was anywhere near the difficulty of Carinas, I would be right there with everyone saying the current rewards aren't enough.

    Act 7 is following the cadence in how items have been released in the past. We had R3 crystals before R3 generics.
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