The game experienced a brief connectivity issue this morning. The team promptly fixed the issue and things are back to normal, thank you to everyone who passed along reports!
P.S.A. - Black Cat and Scorpion will be the start of the new rebalance program!!
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As @TheKiryu has already pointed, you’ve flat out lied to the community about the conditions for the rebalancing going live.
So why should we have any faith or trust in anything you’ve said here. Why would anyone risk buying something that has the potential to be downgraded? Please try and justify why people should continue to spend money on purchasing something that could end up being worse down the line?
And what say are we going to have in this process? We tried to have our say with the Guillotine change and look what happened there. We’ve tried to have our say with the AW Potions and Kabam does what Kabam does, make unilateral decisions that the vast majority of your customers disagree with. Kabam will ultimately do whatever it wants, but when customers provide you feedback and it’s ignored, when they put forward there frustrations and negative feelings and you keep on ignoring them it will impact on how they play the game, often by not spending money it.
But now that the rebalancing system explicitly states that champions can change within 6 months, I know I will discontinue going after featured crystals, and I can’t fit the square peg of explanation into the circle hole of logic as to why anyone would spend money ever again on them.
I hope I’m wrong
You have basically just said "trust us, we chose not to treat the game and its players right originally but now we promise we are going to treat everyone right" and think this will give us confidence to try and get a new champ right away instead of waiting for the 6 month period to end to see what the champ is actually going to be like.
Since this game came out, even with 12.0, I have never been this disappointed...
And there hasn't even been a single in game announcement about it.
I had asked about the timelines for in game announcement but wasn't given any. At the time people were saying me that it's too early for them to make the in game announcement, but now it's too late to make an in game announcement.
Glad that I'm f2p so i don't really need to worry about the rebalancing.
Personally I'm hoping this brings some good changes to new champs who aren't that great at release. Makes things interesting and fresh!
It literally says we will launch this system when we announce the attributes for approximately 100 champs. They announced the attributes with black cat and scorpion.
The first paragraph said they were going to launch the system along with 30 champs.
Modification of champs has always happened, from clear and cut nerf/buff/reworks, to frame rate adjustments that end up modifying a champ, we really could never rely on a champ we get today will be the same even a month from now.
Correct, there was never an announcement specifically stating that Scorpion and Black Cat would be the first champions assessed under this new program and therefore subject to potential rebalancing. There are multiple posts that people can point at that *almost* say that and where a reasonable person could infer it, but nowhere is it explicitly stated, and that’s the point of contention here.
I, like several others in this thread, just assumed they would be the first ones in the program because of context clues. I guessed the delay would be for one month unless we heard otherwise, and I figured that with the big announcement of the launch of attributes (and specifically naming Scorpion and Black Cat), that meant it was go time. But again, it was never explicitly laid out, and I understand that many players reasonably want to have information from the development team made crystal clear especially when the schedule on this had already been bounced around.
Neither stance is ridiculous or unreasonable to take. There’s no need to be hollering at each other.
I do take issue with the contention that Kabam “flat out lied” in regard to this issue. This may be the lawyer in me, but lying requires intent to deceive that I just don’t see here. I think they changed their plans and communicated that fact in a sub-optimal way, but there was nothing intentionally deceptive about that.
As a general rule, I try not to assume malice when ignorance or incompetence could just as likely be the explanation. People are dumb before they are mean, and there’s not really a benefit to lying about this in the way that they allegedly did.
Anyway, it’ll be six months before we see the actual impact of their inclusion in the program. If y’all want to stay mad that long, be my guest. I’ll forego the wrinkles and just see how it shakes out when the time comes.
Most people will be angry about this for a couple of days before the next slight mishap is exaggerated to be the next thing everyone is furious about.
I think YouTubers who take this and use it to say Kabam are lying have a slight responsibility to not to stoke up hate. I think asking kabam where this slight breakdown in communication happened before jumping to saying they flat out lied would be very helpful to not creating and perpetuating the toxicity that can be found in the community.
I mean, someone said this is the worst they’ve felt since 12.0, really? This slight issue is the worst you’ve felt? Would you think that in a weeks time when everything has calmed down..
Kabam said they would launch the system with 100, and there are 25. They heavily, heavily implied that black cat and scorp are the first for the system - the announcement said attributes are live on those champs and they had previously said that when the attributes go live the balancing system will too. It’s like they said 2+2 and have expected the player base can figure out that means 4. Yes they didn’t say explicitly the attribute system is starting now and that means the the first champions released after will have the balancing - but they sure gave you all the ingredients to work that out.
In future, I’d hope they just go ahead and say 2+2= 4 to avoid any doubt of people misunderstanding.
Everything that has happened has an explanation that doesn’t necessarily mean Kabam lied, why are people so desperate to believe Kabam are lying when it could equally just be a change of plan to launch with the 25 instead? Why not wait, press pause on your anger and see what kabam says about releasing with 25 instead of 100 - maybe the answer isn’t as damning as you seem to want it to be.
Plans change, it doesn’t mean they lied.
Additionally, to confirm, Black Cat and Scorpion are the first Champions under the new balancing program.