Act 6 Carina Challenge Workaround - Intended?

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  • miracle_mufflermiracle_muffler Member Posts: 156 ★★
    Kabam Jax said:

    Immediate follow up!
    Carina's Challenges will be taken down temporarily... again. But they will have them up again very soon. Apparently the build populated with old data. Shouldn't be a lengthy fix.

    Updates to follow.

    I started Astral Anger challenge earlier today, and went with full Cosmic team, as required. Had to stop for few hours, came back, skipped the switch node and finished with Cosmic team, as required. Went to get rewards - bam, they are gone. @Kabam Jax, @Kabam Miike what will happen to people who actually did the challenge properly and got robbed of rewards?
  • 30ish30ish Member Posts: 177 ★★

    Kabam Jax said:

    Immediate follow up!
    Carina's Challenges will be taken down temporarily... again. But they will have them up again very soon. Apparently the build populated with old data. Shouldn't be a lengthy fix.

    Updates to follow.

    I started Astral Anger challenge earlier today, and went with full Cosmic team, as required. Had to stop for few hours, came back, skipped the switch node and finished with Cosmic team, as required. Went to get rewards - bam, they are gone. @Kabam Jax, @Kabam Miike what will happen to people who actually did the challenge properly and got robbed of rewards?
    Your best bet is to open support ticket
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,902 ★★★★★

    Kabam Jax said:

    Immediate follow up!
    Carina's Challenges will be taken down temporarily... again. But they will have them up again very soon. Apparently the build populated with old data. Shouldn't be a lengthy fix.

    Updates to follow.

    I started Astral Anger challenge earlier today, and went with full Cosmic team, as required. Had to stop for few hours, came back, skipped the switch node and finished with Cosmic team, as required. Went to get rewards - bam, they are gone. @Kabam Jax, @Kabam Miike what will happen to people who actually did the challenge properly and got robbed of rewards?
    Resone there’s should had put a mail out
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    I don't think anyone that managed to take advantage of it, knowingly or not, should be punished but it's still an exploit regardless. It's almost impressive they managed to not fix the sole thing they were supposed to fix and not even notice it.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,902 ★★★★★

    I don't think anyone that managed to take advantage of it, knowingly or not, should be punished but it's still an exploit regardless. It's almost impressive they managed to not fix the sole thing they were supposed to fix and not even notice it.

    I’m happy giv them the rewards again
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I don't think that's a necessarily new idea. It's been a common response for a long time. "If they made it possible, it's not our fault."
    That may be grey area for normal gameplay, but in situations where people knowingly take advantage of exploits, that doesn't hold water.
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★

    I don't think anyone that managed to take advantage of it, knowingly or not, should be punished but it's still an exploit regardless. It's almost impressive they managed to not fix the sole thing they were supposed to fix and not even notice it.

    Probably just forgot to transfer all the code. They spent all the time writing it. But forgot to copy paste into the game 💀
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    I don't think anyone that managed to take advantage of it, knowingly or not, should be punished but it's still an exploit regardless. It's almost impressive they managed to not fix the sole thing they were supposed to fix and not even notice it.

    Probably just forgot to transfer all the code. They spent all the time writing it. But forgot to copy paste into the game 💀
    That’s more or less what Jax said, in layman’s terms.
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    edited August 2022
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You want to send them to bed without supper?
  • BeeweeBeewee Member Posts: 556 ★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    But what if he is and its just a mod alt. Would explain a lot
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
    Everyone knows the consequences of stealing.

    Why should everyone know that switching champs was clearly an exploit? If the guy used the right team and got the rewards, he could very well think it was ok. Remember this game is for all ages, why should a child playing this be penalized for the absence of malice in this behavior?
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    I feel bad for your clients.
    Why is that? Unlike GroundedWisdon who brought valid points to the debate, u just personally atacked me saying i dont know shet without giving me 1 good reason to agree with u.. so :)
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    SuelGames said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
    Everyone knows the consequences of stealing.

    Why should everyone know that switching champs was clearly an exploit? If the guy used the right team and got the rewards, he could very well think it was ok. Remember this game is for all ages, why should a child playing this be penalized for the absence of malice in this behavior?
    I don't believe anyone is implying these people would get banned for it. I can't speak for them, but this isn't particularly egregious. However, it would be reasonable if they decided to take back the Rewards. What argument do you have for people completing a challenge erroneously?
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★

    SuelGames said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
    Everyone knows the consequences of stealing.

    Why should everyone know that switching champs was clearly an exploit? If the guy used the right team and got the rewards, he could very well think it was ok. Remember this game is for all ages, why should a child playing this be penalized for the absence of malice in this behavior?
    I don't believe anyone is implying these people would get banned for it. I can't speak for them, but this isn't particularly egregious. However, it would be reasonable if they decided to take back the Rewards. What argument do you have for people completing a challenge erroneously?
    let me speak on this since i was the one who originally started the whole thing. i saw the act 6 carina challenges were back up, so i figured i'd do my trial run to see how well joe fixit would do. wanted to simulate it to the best of my abilities to the actual run, so i switched out herc at the end for who i'd actually be using. i figured that if i got the solo and it gave me the rewards, i would either file a ticket or write a forum post so that i wouldn't be penalized for any sort of exploit, considering it was unintentional. if i didn't get the rewards, great, now i know how to beat medusa and i'm ready for my actual run. it is completely reasonable and the best solution for the rewards to be taken away from my account, and the challenge be put back into my account section. anything more than that would be too much
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★

    SuelGames said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
    Everyone knows the consequences of stealing.

    Why should everyone know that switching champs was clearly an exploit? If the guy used the right team and got the rewards, he could very well think it was ok. Remember this game is for all ages, why should a child playing this be penalized for the absence of malice in this behavior?
    I don't believe anyone is implying these people would get banned for it. I can't speak for them, but this isn't particularly egregious. However, it would be reasonable if they decided to take back the Rewards. What argument do you have for people completing a challenge erroneously?
    No my friend, u got it wrong. I didnt use this "exploit" and im not against taking the rewards back (i do believe they should refund resourses used if they do take the rewards)

    My point is what was brought it up on the previous page about banning players who did this. Like i said there are kids who play this and i dont think that was CLEAR mistake made by kabam that 100% of players should notice, im mean they removed it for 2 months ffs!

    I also said that i faced many hackers in battlegrounds and war season, and the tickets i opened resulted in nothing, so im sorry if im not gonna defende the company that doesnt defend me.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    SuelGames said:

    SuelGames said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    ItsDamien said:

    SuelGames said:

    Foster04 said:

    "unsurprisingly, not intended"
    You took the challenges down for nearly 2 months, and didn't fix probably the most obvious "exploit" that was going to come from it. Why would anybody who doesn't check forums or other social media assume that this wasn't intended?

    Agree, how is it an exploit when its exclusively THEIR fault? Like you said, ive been waiting 2 MONTHS to do some challenges, ranked stupid champs like Ms Marvel, Joe Fixit and Squirrel Girl for em.. and now they do this.. seriouslly this is ultrageous. Not to mention they only learned about this cause of this good samaritan that came here on the foruns to warn kabam. I know most ppl will desagree with this, but if they take down objectives that give excelent rewards for like 3 months, there should be at least some compensation, im 7k A3 shards away from my first R4
    It being their fault doesn't make it not an exploit
    The fact that people will disagree with this is the most painful part 😬
    I will forever disagree with this. I dont use hacks, in fact i had to report several hackers in battlegrounds that costed me energy and ranking positions, and did i get compensated for any of those? NO!

    We re already penalized by the amount of ppl using hacks and mods, why should we also be penalized when their own dev team screw up? These so called "exploiters" are just playing the game the way they designed, not their fault if the design was dumb
    And this is why you’re not a game designer. Because you don’t understand what an exploit is using an unintended method to do something. The challenges aren’t supposed to be completed with the character swap out. Being able to use that and get the completion of the challenges is the exploit, and that’s what they were originally changing.

    So yeah, don’t throw dumb stones inside of a dumb greenhouse.
    i dont care bro, they had 2 months to fix that, if they didnt, its on them.

    i mess up on my job, i get reprehended. They mess up, and we get reprehended? wtf is this
    You still don’t understand. This is exactly why you’re not a game developer, and the world is very thankful for it.
    Looks like u are and u took it personally XD

    Im a lawyer so its my job to protect my clients (players) XDD
    Okay then, so let's look at this from a legal standpoint.
    If a bank makes the mistake of forgetting to lock the doors and set the alarm, and people choose to enter it and steal the money, are the people still responsible for theft?
    Everyone knows the consequences of stealing.

    Why should everyone know that switching champs was clearly an exploit? If the guy used the right team and got the rewards, he could very well think it was ok. Remember this game is for all ages, why should a child playing this be penalized for the absence of malice in this behavior?
    I don't believe anyone is implying these people would get banned for it. I can't speak for them, but this isn't particularly egregious. However, it would be reasonable if they decided to take back the Rewards. What argument do you have for people completing a challenge erroneously?
    No my friend, u got it wrong. I didnt use this "exploit" and im not against taking the rewards back (i do believe they should refund resourses used if they do take the rewards)

    My point is what was brought it up on the previous page about banning players who did this. Like i said there are kids who play this and i dont think that was CLEAR mistake made by kabam that 100% of players should notice, im mean they removed it for 2 months ffs!

    I also said that i faced many hackers in battlegrounds and war season, and the tickets i opened resulted in nothing, so im sorry if im not gonna defende the company that doesnt defend me.
    This is one of those grey area situations in my opinion. It's quite difficult to distinguish Players who knowingly did so, and who just did it out of making game decisions. Had it been something that was a blatant use of unintended glitches, I would feel differently. I'm not saying I support people taking advantage of anything. Just that it's mirky.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,202 ★★★★★

  • Kabam JaxKabam Jax Member, Moderator Posts: 1,718 ★★★★★
    Alright, let's circle this thread back to focus on the topic, not each other, please.

    To clarify: ZERO people will be banned from this. Banning is not a course of action that will be considered because, yes, the error was on our side. So, remove that specific log from the fire in this thread.

    The challenges should be up and running again soon and we'll know more about it then.
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    Kabam Jax said:

    Alright, let's circle this thread back to focus on the topic, not each other, please.

    To clarify: ZERO people will be banned from this. Banning is not a course of action that will be considered because, yes, the error was on our side. So, remove that specific log from the fire in this thread.

    The challenges should be up and running again soon and we'll know more about it then.

    great, thanks for the update about that. any update on if the rewards will automatically be taken out of the accounts of those who did the challenge with the exploit? should those people wait to use those resources?
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,902 ★★★★★

    Kabam Jax said:

    Alright, let's circle this thread back to focus on the topic, not each other, please.

    To clarify: ZERO people will be banned from this. Banning is not a course of action that will be considered because, yes, the error was on our side. So, remove that specific log from the fire in this thread.

    The challenges should be up and running again soon and we'll know more about it then.

    great, thanks for the update about that. any update on if the rewards will automatically be taken out of the accounts of those who did the challenge with the exploit? should those people wait to use those resources?
    Probably good ide to hold of
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