What do you think? Alliance war [Matching Algorithm] is it working fine?

PeperinoPomoroPeperinoPomoro Member Posts: 11 ★
in Bugs and Known Issues
I don't think so and that's why I'm creating this poll, the matching algo is not correctly organising in a fair comparison the alliance that are fighting. Even though the algorithm takes and enormous 3 hour time to match fights, it's quite out of range, or uncalibrated.

In my experience, even now that I'm currently working on AI as a QA (and it's been 16 years working on QA), there are thresholds for "acceptable" and "unnacceptable" results and, in my opinion, it's entirely incorrect.
We are not talking about a simple 15-20% difference between both alliances, we are talking about more than 200%.

Let me show you why:



We are talking about:
  • 108% more Alliance Prestige
  • the insane 1,151% more Alliance Rating
  • 265% Avg Member Rating
  • and last but not least 242% more members.
Yes, the only value that matches a "fair" pair, it's the war rating, but nothing more, I've seen lot's of this issues, matching a war rating has nothing to do with a "fair" war. I'm not picking the alliance, I'm not finding the alliance in a forest in an RPG game, a failed matching algorithm is doing it for me, and the shame of the other alliances playing and exploring the 100%, it's shameful, you also can see the miseries of the people, but that is another talk.

Have a great one,

Pep

What do you think? Alliance war [Matching Algorithm] is it working fine? 19 votes

I think matching algorithm is not working well
36% 7 votes
I think matching algo is just fine
63% 12 votes

Comments

  • Ken1378Ken1378 Member Posts: 279 ★★★
    War rating is exactly how you match a “fair” war. It’s literally the rating for how well alliances do in war. Success in war is determined by a lot of different factors. The ones you listed are only a small part what makes alliances successful in war. War rating includes them AND all the other factors as well.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    Having only war rating matter is exactly what makes matching fair..
  • PeperinoPomoroPeperinoPomoro Member Posts: 11 ★
    There we have another example of your 'fair' alliance war rating, and how I disagree about the matching algo.

    I hope this is easy to read, it's an Alliance, just a small 21 Million against and alliance of 3M.
    So a simple 493% stronger alliance

    I hope if one of you is part of the alliance against mine, you enjoy your 6* champions against 3* champions and you feel powerful against an alliance that cannot beat you and not even can be compared.


  • PeperinoPomoroPeperinoPomoro Member Posts: 11 ★
    Here we go again a sweet 531.26% difference between my alliance and the current rival, beauty beauty!



    I still don't understand how can someone disagree that is not fair, a 21 million against a 3.6 million... But anyway...
    Oh and I have the snapshot of the real thing maybe you think I'm inventing those numbers




    Thank you all the people involved in voting!
  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    The only time that War Rating fails is exactly in the case you've brought up. The Alliance your facing has only been active for 3 weeks. It unfortunately takes longer than that to have an accurate War Rating. Don't quote me on this, but I think Alliances have a boost to their War Rating for either a specific number of Wars or time after the Alliance is created so that they can quickly increase the War Rating to get where it should be quicker.

    I have a suggestion although it may cause more problems than it solves but that would be to tie War Rating to individual accounts so alliances have a War Rating that works more like prestige. This would also be effective in combating Shell Alliances which would be a plus but I haven't put enough thought into the consequences of having it work this way.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited September 2022
    PeperinoPomoro said:

    I don't think so and that's why I'm creating this poll, the matching algo is not correctly organising in a fair comparison the alliance that are fighting. Even though the algorithm takes and enormous 3 hour time to match fights, it's quite out of range, or uncalibrated.

    In my experience, even now that I'm currently working on AI as a QA (and it's been 16 years working on QA), there are thresholds for "acceptable" and "unnacceptable" results and, in my opinion, it's entirely incorrect.
    We are not talking about a simple 15-20% difference between both alliances, we are talking about more than 200%.

    Let me show you why:



    We are talking about:

    • 108% more Alliance Prestige
    • the insane 1,151% more Alliance Rating
    • 265% Avg Member Rating
    • and last but not least 242% more members.
    Yes, the only value that matches a "fair" pair, it's the war rating, but nothing more, I've seen lot's of this issues, matching a war rating has nothing to do with a "fair" war. I'm not picking the alliance, I'm not finding the alliance in a forest in an RPG game, a failed matching algorithm is doing it for me, and the shame of the other alliances playing and exploring the 100%, it's shameful, you also can see the miseries of the people, but that is another talk.

    Have a great one,

    Pep
    Er... Are u really comparing the rating of a 7 member alliance vs a 17 member one?

    Also if u have 7 members.. u probably play 1 bg... Then why does the total rating matter if u can only count 10 out of those 17...
    My point is.. U cant nit pick a game mode when u dont meet the minimum requirements...
    If u were comparing 3 bg 30vs30 is one thing...
    And if the matching system is so important for u.. i would suggest moving onto an alliance that actually does war in a competitive way.. and i dont mean momey, champs, resources.. i mean at least a 10vs10
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,687 ★★★★★
    The fact that between your first picture and third, you went from zero war rating to 730, tells me you're fight ally's that don't care.

    It's more telling to show us your win/loss history. You're new to war it seems so you still have a lot to learn in terms of what matters.
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