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Neutralize change.

Chief_wind_in_pants1Chief_wind_in_pants1 Posts: 11 ★
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Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

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    Total_Domin01Total_Domin01 Posts: 1,015 ★★★★
    Chief_wind_in_pants1 said:

    Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

    I am confused, you say that it should be applied, but the effect canceled out due to the immunity? How does that change anything?

    Also, keep in mind how few champions actually have an AAR immunity
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 749 ★★★
    Any bets on AAR being a big part of the next few months
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    AyrusSethAyrusSeth Posts: 79 ★
    edited September 2022
    Crimson8399 said:

    Any bets on AAR being a big part of the next few months

    We will get to know ABT it tonight, EOP Dragonman might have 'Force of will' node on him..
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    BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    Chief_wind_in_pants1 said:

    Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

    If a champion is bleed immune does the bleed apply but the effect is cancelled out by bleed immunity?
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    Sean_WhoSean_Who Posts: 618 ★★★
    edited September 2022
    BitterSteel said:

    Chief_wind_in_pants1 said:

    Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

    If a champion is bleed immune does the bleed apply but the effect is cancelled out by bleed immunity?
    It doesn't say they're immune to neutralize, it says they're immune to AAR – an affect of having neutralize on them.

    Arguing that bleed is an affect of having a bleed on them, imo doesn't hold weight but we're talking semantics here.

    Spaghetti code causing them to manually apply every AAR debuff to the immunities list instead of working in actual Ability Accuracy is causing this interaction imo.
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    BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    Sean_Who said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Chief_wind_in_pants1 said:

    Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

    If a champion is bleed immune does the bleed apply but the effect is cancelled out by bleed immunity?
    It doesn't say they're immune to neutralize, it says they're immune to AAR – an affect of having neutralize on them.

    Arguing that bleed is an affect of having a bleed on them, imo doesn't hold weight but we're talking semantics here.

    Spaghetti code causing them to manually apply every AAR debuff to the immunities list instead of working in actual Ability Accuracy is causing this interaction imo.
    Neutralise is AAR. That is all it is. It’s AAR that only works on buffs, but AAR nonetheless.

    This isn’t semantics.
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    TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    You can’t apply concussions to AA immune champs, so why would you be able to apply neutralize?
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    FunnyDudeFunnyDude Posts: 459 ★★★
    Exactly, @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit any comment?
    AyrusSeth said:

    Total_Domin01 said:

    Chief_wind_in_pants1 said:

    Neutralize not being able to be applied if the champ is AA immune is not correct. Neutralize should be applied but the effect should be canceled out by AA reduction. This severely effects Tigra, Rintrah and Wiccan. Please fix.

    I am confused, you say that it should be applied, but the effect canceled out due to the immunity? How does that change anything?

    Also, keep in mind how few champions actually have an AAR immunity
    Both primal and huntress sense duration are paused if defender has neutralize passive active. Her entire kit works around neutralize, so it changes a lot.
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