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Kabam please do something about these stupid node combos🙏

Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
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@Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax
this is sector 9 zone 21
It is hard as is to get to later zones without using revives and units. And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do , no matter how many units you use you cannot get through!
Please try these node combos yourself before adding them in the mode!

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  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    Colinwhitworth69 said:

    My understanding is that the nodes are generated randomly.

    I stopped doing Incursions after the revamp.

    Even before the revamp the some node sets used to be BS. incursions is really fun but when impossible(possible for a specific champs) node sets appear that really ticks me off.

    Yea i think so too that they are generated randomly but kabam should create a code or something so as to prevent such node combos.
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
    And if you switched a champ and in the next zone you need the previous champ back then? And if you don’t have the particular champ then?
    There are plenty of problems
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    @BitterSteel i agree with everything you just wrote and i know its a very difficult almost impossible task to take on but there must be some way a summoner can stop hitting the dead end after investing time and resources.
    Some summoners previously suggested a modok dice kind of thing.
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    Colinwhitworth69 said:

    My understanding is that the nodes are generated randomly.

    I stopped doing Incursions after the revamp.

    I have found many nodes that in some way or other interact with the defender's ability set, implying that it is definitely not completely random
    It's possible that a proportion of nodes on a defender are random & others are intentional....but it's definitely not a 100% random
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 2,019 ★★★★★
    Read the boss node before starting the path.
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    Gogeta91199 said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
    And if you switched a champ and in the next zone you need the previous champ back then? And if you don’t have the particular champ then?
    There are plenty of problems
    Well it's not supposed to be easy. You must have a deep roster with numerous counters for each node.
    It sounds to me that you want only the rewards with a few simple fights.
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
    And if you switched a champ and in the next zone you need the previous champ back then? And if you don’t have the particular champ then?
    There are plenty of problems
    Well it's not supposed to be easy. You must have a deep roster with numerous counters for each node.
    It sounds to me that you want only the rewards with a few simple fights.
    You call sector 9 zone 21 a few simple fights? Ofcourse it’s not supposed to be easy but its not supposed to be impossible. And do you really think it’s possible to have counters for every node? Once you change a champ you cannot bring him back… and there goes your counter for every node. I used some 700-800 units to get to this zone and a lot of long fights and also switched champs in between…
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  • SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,661 ★★★★★
    Gogeta91199 said:



    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
    And if you switched a champ and in the next zone you need the previous champ back then? And if you don’t have the particular champ then?
    There are plenty of problems
    Well it's not supposed to be easy. You must have a deep roster with numerous counters for each node.
    It sounds to me that you want only the rewards with a few simple fights.
    You call sector 9 zone 21 a few simple fights? Ofcourse it’s not supposed to be easy but its not supposed to be impossible. And do you really think it’s possible to have counters for every node? Once you change a champ you cannot bring him back… and there goes your counter for every node. I used some 700-800 units to get to this zone and a lot of long fights and also switched champs in between…
    It’s not impossible, the whole point of increasing amounts of node combinations in later rooms is to make very specific fights that are either very difficult or require specific champs. You always have the option to view the nodes and then swap champs, and if you’re really trying to spend a lot of units to get to later rooms, you should be allowing all of your useful champs to be available for this scenario specifically. Or have 5&6* versions of the same champ for possibly having to switch out one then needing them again.

    Also, not every aspect of the game is meant for every summoner. This is similar to some of the Carina’s challenges. It is extremely difficult and really unnecessary to find a perfect scenario that every summoner has an equal likelihood to succeed at with no caveats.

    Node combo sucks, but it’s also possible that you might be at a lower level of difficulty/roster progression than who they targeted this content towards. It’s supposed to really only be for the extremely top-end of the top of the summoner player base.
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    @Squirrelguy I’m paragon with just abyss and lol initially cleared rest all contents 100%. some fair points there… but again even big developed rosters use units to get through and most of there teams include max sig herc and thing and a heimdall. I don’t have either of the champs and i have tried numerous combinations of champs, mostly played with a mate to divide the burden( it has its pros and cons) this is the first time i have played sector 9 solo( have played the lower difficulties solo) and reached a room this high , started using units from zone 12, ramped up aegon clear alot of rooms with ease but there are node combos which even he can’t do and you need specific counters and in my journey to room 21 i switched some 7-8 champs to fit weird node combos. When i reached this room, the champ who could’ve taken the boss fight was switched earlier because a different champ was needed and then you can’t bring that champ back again. The team at this room was aegon , heimdall and omega sentinel. I thought OS can take it but sadly she applies plasma to mutants and she couldn’t take the fight either, I could’ve thrown alot of units and do 20s fight and quit but again you can see aspect of nightmares and lifecycle are 2 pretty BS nodes that wouldn’t allow me to do that unless i heal the champ halfway again and again… rest you understand as well as i do it’s frustrating after spending time and resources
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    Gogeta91199 said:



    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Gogeta91199 said:

    And after using so many of them, and then you get a node combo that needs a specific counter what is one supposed to do

    That's why they give us the option to change Champions when a new room starts. I see no problem here
    And if you switched a champ and in the next zone you need the previous champ back then? And if you don’t have the particular champ then?
    There are plenty of problems
    Well it's not supposed to be easy. You must have a deep roster with numerous counters for each node.
    It sounds to me that you want only the rewards with a few simple fights.
    And do you really think it’s possible to have counters for every node?
    Yes it is. There are a lot of counters for the nodes you showed. You only need a shock champion or a passive heal block champion. The rest of the nodes should be irrelevant.
    Getting to zone 25 isn't supposed to be easy
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  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    edited November 2022
    Im not a game designer, but i said something similar in an other thread.

    This is bs man, there should be a safeguard preventing some node combination that makes the opponent literally unkillable, but i doubt this could happen, cause just f.. us right? Have some RNG and GL. Less work and more resourses spent for Kabam
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