Do you think the ban wave was accurate and caught most of the modders?!

TheKiryu · December 2022

So evidently out of top 350 players in battlegrounds season 4, only 28 bans were issued, about 18 of them in top 100.

Does anyone believe that we had less than 30 people cheating in top 350?!

I myself matched more than that in last week of bgs…

More info in video how we can see the amount of bans as players do a snapshot of placements 5 minutes before bgs go down and compare to rank when rewards are issues. So we know for a fact that player who placed in 350th ended up in 322nd when modders where allegedly removed.

Kabam Sends Out Rewards To Cheaters! Absolute Fail To Clean Up The Leaderboard!

https://youtu.be/P-v9q5KbjbU

TheBair123 · December 2022

don't understand what they're doing in the buffer between the end of the season and the rewards payout. have someone (or multiple people for that matter) go through each and every account at the top, and there should be no room for error

CoatHang3r · December 2022

This guy expecting perfection.

But hey thanks for encouraging people to take a chance and mod because some will slip through the cracks and you will constantly remind the community about it.

TheKiryu · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:
This guy expecting perfection.

But hey thanks for encouraging people to take a chance and mod because some will slip through the cracks and you will constantly remind the community about it.

1 - no one expects perfection from kabam. Mediocrity would be vast improvement.
2 - i do not at any point encourage anyone to mod, that is a flat out lie.

KDoggg2017 · December 2022

The Top 100 needs to be squeaky clean at least, imo.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

TheKiryu said:

CoatHang3r said:
This guy expecting perfection.

But hey thanks for encouraging people to take a chance and mod because some will slip through the cracks and you will constantly remind the community about it.
1 - no one expects perfection from kabam. Mediocrity would be vast improvement.
2 - i do not at any point encourage anyone to mod, that is a flat out lie.

Yet here you are publicly saying there are gaps exist and they are inexcusable. They both presuppose that perfection is expected and inform people that there is a possibility they can get away with it.

Thank you for your continued rage baiting.

TheKiryu · December 2022

There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 · December 2022

Umm isn't kabam at fault if it can be exploited? Not getting your logic.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!

There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and circumstances at play here but the one I would like to point out is Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

TheKiryu · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!
There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and cisrcumstwnces at play here but the one I would like to point out Ais Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

Doesnt this count as some sort of personal attack or something? Would love for a moderator to take a look at that. Quite sure it should not be allowed here. For shame! For shame.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

Ciedre said:

CoatHang3r said:
This guy expecting perfection.

But hey thanks for encouraging people to take a chance and mod because some will slip through the cracks and you will constantly remind the community about it.
So you're saying the best way to deal with a problem is to never talk about it?
Amazing logic right there.

Talking about it isn’t going to solve it and only serves to exacerbate the problem so yeah it’s best if people are not encouraged to do it.

Elthan · December 2022

I wonder why some blatant cheaters have been able to do so since the battlegrounds beta and have never been caught, even though they were subject to reports every season

CoatHang3r · December 2022

TheKiryu said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!
There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and cisrcumstwnces at play here but the one I would like to point out Ais Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”
Doesnt this count as some sort of personal attack or something? Would love for a moderator to take a look at that. Quite sure it should not be allowed here. For shame! For shame.

Spare me the concern trolling. You’re on record in your own words talking about how you cheated and broke the ToS playing for other people.

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 · December 2022

Let's just keep not talking about problems until problems go away. Amazing proven moto

TheKiryu · December 2022

Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.

TheLightBringer · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!
There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and cisrcumstwnces at play here but the one I would like to point out Ais Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”
Doesnt this count as some sort of personal attack or something? Would love for a moderator to take a look at that. Quite sure it should not be allowed here. For shame! For shame.
Spare me the concern trolling. You’re on record in your own words talking about how you cheated and broke the ToS playing for other people.

So let's leave the main current issue that is happening right now, and focus on smth totally irrelevant to the subject and happened like 4 years ago lmao

CoatHang3r · December 2022

Qlirimi said:
You're literally making no sense CoatHang3r. By your logic your're saying we should leave modders alone and not encourage Kabam taking take of this known issue sooner... Also what you're saying here is totall BS it's straight up an Assault to KT1. Sure he's made a mistake but he had the balls to make it public and apologise for it. It's not like you're perfect and never done any mistakes we all do we're humans after all. So you bringing this topic outta nowhere its just a **** thing to do and you should be ashamed of yourself.

I’m saying that informing the community that gaps exist isn’t going to solve the problem. Kabam most certainly wants to do something about it or they would not have specifically hired to help combat it. What you extrapolate that into is your own doing and would be described as putting words in my mouth. So people are allowed to make mistakes and be forgiven for them? Good to know, but I can guarantee you KT is not extending that to either party himself.

SandeepS · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!
There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and circumstances at play here but the one I would like to point out is Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

There are many innocent people suffering because modders are taking their place in ranked rewards and also losing matches during the season.

Darkraw346 · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
There is a middle ground between perfection and utter failure.

Players who have been reported by 40+ different people through several means still receiving rank rewards would constitute the latter.

Also - You are welcome!
There certainly is a middle ground but you would be the last in line to define it.

There are many factors and circumstances at play here but the one I would like to point out is Blackstone’s ratio (you have certainly benefited from it or you would’ve been banned yourself). “ It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

U talking about ratio?
How about I ratio you?
Ratio

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 · December 2022

That is your speculation unless you work directly for kabam. You do not know what they actually doing.

What KT1 brought up in this thread (not your unneeded/unrelated material) is based on facts.

From the facts it appears they are not doing a good job either out of negligence, incompetence and/or (insert 3rd option).

Searmenis · December 2022

Back to the subject, that is not KT1 s past, present and future, I m willing to give Kabam the benefit of the doubt here, only because this new supposed to be in the works system of new employees to identify cheaters is still new. Since I don't know how they work, and on top of that, Kabam made clear that they re after the whole picture, meaning trying not to patch the modders problem but to kinda solve it, we may not have seen tha ban wave we were expecting, but maybe, this is for a better future.

Cheaters aside though, in my opinion kabam should focus first of all to make matchmaking better, so everyone in every tier and level can enjoy the game mode. Cheaters may be a big concern and affect end game players, but that's the 1% of the player base. The rest 99% must be a priority.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.

I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.

zuffy · December 2022

The hate for someone is so petty to call them out for something that has nothing to do with the topic.

World Eater · December 2022

Not sure why anyone is surprised by this. Every since BGs were launched to the public, it's been painfully obvious that Kabam doesn't have the resources or capability to stop the ongoing cheating .... or they just don't care enough. A 1 week ban!?? Whooopie. They obviously don't even monitor the Abyss anymore either. I also hate that the leaderboards are removed once the season is finished. As fun as the game mode can be, it's a mess.

FiiNCH · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.
I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.

What has any of this got to do with the point KT1 is raising in this thread. Stop derailing it, because it’s absolutely a valid point he’s making, and one that we, as consumers/customers are well within our right to keep pushing.

TheKiryu · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.
I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.

Sorry you feel like personal attacks on me have anything to do with current topic at hand. Or that forum TOS allows that. It is quite unpleasant to be faced with such hostility on official kabam forums.

I hope kabam is not the sort of company that will idly stand by and allow that.

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 · December 2022

This is probably his way to derail the topic or he's got a personal vendetta.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

TheKiryu said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.
I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.
Sorry you feel like personal attacks on me have anything to do with current topic at hand. Or that forum TOS allows that. It is quite unpleasant to be faced with such hostility on official kabam forums.

I hope kabam is not the sort of company that will idly stand by and allow that.

It is relevant because you yourself have benefited from Kabam’s policy on cheaters which you now decry. There was no personal attack, it’s common knowledge and you even have a video admitting to it on your channel. That victim card, lawl.

CoatHang3r · December 2022

FiiNCH said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.
I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.
What has any of this got to do with the point KT1 is raising in this thread. Stop derailing it, because it’s absolutely a valid point he’s making, and one that we, as consumers/customers are well within our right to keep pushing.

Ask KT what it has to do with it, it was a little blurb in a comment used to show juxtaposition and KT blew it up and made it a topic.

I don’t think it’s right at all to give comfort to the modders by giving them the statistics showing them they have the possibility to get away with it.

FiiNCH · December 2022

CoatHang3r said:

FiiNCH said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheKiryu said:
Me and my personal circumstances were never part of the topic in this thread.

Since it does not appear that you are a forum moderator , or an employee of kabam , you cant posses any first hand knowledge of any possible indiscretions i may or may not have committed many years in past , nor whether or how i have been punished for it.

Therefore i do believe this absolutely should count as a personal attack and is against the forum rules.

You are making me feel unwelcome on this forum.
I most certainly possess knowledge, first hand knowledge from you yourself, of your past cheating in MCOC as I was present on the streams you were bragging about it at the time.

Sorry you feel that way, but it’s also convenient for you to play the victim card instead of addressing it when confronted. Side stepped.
What has any of this got to do with the point KT1 is raising in this thread. Stop derailing it, because it’s absolutely a valid point he’s making, and one that we, as consumers/customers are well within our right to keep pushing.
Ask KT what it has to do with it, it was a little blurb in a comment used to show juxtaposition and KT blew it up and made it a topic.

I don’t think it’s right at all to give comfort to the modders by giving them the statistics showing them they have the possibility to get away with it.

Yeah let’s brush it under the carpet and hope they just don’t notice then. Smh.

Do you think the ban wave was accurate and caught most of the modders?!

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