Joe fixit SP1

Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
I used to be able to dex last few bullets of joe fixit's sp1 but now when I try to dex his sp1's last few bullets I get hit all the time. Do I really misremember dexing his sp1 like cable's sp1? or is something else going on here?

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  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    I could never dex his sp1 ☹️
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★

    I mean Cable’s got nerfed so you can’t dex it anymore

    still a stupid change imo, but nothing of the sort had happened to Joe.

    You can still dex out of cable's sp1, before the change you could dex out waay earlier, after the change you can still dex out but very close to the end of his bullets and this was the case against joe fixit for me. I could always dex out of his last 1-2 bullets and punish him with a medium but now I can't dex out of it, I just get hit if I try to.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    edited December 2022

    Yeah I was playing against him in Cav EQ yesterday and got clipped twice. I just assumed it was me dexing earlier but seems I'm not the only one

    Well this is good to hear so this must be somekind of a really messed up bug. Can you guys take a look at this issue @Kabam Miike @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Zibiit
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    Ok so it's an actual issue
    Here I was getting confused while fighting that Joe in Cav difficulty & thinking wtf am I doing wrong
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    My guess is that this is the same thing affecting Hood’s invisibility and what’s fixed Dragon Man’s unstoppable bug.

    Seems like the alteration to the dexing/dashing back has changed a few more things than expected.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    Also omega sentinel acting all crazy too. When you dex or parry she suddenly looses all of her armor ups and puts and incinerate debuff on the opponent which shouldn't happen when you dex or parry. What a crazy way to end the year with whole ton of new bugs.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    AMS94 said:

    Ok so it's an actual issue
    Here I was getting confused while fighting that Joe in Cav difficulty & thinking wtf am I doing wrong

    You really need to check this out kabam team. There is a lot of bugs going on with champions when dex or parry. You can't dex some specials anymore. If this was intended a little heads up would've been nice.
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★
    I’m noticing it as well, I can’t dex the final couple of hits of his SP1, which I could do before the update. Makes fighting him more annoying since that block damage adds up quick.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    Sooo It's been 10 days, omega sentinel still broke, joe fixit sp1 last hits still undexable, hood got screwed and said he is working as "intended" now. Still no acknowledgement from the team about joe fixit undexable sp1 and omega sentinel being broke. I checked and they are not even on that "MCOC: Community Bugs and Issues Tracker" thing. This must be a bug unless OS and joe fixit sp1 working as "intended" now.

    Dexing is broke, parrying sometimes still doesn't work and we all kinda accepted these input issues. Because it's been more than a year so the team can't do their job on this subject but at least stop adding more bugs that breaks characters on defense or offense.

    As muscle memory I still try to dex last few hits on joe fixit's sp1. This bug cost me some BG matches. People who are aware of this bug using it as an exploit to peoples muscle memory for weeks since the last update he got broke. With the last weeks power gain on block in BG, joe fixit's sp1 was a great way to gain power. He was already a good defender for this week, with the bug it basically is that you loose a lot of health if you try to dex and since you can't dex, it's almost an instant sp3 or very close to sp3 after a single sp1. You get punished for trying to play the game same as the last 8 years.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    They fixed OS but Joe fixit sp1 still broken and undexable. Are they not going to do anything about it ?? Being able to dex the last hits and punish is still broken and he hits you if you try to dex the last hits.
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    edited January 2023

    I could never dex his sp1 ☹️

    Thats me...

    P99 both specials
    Punisher both specials
    Fixit sp1
    Cable sp1

    cant dex any of those lol i can only dex Hitmonkey s

    dont remember any more bullets special atm
  • Canyon7Canyon7 Member Posts: 10
    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra a someone please comment on this thread? Agent venom falcon and Joe fixit all are functioning differently than they were before. Was there an announcement about this somewhere?
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    Canyon7 said:

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra a someone please comment on this thread? Agent venom falcon and Joe fixit all are functioning differently than they were before. Was there an announcement about this somewhere?

    How are they functioning different?
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★
    edited February 2023

    Canyon7 said:

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra a someone please comment on this thread? Agent venom falcon and Joe fixit all are functioning differently than they were before. Was there an announcement about this somewhere?

    How are they functioning different?
    You can’t dex the final couple of bullets like you used to be able to. If you try to dex at the end of the special, your champ will just let their block down and get hit
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    Well if that is the case I hope it’s an accident. I hate going against a non broken joe fixit as is
  • Canyon7Canyon7 Member Posts: 10
    It’s also agent venom, falcon and war machine.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,993 ★★★★★
    Its the same way when they changed cables sp1. Used to be you could block first portion and dex out at the end. Not anymore.
  • Canyon7Canyon7 Member Posts: 10
    That was along time ago that they did that with cable. Still don’t understand why they would change this. I didn’t understand why they didn’t with cable either.
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★
    Canyon7 said:

    That was along time ago that they did that with cable. Still don’t understand why they would change this. I didn’t understand why they didn’t with cable either.

    It happened at the same time as the dragon man nerf, some people assumed they made changes to hit boxes to stop him from regenerating while dexing. This change might have affected dexing those specials. This was never confirmed though.
  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    edited February 2023
    I've never been able to dex Joe's sp1, sooo...
    I think this is part of Kabam new shady moves and tweaks to champs and AI< possibly trying to get players to spend more time and money in the game
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  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★

    I've never been able to dex Joe's sp1, sooo...

    I think this is part of Kabam new shady moves and tweaks to champs and AI< possibly trying to get players to spend more time and money in the game
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    You were never able to dex the whole special (except with special champs like nightcrawler), you could dex the final few bullets of his and agent venom, falcon, and war machines SP1. The issue is that’s not possible now. I just tested it and I’m getting stuck in the block animation when I try to dex
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  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    Canyon7 said:

    That was along time ago that they did that with cable. Still don’t understand why they would change this. I didn’t understand why they didn’t with cable either.

    The change with Cable was different than this. The hit box of his bullets didn't reach the end of the screen (think Air Walker SP2 or Diablo SP2) which in fairness was not consistent with the animation. If you were at the far left of the screen you just wouldn't get hit at all and didn't even need to dex or block.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    K00shMaan said:

    Canyon7 said:

    That was along time ago that they did that with cable. Still don’t understand why they would change this. I didn’t understand why they didn’t with cable either.

    The change with Cable was different than this. The hit box of his bullets didn't reach the end of the screen (think Air Walker SP2 or Diablo SP2) which in fairness was not consistent with the animation. If you were at the far left of the screen you just wouldn't get hit at all and didn't even need to dex or block.
    Yes exactly this for cable and also for the people that are still saying this happened to cable before; You can still dex out of cable's sp1's last bullets.

    BTW guys I made this post in december and it has been 2 months now and still not even an acknowledgement about this change. They broke those characters in december update and stayed silence. I didn't even realize that war machine and agent venom also got affected as others saying right now. I only noticed this change in joe fixit.

    Maybe some youtubers can be able to make our voice heard. @RichTheMan sorry to tag you but kabam is silence for the past 2 months. This bug or change, if a bug still not even on the trello, is just ignored and messing with our muscle memory. Kabam needs to take a look into this. Also I'm from Turkey and in your last videos you mentioned the earthquake, thank you for your kind words.
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    For those who are wondering how it was working or saying they could never do it, here is an abyss video from MetalSonicDude's channel.

    Watch at 45:15 - 45:18 to see how it was working before DECEMBER and try to do it with your joe fixit by practicing. They broke him and still they are silent!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EX7xbwRRM&amp;ab_channel=MetalSonicDude
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    Watch 45:27 - 45:35 for a better example
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