Cheaters still Win

It seems hardly unfair that all of the players who were modding in arena can use all of those units in other places as well and still get to reap the rewards. For example, all of the individuals who were not permanently banned (though they all should have been), still have their spots in the Gladiator Circuit. TCN and Ny718 will surely still place number 1 & 2 in the Battlegrounds Alliance Event. Despite the fact the units they used to achieve this were acquired by deliberately breaking the terms of service.

Should they not at least at the bare minimum be stripped of the points and ranking they falsely and unfairly have this season?

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  • Mxfjosa_BG_StomperMxfjosa_BG_Stomper Member Posts: 2
    Harshly unfair*
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★

    It seems hardly unfair that all of the players who were modding in arena can use all of those units in other places as well and still get to reap the rewards. For example, all of the individuals who were not permanently banned (though they all should have been), still have their spots in the Gladiator Circuit. TCN and Ny718 will surely still place number 1 & 2 in the Battlegrounds Alliance Event. Despite the fact the units they used to achieve this were acquired by deliberately breaking the terms of service.

    Should they not at least at the bare minimum be stripped of the points and ranking they falsely and unfairly have this season?

    I would appreciate if they did.
    I dont expect them to do it.
  • ScottCHarbach1ScottCHarbach1 Member Posts: 41
    BGBAR is best! Justice for BGBAR!!!
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,641 ★★★★★
    But I thought the saying was cheaters never prosper, not cheaters still win.
  • GogiGogi Member Posts: 478 ★★★
    Why don't you try yourself and see if your statement is true? Will you get back with rewards or not.
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra

    Kabam, you’re literally showing us, if there is anything we’d like to do in game (boost our score up in the GC, complete EOP, Abyss Etc.) whatever it may be, all we have to do is mod. Sure we won’t be able to play the game for 7 days, but, when we come back, we’ll get to come back to all those goodies we cheated for.

    Where are they showing this exactly?
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    edited June 2023
    Of course. They win every game mode because they have been cheating for years. Even a 2 year old could come to this conclusion.

    I get to GC with 6r2 in my deck every season but when you run into some of these accounts (as I do in Diamond and above), you really get to see how vast the gap is. This applies to arena where they can use those massive rosters to grind out new champs (even without cheating), having tougher war defenders/attackers, having tons of units to trivialize game content, getting all the milestones in the 7* event, etc.

    Clownius Clown had an excellent take on the issue:

    https://youtu.be/gHYYKY2-AZc
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,550 ★★★★★
    edited June 2023
    The arena cheaters should be stripped of all units. Put in unit jail, and least $1000 worth of crates to get out of the red, which is extremely generous as some of them have easily stolen $100,000 worth of units over the years. All feature champs obtained in the arena since the format changed a few years ago should be removed. That doesn't even address them cheating in war and battle grounds. It's a joke that a week ban and removing 2 champs is even a small deterent. They will all be back putting up 350 million for Dani tomorrow.
  • ChiliDogChiliDog Member Posts: 899 ★★★

    Of course. They win every game mode because they have been cheating for years. Even a 2 year old could come to this conclusion.

    I get to GC with 6r2 in my deck every season but when you run into some of these accounts (as I do in Diamond and above), you really get to see how vast the gap is. This applies to arena where they can use those massive rosters to grind out new champs (even without cheating), having tougher war defenders/attackers, having tons of units to trivialize game content, getting all the milestones in the 7* event, etc.

    Clownius Clown had an excellent take on the issue:

    https://youtu.be/gHYYKY2-AZc

    Wow, wonder if Kabam took a look at the accounts they picked up. Hopefully Kabam takes action and don't let themselves look like they got outsmarted.
  • KeonexKeonex Member Posts: 326 ★★★
    it’s definitely unfair, a 7 day ban isn’t enough

    like OP said, everything they gained through cheating is being used to help them in other areas of content

    just doing a temp ban plus removing the champion from the arena that was investigated isn’t enough

    what about ALL the previous champs they achieved through cheating, maybe Kabam if not doing a permanent ban should instead remove ALL major champions they ever got through arena and they should remained banned until such a thorough investigation can be completed.

    if not they will just profit from cheating and thus kabam is just endorsing cheating in game
  • b3atub3atu Member Posts: 22
    some definitely got a little surprise when logging on again..

  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★
    I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,585 ★★★★★
    It wasn't really to punbish those accounts, it was more like "Hey, we know what you've been doing. Anybody who looks at your PVP wins and win streaks plus your leaderboard positions also know what you've doing. We'd like you to stop now".
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,236 ★★★★
    Having 7 day bans gives some leeway to cheaters. Should be insta ban no questions asked.
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    b3atu said:

    some definitely got a little surprise when logging on again..

    This cannot be real…
  • TanukiTalesTanukiTales Member Posts: 258 ★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.

    I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.

    I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.
    So do they, arena modding allows for units for deals, catalyst store, boosts, potions, etc. It impacts all game modes because it gave unlimited access to the base currency of MCOC.

    Add in access too newer champs that can also be used in BGs. The alliances and the cheaters all deserve to be docked substantially for AW season 42, and BG season 8.

    It’s disgusting to me that some of these cheaters are in the top 10.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    As far as they said.. if they are caught cheating, they remove the points from BG milestones...
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.

    I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.
    So do they, arena modding allows for units for deals, catalyst store, boosts, potions, etc. It impacts all game modes because it gave unlimited access to the base currency of MCOC.

    Add in access too newer champs that can also be used in BGs. The alliances and the cheaters all deserve to be docked substantially for AW season 42, and BG season 8.

    It’s disgusting to me that some of these cheaters are in the top 10.
    And yet, some here would have you believe that these cheaters don’t do enough for Kabam to get a slap on the wrist.
  • KeonexKeonex Member Posts: 326 ★★★
    all them that were caught cheating are cruising in BGs gladiator circuit using champ they cheated to obtain.

    how is this fair play?

    temp ban but allow them to come back, you just gave them a small vacation from game now they get to play using champs they got by exploiting the game
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    Keonex said:

    all them that were caught cheating are cruising in BGs gladiator circuit using champ they cheated to obtain.

    how is this fair play?

    temp ban but allow them to come back, you just gave them a small vacation from game now they get to play using champs they got by exploiting the game

    The cheaters keep disagreeing with common sense.
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    Y’all do realize those welcome back gifts are for taking an extended break from the game, not from 7 day bans….
  • HuenasHuenas Member Posts: 33
    Now that kabam has all their mod/bot Accts back in game, are folks still enjoying BGs, arena and all other modes?

    Are folks amped up to spend real €€ $$ to complete against kabams bot/mod accounts?
  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★
    It's just for show. Top payers will remain top players.

    See it for that it really is.


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