Who shud be my next 2 r4s?

JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 424 ★★
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  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Doom and Nick/Hulkling
  • XFREEDOMXXFREEDOMX Member Posts: 525 ★★★
    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.
  • JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 424 ★★
    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
  • XFREEDOMXXFREEDOMX Member Posts: 525 ★★★
    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Valk and Abs ideally need to be sig 200
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    I am sorry for your complete lack of good options.

    LOL, I have most of those at ranked 4 and two at r5. I'd do Scorpion and Hulking first. Great damage and utility. Will clear a ton of champs and nodes for you.
  • JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 424 ★★
    Colinwhitworth69 said:

    I am sorry for your complete lack of good options.

    LOL, I have most of those at ranked 4 and two at r5. I'd do Scorpion and Hulking first. Great damage and utility. Will clear a ton of champs and nodes for you.

    I'm assuming ur first Quote to be a joke or I'd kms😭. Yeah I think I'll go with hulking and either doom or scorp
  • JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 424 ★★
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    I know doom is a better champ but most of the ppl say doom doesn't need a rank up since he already does better since of atk rating and should do a better champ. I think I'll go with hulking and prolly nick or scorpion.
  • JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 424 ★★
    XFREEDOMX said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Valk and Abs ideally need to be sig 200
    Oh. Valks only at 62 and abs is not awakened yet so they're out of option ig.
  • coolspiderman17_coolspiderman17_ Member Posts: 322 ★★★
    Kitty hulkling scorp
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Jarvisrei said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    I know doom is a better champ but most of the ppl say doom doesn't need a rank up since he already does better since of atk rating and should do a better champ. I think I'll go with hulking and prolly nick or scorpion.
    I don’t think anybody says that. Doom and herc are the most common rankups in the game for a reason
  • Pascals001Pascals001 Member, Guardian Posts: 128 Guardian
    Nick Fury and Hulkling (Easy to play and will carry your account a lot).
    If you Like Immunities Scorp and Abs Man (Please only rank Abs if you like or Want to learn to play him well.)

    Overall you couldn't go wrong with most champs From that Screenshot.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,091 Guardian
    I'm biased, but Hulkling and valk will give you a lot of value
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,733 ★★★★★
    edited July 2023
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
    Agree to disagree then I don’t feel like proving you wrong
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,733 ★★★★★
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
    Agree to disagree then I don’t feel like proving you wrong
    Nick isn’t as good on offense as the others in the skill class imo. Vega makes some excellent points on this and I agree. I haven’t seen anyone take him over Kate, Shang, Valk, KP, and some others for offensive purposes other than war in a long time. He’s still an easy top 5 and a great defender, but there are arguments to be made about his offensive uses. Kate covers pretty much every piece of utility than he has and she doesn’t have to operate with DW and on 30%. “I don’t feel like proving you wrong” lol please try
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
    Agree to disagree then I don’t feel like proving you wrong
    Nick isn’t as good on offense as the others in the skill class imo. Vega makes some excellent points on this and I agree. I haven’t seen anyone take him over Kate, Shang, Valk, KP, and some others for offensive purposes other than war in a long time. He’s still an easy top 5 and a great defender, but there are arguments to be made about his offensive uses. Kate covers pretty much every piece of utility than he has and she doesn’t have to operate with DW and on 30%. “I don’t feel like proving you wrong” lol please try
    He shuts down miss and evade with ease and autoblock after a little ramp, and time doesn’t matter inall content except BGs. Utility does. He hits like a truck in his second life and 30% is fine if you play well. He also hits hard in his first life but wants the DW mastery. In my opinion he’s the best skill champ or tied with kingpin just because of his versatility and the fact that he’s fantastic in every game mode. Plus, the second life safety net, stun immunity, unblockable, 20 charge fury buff, guaranteed purify on knockdown, and more just adds to his utility and makes him even more of a machine.

    Turns out, I did feel like it
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,733 ★★★★★
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
    Agree to disagree then I don’t feel like proving you wrong
    Nick isn’t as good on offense as the others in the skill class imo. Vega makes some excellent points on this and I agree. I haven’t seen anyone take him over Kate, Shang, Valk, KP, and some others for offensive purposes other than war in a long time. He’s still an easy top 5 and a great defender, but there are arguments to be made about his offensive uses. Kate covers pretty much every piece of utility than he has and she doesn’t have to operate with DW and on 30%. “I don’t feel like proving you wrong” lol please try
    He shuts down miss and evade with ease and autoblock after a little ramp, and time doesn’t matter inall content except BGs. Utility does. He hits like a truck in his second life and 30% is fine if you play well. He also hits hard in his first life but wants the DW mastery. In my opinion he’s the best skill champ or tied with kingpin just because of his versatility and the fact that he’s fantastic in every game mode. Plus, the second life safety net, stun immunity, unblockable, 20 charge fury buff, guaranteed purify on knockdown, and more just adds to his utility and makes him even more of a machine.

    Turns out, I did feel like it
    His utility is great, probably QS levels, but it’s nowhere near as consistent and easy to keep up in his first life as you’re making it out to be.

    I think Vega’s opinion on him perfectly mirrors mine. I don’t want to repeat what he said verbatim nor do I agree with every point he has to make about every champ, but I don’t think Nick is a tier above the other champs I mentioned. Kate can shut down miss easily, she has an easy evade counter and safety net for getting hit because of her passive stun arrow (which is also excellent for dodging stuff like disorient next battlegrounds meta and finishing without taking a single bit of block damage), DOT that’s even more consistently high, she goes unblockable with her crush passive and can easily keeps cycling specials and keeping all her effects up, and she also has a passive infuriate basically where the AI just throws specials every time against the corner. I’ve seen her take champs that Nick could never take. Valk shuts down like everything by just hitting into block. Unstoppable counter, shrugs, ect. I think it’s extremely valid to say that Nick is #1, but saying that the others are “a tier below” is just untrue. They’re all top tier for different stuff and it’s not like Nick can take everything that they can.
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 956 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Emilia90 said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Jarvisrei said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    I would do hulking doom scorpion first. Valkyrie ABS Kitty are phenomenon champs but require some skills.

    I'm good at playing Valk and abs, I just got kitty like a week ago but I'm doing fine with her
    Those three are a lower tier than doom scorp nick and hulkling, but still good champs take up who you want really
    They’re not a lower tier than those champs. I see Valk getting way more use on battlegrounds attack for a wider variety of champs than Nick ever does. Her ability to just hit into block shuts down like everything. Nick might be the better defender, but honestly I don’t see the attack benefit nearly as much as champs like Kate and Valk
    Agree to disagree then I don’t feel like proving you wrong
    Nick isn’t as good on offense as the others in the skill class imo. Vega makes some excellent points on this and I agree. I haven’t seen anyone take him over Kate, Shang, Valk, KP, and some others for offensive purposes other than war in a long time. He’s still an easy top 5 and a great defender, but there are arguments to be made about his offensive uses. Kate covers pretty much every piece of utility than he has and she doesn’t have to operate with DW and on 30%. “I don’t feel like proving you wrong” lol please try
    He shuts down miss and evade with ease and autoblock after a little ramp, and time doesn’t matter inall content except BGs. Utility does. He hits like a truck in his second life and 30% is fine if you play well. He also hits hard in his first life but wants the DW mastery. In my opinion he’s the best skill champ or tied with kingpin just because of his versatility and the fact that he’s fantastic in every game mode. Plus, the second life safety net, stun immunity, unblockable, 20 charge fury buff, guaranteed purify on knockdown, and more just adds to his utility and makes him even more of a machine.

    Turns out, I did feel like it
    His utility is great, probably QS levels, but it’s nowhere near as consistent and easy to keep up in his first life as you’re making it out to be.

    I think Vega’s opinion on him perfectly mirrors mine. I don’t want to repeat what he said verbatim nor do I agree with every point he has to make about every champ, but I don’t think Nick is a tier above the other champs I mentioned. Kate can shut down miss easily, she has an easy evade counter and safety net for getting hit because of her passive stun arrow (which is also excellent for dodging stuff like disorient next battlegrounds meta and finishing without taking a single bit of block damage), DOT that’s even more consistently high, she goes unblockable with her crush passive and can easily keeps cycling specials and keeping all her effects up, and she also has a passive infuriate basically where the AI just throws specials every time against the corner. I’ve seen her take champs that Nick could never take. Valk shuts down like everything by just hitting into block. Unstoppable counter, shrugs, ect. I think it’s extremely valid to say that Nick is #1, but saying that the others are “a tier below” is just untrue. They’re all top tier for different stuff and it’s not like Nick can take everything that they can.
    I value a champ based on how well they perform when thrust into any scenario. Kate and Valk are fantastic on offense and better than Nick on attack in BGs, but the reason I consider them A tier (Nick and KP being S tier) is because neither will do well on alliance war defense or Battlegrounds defense, while Nick will do well at everything, offense or defense, in the entire game.
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