Let's chat about "Input drops/ lags"- August update

Darkknight_94Darkknight_94 Member Posts: 467 ★★★
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Let's discuss about input drops & the inconsistency regarding the timing of registering the inputs & how our champs reacts late!
• Are you all satisfied/ happy with inputs mechanism lately ( specially after august update)?
If NOT, share what's happening?
If YES, just give your opinion on how to make it better since they took away the new input system from beta options

Comments

  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,550 ★★★★★
    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.
  • Darkknight_94Darkknight_94 Member Posts: 467 ★★★
    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,553 ★★★★★
    No problems here, either. Maybe people's phones are just greasy and that's why it won't register inputs.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,553 ★★★★★
    Darkknight_94 said:

    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.
    No he's saying people at the top of the game would definitely be the most vocal group about these issues since they are impacted the most, but they haven't experienced any of these issues
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,036 ★★★★
    There’s a new lag spike before specials now.
  • ElthanElthan Member Posts: 94 ★★
    Using a Xiaomi MI 10T pro. I don't know what they did, perhaps it's because of the 30 fps lock, but the inputs are a lot better for me:
    -no more delay between inputs on screen and champion's reaction
    -I can more precisely and constantly parry, dodge at the last frame before opponent makes contact or charge heavy until the debuff is nearly gone without being punished by the opponent (before they were getting out of stun before the end of the debuff)
    -the opponent doesn't "slide" anymore to make contact with me when they launch their SP, even though I was out of range

    Those are few examples that make the gameplay better for me.

    I also wants to point out a better graphic quality on certain stages (Surtur) and champions (lighting on OG Thor). Nice job from the art and graphic team.

    I am sorry to read not everyone is satisfied with the current version.
  • JeancrbJeancrb Member Posts: 227 ★★
    I have the feeling it got better recently actually! but still from time to time I'm having trouble with parry and sometimes dashing back end up in a parry/block but much less since a week or so.

    Ps: I did a similar thread few weeks ago and it got lock quite fast from Kabam Miike, I hope this one will survive :p
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,550 ★★★★★
    Darkknight_94 said:

    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.
    No. Less skilled players who don't understand the game are being extremely vocal about how dropped inputs in bgs aren't letting them parry. They have zero idea disorient lowers the chance of parry. They fight shuri, same thing. They yell and scream and blame kabaam. No idea all her attacks are non contact or what that even means for parry. Every month or so somebody makes a thread crying about inputs because they can't parry Electra. I hope you get the point .

    If your want to know if there are input issues simply see if kt1 has made a video. He's by far the most critical of Kabam. Knows the intricacies of the game And streams at least 50 percent of his game play. If there are input issues he will make a video and back it up with receipts

    I know what your saying, he has an iPhone and I have a Droid! Every member of his alliance records every war fight and when they die they post the video and explain why. So you have 30 highly skilled players, from all over the world on different devices, internet, and servers. All with receipts. So if there are issues he will make a video.
  • UnOriginalUnOriginal Member Posts: 729 ★★★
    laserjohn26 said:

    Darkknight_94 said:

    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.
    No. Less skilled players who don't understand the game are being extremely vocal about how dropped inputs in bgs aren't letting them parry. They have zero idea disorient lowers the chance of parry. They fight shuri, same thing. They yell and scream and blame kabaam. No idea all her attacks are non contact or what that even means for parry. Every month or so somebody makes a thread crying about inputs because they can't parry Electra. I hope you get the point .

    If your want to know if there are input issues simply see if kt1 has made a video. He's by far the most critical of Kabam. Knows the intricacies of the game And streams at least 50 percent of his game play. If there are input issues he will make a video and back it up with receipts

    I know what your saying, he has an iPhone and I have a Droid! Every member of his alliance records every war fight and when they die they post the video and explain why. So you have 30 highly skilled players, from all over the world on different devices, internet, and servers. All with receipts. So if there are issues he will make a video.
    I swear i was more of my character standing there than parry but i did forgot about that for a sec
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★
    My champions keep getting stuck in block even though I’m not touching the left side of the screen (100% sure I’m doing a heavy, not a block). Cost me my incursions run.
  • Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 735 ★★★★
    Darkknight_94 said:

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.

    Correct. They tend to be the big spenders, which means they are more important to Kabam
  • ZekirZekir Member Posts: 155 ★★
    Axew said:

    My champions keep getting stuck in block even though I’m not touching the left side of the screen (100% sure I’m doing a heavy, not a block). Cost me my incursions run.

    I've noticed this too when doing incursions.
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    Then notice that "Palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy."

    So I clean my phone and take a break.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 203 ★★
    Zekir said:

    Axew said:

    My champions keep getting stuck in block even though I’m not touching the left side of the screen (100% sure I’m doing a heavy, not a block). Cost me my incursions run.

    I've noticed this too when doing incursions.
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    .
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    Then notice that "Palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy."

    So I clean my phone and take a break.
    Was that after you threw up your mom's spaghetti
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★
    the truth is for those claiming it doesn't exist because "none of the YouTubers complain". just watch. it happens to them too. they just don't complain for whatever reason. maybe in the grand scheme a few control issues, AI stupidity doesn't bother them because whales but they definitely experience issues.

    i've caught a few streams and you'll see them in shock when a counter fails, a combo fails etc.

    so to say an issue doesn't exist because your favorite Master alliance or YouTube guy isn't making videos about it is just weird.

    the problems DO exist. they have existed for a while and it is not based on skill but an inherent issue with the game's mechanic and consistency in behavior.

    i'd list the number of issues i've had in this season of BGs alone but i'm not on YouTube so you probably wouldn't believe me.
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,396 ★★★★
    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    you can't try and deny the fact input issues exist.
    it does seem to affect different players differently, probably combination of device, server lag, etc.

    but when your champ dashes in when you are holding block, or will not do a heavy when you are holding the screen, or stuck in heavy charging when you are not even touching the screen this is not a skill issue.

    Yes i agree that players do overstate missed parries.
    and probably 90% of what players say "dropped input" is just a missed parry due to timing or abilities.
    but to try and say that input issues do not happen is a joke.

    biggest problem is they are inconsistent.
  • HorndogHorndog Member Posts: 38 ★
    Ive loads of missing input, even on a basic 5 hit combo, also random dash forward when trying to block.
  • TheKiryuTheKiryu Member Posts: 266 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    laserjohn26 said:

    Darkknight_94 said:

    laserjohn26 said:

    No problems. I'm hearing zero complaints from masters/ map 8/ celestial players. It's possible it is skill issue.

    So unless, players from master alliances/ map8/ celestials doesn't complaint about how ai & inputs are lagging lately, everything is "working fine & as intended " ..umm ok.
    No. Less skilled players who don't understand the game are being extremely vocal about how dropped inputs in bgs aren't letting them parry. They have zero idea disorient lowers the chance of parry. They fight shuri, same thing. They yell and scream and blame kabaam. No idea all her attacks are non contact or what that even means for parry. Every month or so somebody makes a thread crying about inputs because they can't parry Electra. I hope you get the point .

    If your want to know if there are input issues simply see if kt1 has made a video. He's by far the most critical of Kabam. Knows the intricacies of the game And streams at least 50 percent of his game play. If there are input issues he will make a video and back it up with receipts

    I know what your saying, he has an iPhone and I have a Droid! Every member of his alliance records every war fight and when they die they post the video and explain why. So you have 30 highly skilled players, from all over the world on different devices, internet, and servers. All with receipts. So if there are issues he will make a video.
    Just fyi i after 8 years of playing the game i seem to be worse at parrying in last 6 or so months than ever. Kabam is def adjusting things regarding parry imo and its exact timing,or issues.

    Additionally AI has been undoubtedly changed, faster recovery times, reparry(esp on double med champs in block), shallow intercepts and most recently they have started light intercepting you aswell.

    Just because i dont make a video on something doesnt mean problems do not exist. Despite what people think of me i actually choose not to cover as many or more issues as i end up covering for the simple reason that game has so many bugs that its almost impossible to talk about them all in detail unless i want to ONLY cover those issues and also i, myself am just tired of it, exhausted, desptite what some may think it brings me joy to rant at kabam. Wish i didnt feel like i had to at all. But here we are, that there is so much wrong with the game that i simply dont even have the time or willpower to tackle it all.

    As an example in my latest stream i was fighting mephisto. I had no buffs active, and mephisto had no aura, i was baiting his l2, never made contact with him and somehow meph randomly got a chunk of power, and got to l3, and wrecked me, will i make a vid on it? No. Why? Because kabam has worn me and many other players down so much that on grand scheme of things it barely registers
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