What are your opinions on the balancing info for Photon and Vox?

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,659 ★★★★★
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https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/354542/photon-and-vox-balance-update

I was expecting Photon to be nerfed on defense, but I am glad Vox is staying the same as is.

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  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,697 ★★★★
    What's that BAMF! At the end, are they teasing Nightcrawler? Because if so, time was due!
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Opandemonio said:

    What's that BAMF! At the end, are they teasing Nightcrawler? Because if so, time was due!

    Back Again , MF!!
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,962 ★★★★★
    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    I very much doubt science is the best class. Cosmic would like a word with you. Also, science for the longest time was the absolute worst class. It's nice to say that's no longer the case.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Longshot_33 said:

    Fair to say that defenders will never be nerfed if Photon and Kindred didn’t get touched. Nerfing program only exists to tone down champs from an attacker standpoint and guard against another Hercules situation

    Like how abs man was untouched and completely left? Or Zemo?
  • Vegeta9001Vegeta9001 Member Posts: 1,708 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    @Opandemonio BAMF is the sound that Nightcrawler makes when he teleports.

    Dang and here's me thinking they were adding Mcree to the contest.
  • TheholyplungerTheholyplunger Member Posts: 83 ★
    Disappointed with the Vox news. I love him, and offensively he's fantastic. They needed to remove the nullification damage though. There is no reason for it and it ruins him for incursions and basically any node where buffs are removed. He could be incredible for incursions but one boss with tranquility (very common) and he's screwed. Can't use him on defense since any basic mystic nukes him. Removing that one thing opens his usability and makes him a mid defender. Really unfortunate
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,659 ★★★★★
    edited December 2023
    @Theholyplunger Vox was meant to be a pure attacker while Photon was meant to be a defender while still being good on attack. But pure attackers and pure defenders do exist (looking at you kindred)
  • MadGodOryxMadGodOryx Member Posts: 76 ★
    They really needed to do something to open up Photon as a champ. Having her turn off willpower, remove Dex, and then also make her unable to miss or be blocked is frankly just too much. Everytime I go watch BG content she gets banned by anyone not running her in their deck. And the people who do run her dont like fighting her either! Something as simple as a way to take away her charges like Captain Marvel Movie *alone* would have been so incredibly nice. But instead we get stuck with her seemingly permanently. I dont agree with it in the slightest.

    Happy with Vox news. I really want him as a 6 or 7 star. Everything I’ve played around with on my 4star has been so much fun!
  • MadGodOryxMadGodOryx Member Posts: 76 ★
    Emilia90 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    I very much doubt science is the best class. Cosmic would like a word with you. Also, science for the longest time was the absolute worst class. It's nice to say that's no longer the case.
    Science has more consistent top champs imo. Cosmic drops off way harder than science does, especially with the additions we’ve had this year with Hulk getting buffed, Cassie, Silk, and Photon

    Also I’m getting destroyed with disagrees lmao. Are people this mad that photon is staying the same or did I say something wrong 😭
    Youre not saying anything wrong IMO we just hate Photon on defense that much lmao
  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 616 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    I very much doubt science is the best class. Cosmic would like a word with you. Also, science for the longest time was the absolute worst class. It's nice to say that's no longer the case.
    Science has more consistent top champs imo. Cosmic drops off way harder than science does, especially with the additions we’ve had this year with Hulk getting buffed, Cassie, Silk, and Photon

    Also I’m getting destroyed with disagrees lmao. Are people this mad that photon is staying the same or did I say something wrong 😭
    In my opinion, the rebalance is intended to correct overpowered champions, regardless of attack or defense. Photon is by far the most overpowered champion to be released in 3 years. If she doesnt get nerfed then Kabam might as well forget about nerfing any other champs. Focus only on buffing champs. Very disappointing
  • IsisixkswmrIsisixkswmr Member Posts: 237 ★
    I honestly think they could have chosen someone else for the tune up. Maybe Symbiote Spider Man.
  • avengersunit24avengersunit24 Member Posts: 29 ★
    Buttehrs said:

    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    I very much doubt science is the best class. Cosmic would like a word with you. Also, science for the longest time was the absolute worst class. It's nice to say that's no longer the case.
    If you still believe cosmic is the best class in almost "enormous" 2024 then your big slacking lol. Is not even all the broken science champions released this year, is when you factor in others from the previous years who are still up top like spot and titania. Is cool that science is really potent now but i think the game is riding on them too much, we need this same love for other classes
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  • TheholyplungerTheholyplunger Member Posts: 83 ★
    EdisonLaw said:

    @Theholyplunger Vox was meant to be a pure attacker while Photon was meant to be a defender while still being good on attack. But pure attackers and pure defenders do exist (looking at you kindred)

    I agree with you, mostly. The main issue is a pure attacker, as you put it, who can't attack isn't a pure attacker. Herc, Claire, ghost, hit monkey, silk, sunspot, etc are all pure attackers. None of them are punished for what makes them pure attackers. It's one thing for the mystic class to dominate a cosmic, it's another for a lot of common nodes to also dominate vox. The mystic class still dominates vox if you remove the unavoidable damage from removing his buffs
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    Science is the class that falls off the hardest in a bad meta. No debuffs allowed, no science class.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,205 ★★★★
    My 6*r5 Ascended Photon and 7*r2 Vox survived the purge, we good. But why buff luke cage again? Makes no sense...
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,205 ★★★★
    SecondSkriller said:

    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    Science is the class that falls off the hardest in a bad meta. No debuffs allowed, no science class.
    Luke cage relies on debuffs anyway, if the point was to counter that weakness within the class, why not choose someone like sentry instead (who isn't as reliant on debuffs, but also stinks)????
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,659 ★★★★★
    Theholyplunger said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    @Theholyplunger Vox was meant to be a pure attacker while Photon was meant to be a defender while still being good on attack. But pure attackers and pure defenders do exist (looking at you kindred)

    I agree with you, mostly. The main issue is a pure attacker, as you put it, who can't attack isn't a pure attacker. Herc, Claire, ghost, hit monkey, silk, sunspot, etc are all pure attackers. None of them are punished for what makes them pure attackers. It's one thing for the mystic class to dominate a cosmic, it's another for a lot of common nodes to also dominate vox. The mystic class still dominates vox if you remove the unavoidable damage from removing his buffs
    That’s why I said Vox is a pure attacker, because he has near zero value on defense
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    avengersunit24 said:

    yay another science champion buff when is already the best class in the game they really wanna put this class so hard above the other 5. Theres like way more champs from other classes that needs a buff instead of luke cage in my opinion especially since they are already buffing red guardian

    I very much doubt science is the best class. Cosmic would like a word with you. Also, science for the longest time was the absolute worst class. It's nice to say that's no longer the case.
    Science has more consistent top champs imo. Cosmic drops off way harder than science does, especially with the additions we’ve had this year with Hulk getting buffed, Cassie, Silk, and Photon

    Also I’m getting destroyed with disagrees lmao. Are people this mad that photon is staying the same or did I say something wrong 😭
    A lot of people here watch Lagacy and he's mad that they aren't nerfing her so naturally they will spam disagree, fanboy behavior nothing new lol.
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