I just have one question why?

Zeke_the_XbotZeke_the_Xbot Member Posts: 358 ★★★
edited December 2023 in General Discussion

Seriously who said 200 sig stone was correct? Like honestly how do I use this to it’s max potential, if I use an awakening gem that means only 199 sig levels remaining I wait for the champ to awaken naturally it’s 180 remaining to max. Help understand this one it’s driving me crazy 🤪

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  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,796 Guardian
    Technically the +99 SigStone that they have for ..
    (I forget if mine was for a 3* or a 4*, don’t have it anymore)
    was ALSO 1 more than maximum, because those 3*/4* champs only go up to 99 max sig (not 100).

    So they are consistent.

    As mentioned, just visually indicative that they will become a MaxSig champ.
    So just treat the item as a MaxSig stone.

    It would have looked strange for the 3*/4* ones to have only been a +98 (even though technically that's all they needed to be).
  • Zeke_the_XbotZeke_the_Xbot Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Bro is genuinely tweaking over nothing

    Bro chill it's not that serious, you think I am actually tweaking over this I'm not just find it silly.
  • Zeke_the_XbotZeke_the_Xbot Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    SummonerNR said:

    Technically the +99 SigStone that they have for ..
    (I forget if mine was for a 3* or a 4*, don’t have it anymore)
    was ALSO 1 more than maximum, because those 3*/4* champs only go up to 99 max sig (not 100).

    So they are consistent.

    As mentioned, just visually indicative that they will become a MaxSig champ.
    So just treat the item as a MaxSig stone.

    It would have looked strange for the 3*/4* ones to have only been a +98 (even though technically that's all they needed to be).

    Yes an equally silly thing. Numbers are fundamental in this game really and that accuracy drops when it comes to these items like they know max sig levels so why do it that way. The number just looks better aesthetically I'm guessing.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,676 Guardian
    Zeke_the_Xbot said:

    SummonerNR said:

    Technically the +99 SigStone that they have for ..
    (I forget if mine was for a 3* or a 4*, don’t have it anymore)
    was ALSO 1 more than maximum, because those 3*/4* champs only go up to 99 max sig (not 100).

    So they are consistent.

    As mentioned, just visually indicative that they will become a MaxSig champ.
    So just treat the item as a MaxSig stone.

    It would have looked strange for the 3*/4* ones to have only been a +98 (even though technically that's all they needed to be).

    Yes an equally silly thing. Numbers are fundamental in this game really and that accuracy drops when it comes to these items like they know max sig levels so why do it that way. The number just looks better aesthetically I'm guessing.
    A +200 sig stone is guaranteed to take any 6* champ to max sig, because max sig is 200.

    A +199 sig stone is logically going to take any 6* champ that you could apply it to up to max sig, because the lowest signature level of a champ you could apply it to is sig level 1, not sig level zero. So logically, the sig stone only needs to be +199.

    An engineer would tell you that a +200 sig stone is better than a +199 sig stone because a +200 sig stone a) tells you explicitly what it does on the label and b) requires no logical steps to conclude it will take a champion to max sig. A +199 stone, on the other hand, requires thought to determine what it does that the +200 sig stone does not, and requires a chain of logic to prove it will take a champion to max sig, which you are assuming is true but is also extra work that can go awry.

    While this seems to be a trivial situation, if you address a thousand trivial situations like this and spend extra time trying to determine what the absolute minimum necessary and sufficient requirements are, you will eventually mess one of them up. And your excuse will probably sound something like "how would I know that?"

    The simplest solution that satisfies the requirements is generally the best, not the minimum necessary and sufficient one. The history of engineering is buried in the bodies of the victims of the minimum necessary and sufficient solution.

    The sig stone is not inaccurate. It is the properly engineered solution.
  • Zeke_the_XbotZeke_the_Xbot Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Zeke_the_Xbot said:

    SummonerNR said:

    Technically the +99 SigStone that they have for ..
    (I forget if mine was for a 3* or a 4*, don’t have it anymore)
    was ALSO 1 more than maximum, because those 3*/4* champs only go up to 99 max sig (not 100).

    So they are consistent.

    As mentioned, just visually indicative that they will become a MaxSig champ.
    So just treat the item as a MaxSig stone.

    It would have looked strange for the 3*/4* ones to have only been a +98 (even though technically that's all they needed to be).

    Yes an equally silly thing. Numbers are fundamental in this game really and that accuracy drops when it comes to these items like they know max sig levels so why do it that way. The number just looks better aesthetically I'm guessing.
    A +200 sig stone is guaranteed to take any 6* champ to max sig, because max sig is 200.

    A +199 sig stone is logically going to take any 6* champ that you could apply it to up to max sig, because the lowest signature level of a champ you could apply it to is sig level 1, not sig level zero. So logically, the sig stone only needs to be +199.

    An engineer would tell you that a +200 sig stone is better than a +199 sig stone because a +200 sig stone a) tells you explicitly what it does on the label and b) requires no logical steps to conclude it will take a champion to max sig. A +199 stone, on the other hand, requires thought to determine what it does that the +200 sig stone does not, and requires a chain of logic to prove it will take a champion to max sig, which you are assuming is true but is also extra work that can go awry.

    While this seems to be a trivial situation, if you address a thousand trivial situations like this and spend extra time trying to determine what the absolute minimum necessary and sufficient requirements are, you will eventually mess one of them up. And your excuse will probably sound something like "how would I know that?"

    The simplest solution that satisfies the requirements is generally the best, not the minimum necessary and sufficient one. The history of engineering is buried in the bodies of the victims of the minimum necessary and sufficient solution.

    The sig stone is not inaccurate. It is the properly engineered solution.
    Fair enough
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Bro is genuinely tweaking over nothing

    Bro why are you always in jail😭😭
  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,063 ★★★★
    These posts are legit the things that always keep me up at night 😆
  • PoethellPoethell Member Posts: 142 ★
    So if I use my +200 on a 100 sig I’m wasting a hundred?
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,123 ★★★★★
    yep.

    I'm holding mine until I hit content that needs a particular champ at high sig.

    or wolverine, whichever comes first.
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