Raids fights should have an aggressive node

Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 748 ★★★★
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I'm going up against thanos right now, and the fight is mostly ok. The issue is when the intercept mission comes up and thanos decides to hide in the corner and hold block. And of course when I dash in to attack, he becomes a god of light intercepts.

If the defender is acting passive, you can't complete the missions. If you can't complete the missions then you can't deal any meaningful damage. You end up wasting one of your very expensive revives (there's a bunch of other issues around the revies situation, but I won't go into that right now).

I appreciate the sp1 & sp2 nodes which make him more likely to throw specials, but there also needs to be a regular aggressive node on there.

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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,488 Guardian
    Josh2507 said:

    I'm going up against thanos right now, and the fight is mostly ok. The issue is when the intercept mission comes up and thanos decides to hide in the corner and hold block. And of course when I dash in to attack, he becomes a god of light intercepts.

    If the defender is acting passive, you can't complete the missions. If you can't complete the missions then you can't deal any meaningful damage. You end up wasting one of your very expensive revives (there's a bunch of other issues around the revies situation, but I won't go into that right now).

    I appreciate the sp1 & sp2 nodes which make him more likely to throw specials, but there also needs to be a regular aggressive node on there.

    This right here is what I’ve been experiencing since beta. If I try to intercept for that node, I get light intercepted or just counter intercepted so hard or he backs away. Anything else however and I’m intercepting as crazy
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  • Noobmaster555Noobmaster555 Member Posts: 115 ★
    Josh2507 said:

    I'm going up against thanos right now, and the fight is mostly ok. The issue is when the intercept mission comes up and thanos decides to hide in the corner and hold block. And of course when I dash in to attack, he becomes a god of light intercepts.

    If the defender is acting passive, you can't complete the missions. If you can't complete the missions then you can't deal any meaningful damage. You end up wasting one of your very expensive revives (there's a bunch of other issues around the revies situation, but I won't go into that right now).

    I appreciate the sp1 & sp2 nodes which make him more likely to throw specials, but there also needs to be a regular aggressive node on there.

    I have done 5 attempts. 4 were alright but the 5th was very weird. Maestro was so passive that I can't even explain. I pushed him to sp2 and he decided literally not to throw it. I ended up launching only one sp2 before he got his 5 furies and rooted me. Usually I used to throw at least 3 sp2 but this time he wasted so much time.
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  • Savage123456789Savage123456789 Member Posts: 851 ★★★★
    WhiteKnight said:

    Noobmaster555 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    I'm going up against thanos right now, and the fight is mostly ok. The issue is when the intercept mission comes up and thanos decides to hide in the corner and hold block. And of course when I dash in to attack, he becomes a god of light intercepts.

    If the defender is acting passive, you can't complete the missions. If you can't complete the missions then you can't deal any meaningful damage. You end up wasting one of your very expensive revives (there's a bunch of other issues around the revies situation, but I won't go into that right now).

    I appreciate the sp1 & sp2 nodes which make him more likely to throw specials, but there also needs to be a regular aggressive node on there.

    I have done 5 attempts. 4 were alright but the 5th was very weird. Maestro was so passive that I can't even explain. I pushed him to sp2 and he decided literally not to throw it. I ended up launching only one sp2 before he got his 5 furies and rooted me. Usually I used to throw at least 3 sp2 but this time he wasted so much time.
    The AI is so hit and miss, one fight he's dropping heavies like no tomorrow and next he finishes combos into my block and refuses to throw sp2 😮‍💨
    Ohh man, 4 hit combo dash back, 3 hits dash back, 5 hit combo, then heavy🥹😭
  • Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 748 ★★★★
    Savage123456789 said:

    Ohh man, 4 hit combo dash back, 3 hits dash back, 5 hit combo, then heavy

    And on top of that, the defender somehow catches you on your dash back (reverse intercept?)

    You manage to dash back a little, and the defender just flies halfway across the screen in 0.2 seconds
  • WellhonestonionWellhonestonion Member Posts: 19 ★
    When they add a revive for 200 unit that’s not surprising it work as intended
  • Vegeta9001Vegeta9001 Member Posts: 1,711 ★★★★★
    I had thanos backing off and blocking for nearly 120 seconds while holding a sp2. "More likely" my back side.
  • Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 748 ★★★★
    Wellhonestonion said:

    When they add a revive for 200 unit that’s not surprising it work as intended

    The revive cost alone says everything you need to know about the design ideas behind this gamemode

    If you’re going to implement a “die now” mechanic, then revives should not under any circumstances cost 200 units
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