NC Runestone Thoughts

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  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,448 ★★★★
    Ashacekar said:

    Following are the sources to obtain all NC runestones as per today's livestream. Need 120 for guaranteed 7* NC. Though it does say subject to change.


    Apart from these there might be offers.

    My thoughts:
    10 from arena is easy, 30 from store would be fine, 30 from paragauntlet should be fine as well, 3 back to back season GCs feels a bit forced amid current less participants but doable, hopefully metas are bearable. Last but not the least incursions, now I can't do incursions without herc but let's see how it goes, if it's in zone 25, i will check the offers. So mostly incursions and BGs should be pain point.

    On the one hand, I like that Kabam isn't dangling a super tantalizing reward for me to chase (unlike Maestro with Necropolis), so I am free to ignore this.

    But on the other hand ... it took up Kabam some developer bandwidth (that could have been allocated towards something else) to design this content that I don't want to engage in. They spent time to design a special tagged Incursions mode, when that same time could have been spent, I don't know, to coming up with more interesting SQ designs than Rifts or rerunning the same path over and over.

    I felt the same way with the recent Carina Challenges (free to ignore it aside from doing 1 challenge since the rewards are underwhelming compared to what went into it).

    The Deathless chase at least has the unique factor to it (no other star versions of the champions exists aside from obtaining it from doing the challenge). The Carina Challenge and this is taking that Deathless idea and diluting it down in the hopes that players don't care that they already have 6-star versions and will want the artificially limited 7-star version.
  • G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
    I mean, on the bright side: Who needs a 7* Nightcrawler?

    I guess I'll just grab the 6* as often as I can and hope there will be ISO and 7* shards included...
  • AshacekarAshacekar Member Posts: 2,044 ★★★★

    I mean, on the bright side: Who needs a 7* Nightcrawler?

    I guess I'll just grab the 6* as often as I can and hope there will be ISO and 7* shards included...

    That's one time purchase, you can't farm 6* NC purchases
  • G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
    Ashacekar said:

    I mean, on the bright side: Who needs a 7* Nightcrawler?

    I guess I'll just grab the 6* as often as I can and hope there will be ISO and 7* shards included...

    That's one time purchase, you can't farm 6* NC purchases
    Sure? Where did they say that? And what to we do with all those access runes, when the 6* only costs 30 runes, iirc...
  • G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★

    If is zone 25 sector 7 no way in hell am doing that cause the attack values and health pool is not something you can do without revives unless you using herc.

    I mean, some hack combinations really come in handy... My personal favorite combo is:
    - Basic attacks have a chance to grant armor (combined with some minor hacks that increas armor ability accuracy)
    - While you have armor, basic attacs have a chance to stun
    - medium ending combos apply incinerate (combined with champs that have a double medium ender, like Aegon)

    Opponnents are melting! And you are only stopped, if there is a roadblock node (or Dust)
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,505 ★★★★★

    If is zone 25 sector 7 no way in hell am doing that cause the attack values and health pool is not something you can do without revives unless you using herc.

    I mean, some hack combinations really come in handy... My personal favorite combo is:
    - Basic attacks have a chance to grant armor (combined with some minor hacks that increas armor ability accuracy)
    - While you have armor, basic attacs have a chance to stun
    - medium ending combos apply incinerate (combined with champs that have a double medium ender, like Aegon)

    Opponnents are melting! And you are only stopped, if there is a roadblock node (or Dust)
    FAM is great with that armor up stun buffs, the stuns won't stack after 3 copies so you can't stun lock, but fam sp1 prevents opponent from launching a sp3 so you have complete control in fight .
    Combine that with buff cornucopia
  • Savage123456789Savage123456789 Member Posts: 781 ★★★
    I think they said on the stream that the incursions thing will be based on X-magica champs. So you won't be able to use herc for that challenge? Or they meant the defenders will be X-magica champs? Not sure, don't remember, but I think they said something like that.
  • AshacekarAshacekar Member Posts: 2,044 ★★★★

    Ashacekar said:

    I mean, on the bright side: Who needs a 7* Nightcrawler?

    I guess I'll just grab the 6* as often as I can and hope there will be ISO and 7* shards included...

    That's one time purchase, you can't farm 6* NC purchases
    Sure? Where did they say that? And what to we do with all those access runes, when the 6* only costs 30 runes, iirc...
    Okie for 30 runes, buying it 4 times won't be game breaking. You are good then.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,241 ★★★★★
    I am thronebreaker and I'm getting paragon at the end of the 21 day magic heist solo event. Sadly, my skill level means I won't be able to get to the end of victory track 3 times plus the various other difficulty challenges plus I'm f2p
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,549 ★★★★★
    edited March 4

    I think they said on the stream that the incursions thing will be based on X-magica champs. So you won't be able to use herc for that challenge? Or they meant the defenders will be X-magica champs? Not sure, don't remember, but I think they said something like that.

    Sector 7 will be xmagica iirc
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,414 ★★★★
    So I didn’t watch the livestream yet (been in Hawai’i and I figured that was probably more interesting than seeing Jax for an hour, as handsome as he is), but a couple things stand out to me -

    As everyone has mentioned, BG for three back to back seasons is not just a slog, is not just a grind, but it almost feels like punishment. If every single person in the thread is complaining about having to do it, it doesn’t seem like fun for engaging content that people want to do like Necropolis or hopefully the majority of Winter of Woe (time will tell).

    But more than that, for me specifically at least, I have never enjoyed Incursions. I have never “been good enough” to make it all the way to Zone 25 let alone past 12 or 13 if not for only a couple very rare occasions. And that’s fine, it’s just not for me.

    But if it’s going to remain “TBD” and I go through the painful effort of doing March and April’s BGs for the Runes, and then when revealed, the Incursions milestone or meta to get those Runes is exceedingly difficult near impossible, I’m going to be pretty upset about pushing myself in earlier content. REALLY hoping we get some advance notice into *what* it’s actually going to look like.
  • MoeyTehrMoeyTehr Member Posts: 455 ★★
    With Battlegrounds Victory Track completion in there (three times over!), something I've never done partially because of bugs, partially because it's far too time consuming and frustrating, I guess this means I won't be getting the 7* Nightcrawler. At least this way. Good to know I shouldn't waste my time on any of the others, too.
  • DarkChamp732DarkChamp732 Member Posts: 86
    Ashacekar said:

    Following are the sources to obtain all NC runestones as per today's livestream. Need 120 for guaranteed 7* NC. Though it does say subject to change.


    Apart from these there might be offers.

    My thoughts:
    10 from arena is easy, 30 from store would be fine, 30 from paragauntlet should be fine as well, 3 back to back season GCs feels a bit forced amid current less participants but doable, hopefully metas are bearable. Last but not the least incursions, now I can't do incursions without herc but let's see how it goes, if it's in zone 25, i will check the offers. So mostly incursions and BGs should be pain point.

    Just spend 50 bucks on daily offers and stop complaining smh 🤦‍♂️
  • ZsirhcZZsirhcZ Member Posts: 218
    Wicket329 said:

    ZsirhcZ said:

    Each season of BG that you fail to reach the milestone will cost $50 in the store to get your 10 missing stones. Which is egregious to say the least.

    Once you make it to GC the first time though, you’ll at least have a shorter climb (assuming you hadn’t made GC in the previous season). I agree it’s not a thrilling proposition, just looking to soften the blow
    I’ve only made it to Vib 3 times in the last 13 seasons and have yet to reach Vib 1 and the GC.

  • ChobblyChobbly Member Posts: 943 ★★★★
    edited March 4
    I'd like to know if you can buy the 6* Nightcrawler more than once. With 30 tokens buying the 6* but 120 required for the 7*, unless you can hit the 120 everything over 30 looks like a waste of effort.

    Being able to spend 60, for example, to buy and dupe a 6* would be appreciated by quite a few players that can't quite hit the 7* mark, I think.
  • Maverick75Maverick75 Member Posts: 744 ★★★
    edited March 5
    Well, I have never ended the Victory Track (with the loss of tokens in case of defeat) and have only played the Gauntlet when it was activated by a bug.
    Bye bye 7* Nightcrawler. For a short time, you were a light in the nice stuff for Paragorns

    Without the rank-up gems, I would have gave up the current season.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★
    It would be really nice from Kabam to announce in advance the Incursions requirements for the 20 runes there.
    If it's anything more than top sector's zone 12, it will be a hard pass for most people.
    I hope Kabam won't do the mistake putting them behind zone 25 completion.
    After all, it's Nightcrawler we are talking about, not some OP champion to justify excessive effort to get.
    Already three consecutive GC placements are quite a big effort for weaker accounts, considering the state of VT after the token requirement changes, adding a high Incursions zone requirement will kill the hopes of these players.
  • Eugene_VirtuosoEugene_Virtuoso Member Posts: 378

    I think they said on the stream that the incursions thing will be based on X-magica champs. So you won't be able to use herc for that challenge? Or they meant the defenders will be X-magica champs? Not sure, don't remember, but I think they said something like that.

    Is it just X-magica or is Magic-thief also included? It obviously sucks that we won't be able to use Hercules, Aegon, Hulkling, Kitty etc. But it would be quite unfair to limit us to just the X-magica champions in the new & much tougher Sector 7 challenge, the tag has two or three champions tops that are viable for incursions at that level. If it includes Magic-thief champions as well, at least we have a better chance to have some success.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,241 ★★★★★

    I think they said on the stream that the incursions thing will be based on X-magica champs. So you won't be able to use herc for that challenge? Or they meant the defenders will be X-magica champs? Not sure, don't remember, but I think they said something like that.

    Is it just X-magica or is Magic-thief also included? It obviously sucks that we won't be able to use Hercules, Aegon, Hulkling, Kitty etc. But it would be quite unfair to limit us to just the X-magica champions in the new & much tougher Sector 7 challenge, the tag has two or three champions tops that are viable for incursions at that level. If it includes Magic-thief champions as well, at least we have a better chance to have some success.
    It could be that sector 7 is sector 6 just with more flair and only current saga champs
  • AshacekarAshacekar Member Posts: 2,044 ★★★★
    edited March 5

    I think they said on the stream that the incursions thing will be based on X-magica champs. So you won't be able to use herc for that challenge? Or they meant the defenders will be X-magica champs? Not sure, don't remember, but I think they said something like that.

    Is it just X-magica or is Magic-thief also included? It obviously sucks that we won't be able to use Hercules, Aegon, Hulkling, Kitty etc. But it would be quite unfair to limit us to just the X-magica champions in the new & much tougher Sector 7 challenge, the tag has two or three champions tops that are viable for incursions at that level. If it includes Magic-thief champions as well, at least we have a better chance to have some success.
    It could be that sector 7 is sector 6 just with more flair and only current saga champs
    They did tell in stream that sector 7 is just sector 6 but with the themed champs. No additional difficulty increase (Apart from the difficulty of picking attackers from saga pool if they add it)
  • AshacekarAshacekar Member Posts: 2,044 ★★★★
    Also one thought i got just now, for sector 7 mystic defenders would be an issue. We only have thing and void as science champs in saga pool. Also Mephisto should definitely be not there this time.
  • Wasy1Wasy1 Member Posts: 104
    Too much work for just to get a 7 star Nightcrawler after 3 months :(
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