What does the future of deathless champs look like?
TP33
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I’m loving the roll out of deathless champions so far. Both Guilly and King Groot are fun champions which are actually more viable for content than I anticipated them to be. But there are some questions about the future, and I would like to provide my thoughts whilst asking others about what they think the future for these champions is.
Now for the 4th champion I’ve seen a lot of theories. Early promotional materials didn’t give much away, and the most recent teases show just a plain black outline of what looks like a regular guy.
Lots of people think it will be Vision. Now I think this is plausible, Vision right now exists as a trophy champion, a deathless version would be a way of giving his kit some more widespread application. But then again it’s so bare bones I doubt he will go without change. If it is vision his synthesis ability will probably get some form of change, whether in the form of a timer, or by giving the player control of when they gain the power (e.g on heavy attack with a cool down of 10 seconds)
Personally I think it could be something more far fetched, kabam could totally give us someone completely different. I don’t think it will be scarlet witch given how she’s being released through AW rewards, a deathless version would definitely be seen as a slap in the face for those master tier players. But if it isn’t vision it could well be any champion, an Iron Man would be my personal vote (if we got a choice)
So far all of the deathless champions have had some form of potent regeneration. Hyperion already has a regen in his kit and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was given a tune up. I doubt the L2 will be touched (unless they give the breath hit a coldsnap as well). I do think they will want him to remain a parry heavy champion, so far the deathless champions have all had the same fundamental playstyle as their regular counterparts (for Guilly this was pre buff) just with a slight modernisation of their abilities.
The only problem is that Hyperion is already a 7*, which is why the deathless version will have an “inverted” kit in terms of the power gain, with some extra utility like a coldsnap (maybe some form of miss counter as well) because if they just released him as a carbon copy of Hyperion, one of the champs would be redundant, and kabam don’t want that (more difficult to monetise one or the other)
What are my predictions for his kit/abilities? I think there are 2 options. But firstly we know that hes going to be a good champion. On multiple occasions (especially when we were all complaining after seeing deathless guillotines kit) we were assured that Thanos would be a really good champion which makes the whole thing worth our time.
Option 1 is that he combines aspects of all the deathless champions. Degen on crits like Guilly, a Fury/regen cycle like King Groot, Power gain from Hyperion, and either power drain from vision or whatever ability from the 4th champion. This could be really cool, and a combination would really make for a good attacking champion.
Option 2 is that he’s just some form of dual threat BGs champ who’s annoying enough on defense that he just gets banned every game. Now a playable Thanos (not just for the top 10 biggest spenders in the game) is a great opportunity for a tricky defender, one who punishes mistakes and requires good play to defeat. I just hope he’s not one of those who needs a very specific counter or is impossible to kill, but that doesn’t seem to be the direction we’re moving in.
Either way I have a couple hopes. Firstly I hope he has high prestige so we can show him off on our profiles and secondly I hope we do get a way to dupe him. All the other deathless champs we will be able to awaken but Thanos hasn’t been confirmed yet. Now one thing that could happen is they roll out the first 7* Awakening gems at the time, whilst giving Thanos a really important/useful signature ability which is effective from the gate (sig 1) in order to give summoners an option for their first use of an AG.
Overall I’m very exited and these are just my thoughts based on the existing patterns, but I would like to hear others thoughts and opinions below so if you’ve got any deathless theories go for it.
Who are the rest?
We know one is Hyperion, the silhouette gives it away, me personally I’m excited, always loved Hyperion and I think a deathless variant could be a really cool addition to the game (more on that later)Now for the 4th champion I’ve seen a lot of theories. Early promotional materials didn’t give much away, and the most recent teases show just a plain black outline of what looks like a regular guy.
Lots of people think it will be Vision. Now I think this is plausible, Vision right now exists as a trophy champion, a deathless version would be a way of giving his kit some more widespread application. But then again it’s so bare bones I doubt he will go without change. If it is vision his synthesis ability will probably get some form of change, whether in the form of a timer, or by giving the player control of when they gain the power (e.g on heavy attack with a cool down of 10 seconds)
Personally I think it could be something more far fetched, kabam could totally give us someone completely different. I don’t think it will be scarlet witch given how she’s being released through AW rewards, a deathless version would definitely be seen as a slap in the face for those master tier players. But if it isn’t vision it could well be any champion, an Iron Man would be my personal vote (if we got a choice)
What will Hyperion be like?
Hyperion is going to have his kit changed in some way. The most obvious change would be to change the incinerate debuff on his L1 to either a coldsnap or shock. I wouldn’t be surprised if his power gain mechanic was changed to be a longer buff but less potent (granting the same overall power but over a manageable time frame) which then reverts back to frequent, short and potent power gains after an L3 (the reverse of his current kit).So far all of the deathless champions have had some form of potent regeneration. Hyperion already has a regen in his kit and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was given a tune up. I doubt the L2 will be touched (unless they give the breath hit a coldsnap as well). I do think they will want him to remain a parry heavy champion, so far the deathless champions have all had the same fundamental playstyle as their regular counterparts (for Guilly this was pre buff) just with a slight modernisation of their abilities.
The only problem is that Hyperion is already a 7*, which is why the deathless version will have an “inverted” kit in terms of the power gain, with some extra utility like a coldsnap (maybe some form of miss counter as well) because if they just released him as a carbon copy of Hyperion, one of the champs would be redundant, and kabam don’t want that (more difficult to monetise one or the other)
Thanos
Now the elephant in the deathless room is Thanos, and I have a couple thoughts on him. I don’t think they’re just going to hand him to us for getting all the deathless champions. I reckon there will be some form of deathless quest or gauntlet, maybe requiring us to use all the deathless champions to kill a special Thanos boss. Either way I think his release will be an exciting time for all of us.What are my predictions for his kit/abilities? I think there are 2 options. But firstly we know that hes going to be a good champion. On multiple occasions (especially when we were all complaining after seeing deathless guillotines kit) we were assured that Thanos would be a really good champion which makes the whole thing worth our time.
Option 1 is that he combines aspects of all the deathless champions. Degen on crits like Guilly, a Fury/regen cycle like King Groot, Power gain from Hyperion, and either power drain from vision or whatever ability from the 4th champion. This could be really cool, and a combination would really make for a good attacking champion.
Option 2 is that he’s just some form of dual threat BGs champ who’s annoying enough on defense that he just gets banned every game. Now a playable Thanos (not just for the top 10 biggest spenders in the game) is a great opportunity for a tricky defender, one who punishes mistakes and requires good play to defeat. I just hope he’s not one of those who needs a very specific counter or is impossible to kill, but that doesn’t seem to be the direction we’re moving in.
Either way I have a couple hopes. Firstly I hope he has high prestige so we can show him off on our profiles and secondly I hope we do get a way to dupe him. All the other deathless champs we will be able to awaken but Thanos hasn’t been confirmed yet. Now one thing that could happen is they roll out the first 7* Awakening gems at the time, whilst giving Thanos a really important/useful signature ability which is effective from the gate (sig 1) in order to give summoners an option for their first use of an AG.
Overall I’m very exited and these are just my thoughts based on the existing patterns, but I would like to hear others thoughts and opinions below so if you’ve got any deathless theories go for it.
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with deathless mode instead of cosmic mode
instant degen damage on all hits
takes 80 - 90% reduced damage from all sources when in deathless mode
fury is passive and the opponent can't throw their sp3
slightly increased duration of deathless mode depending on sig level
something like this
( This is something I want and know that we will never get, but we can dream... )
They would have to change a lot in his kit so he isn't absolutely busted but it would be so cool to finally be able to use Ægon in regular content.