5-Star Featured Crystal Change Discussion Thread

Summoners!

We've just released some more information on the future of the 5-Star Featured Crystal here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/43300/upcoming-changes-to-5-star-featured-crystal

We know you've got questions, and this is the place to ask and discuss!

FAQ

Will you announce the pool of 18 each time it changes?
We do plan on sharing the list every time the crystal is updated.

Can you buy the 5 star featured crystal with units or only shards?
This crystal is replacing the currently available 15,000 Shard Featured Hero Crystals.

So does it means that if a new champ comes to the Battle Realm we won't be able to get them as a 5* right away?
You will still be able to get them in the Grandmaster Featured Crystal, but they will not be available in a featured 5-Star Hero Shard Crystal until they are added to this new Crystal. So, this might mean having to wait a little while to get some Champions, but it also gives you a shot at 6 New Champions at a time, as well as a smaller Basic pool.

Comments

Qu1ckshoT32_Gaming

Waiting for a champion to be added to the basic pull and expecting to get and dupe them is a ludicrous suggestion. I pulled Star Lord as my second ever 5 star crystal, he remains unduped. However I've pulled my first 5 star, Ronan, 5 times.

RNG determines if you have good or bad luck and your prestige, so until you introduce a way to earn specific 5 star champions, that will continue to be the case.

But no worries you can simply acquire the units to open 10 Featured Grandmaster Crystals with $100 USD, so if you would like a less than 1% chance, (from community gathered statistics) at getting the 5 star you want, that's how you do it. Can't wait for the day to come where Apple requires you to disclose all the drop rates.

bradshaw84

For the first couple years of this game the top level players were those that spent spent spent on the random element of the game until they got what they wanted.

With the 15k feature crystals that gave grinders like me s chance to EARN what I wanted at a less random rate, it wasn’t a perfect system but it was better.

Now the emphasis shifts back towards whales spending till they’re blue in the face and racing ahead of grinders for good.

Thatweirdguy

@Kabam Miike Will there be changes to the Featured Grand Master Crystals to comply with Apple's rules too? Will you be giving a drop rate 3*,4* & 5* champs from those to comply with Apple's rules?

TheGodfather

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Darth_Kaladinn wrote: »

So next month (February) Gladiator Hulk and Killmonger come out.

If I want them as a 5*, the only way to get them next month is from 300 unit crystals?! Otherwise I have to wait until May?!?! That’s crazy!

Out of curiosity, why is having to wait crazy? There is no other Crystal in the game that lets you use shards for a Champion at its release, and unless you choose to purchase the Featured Hero Crystal, you have to wait until they are released in the Basic Hero Crystal to have a chance at the 3-Star or 4-Star Champion.

The 5-Star Featured Hero crystal was an anomaly in the game that made sense with the state of the game when they were introduced, but that was a very long time ago, when you may never have a chance at that Champion again.

No other Crystal that lets you use shards for a Champion at its release.

But hold the phone, if you have $$ MONEY $$ Bada-BING you don't have to wait.

Kabam Miike

Spidermancg wrote: »

So the increased chance of obtaining Blade in his featured Crystal will go down. Boy that sucks! Who wants Taskmaster? This change is a direct response to people wanting Blade, and not going for Sentry and other new champs! Blade is too good! Please don't nerf Blade!!!!

Nope! No change to the Blade Featured Hero Crystal. We made an exception for Blade because we know how many of you were saving Shards for him.

Romissy

So no one will go for the new feature 5* crystals, was that the plan?

rwhack

Eccohawk wrote: »

rwhack wrote: »

Here’s a solution. Quit making terrible champs.

No dev/designer is sitting around the Kabam offices, or any other gaming office, talking about ways to make terrible design decisions. This is an idiotic comment to make. These guys try to create cool, unique, interesting and balanced new characters to bring to the game EVERY TWO WEEKS!! Do some miss the mark at times? Sure. But don't sit there and pretend like they do it on purpose or set out to create a character that you feel plays like garbage. Show a little respect to the hard work being put in here.

I work in a precision business that requires consistent good results. I would be out of business if I missed the target as often as they do. If they used any of the top players as testers (and no, not me), there is no way they would think Sentry for example was any good. Captain Marvel has an SP2 that gets blocked for over a year now. She-Hulk, Karmala Khan, Iron Patriot, and the list goes on. They miss the mark more than they hit it. Respect is earned not given. It hasn't been earned.

Look at the champs they put in the first one. That's also tone deaf. Beast? Geez Hawkeye isn't bad but his prestige is so bad you have to never want to keep pace with anyone to rank him. Ant-Man? I'm convinced they don't understand the game. I'm also convinced they don't do any meaningful testing. Sentry is just terrible. The comments they made about him before his release were so far from reality. Brings me back to I'll stick to my reality (which is in the real world), you stick to yours. Never mistake effort for achievement by the way. You don't get paid for effort nor do you get patted on the back for it. Glad I could teach you that.

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SpiritOfVengeance

I am not sure what to do anymore.

beyonder8421

rwhack wrote: »

Eccohawk wrote: »

rwhack wrote: »

Here’s a solution. Quit making terrible champs.

No dev/designer is sitting around the Kabam offices, or any other gaming office, talking about ways to make terrible design decisions. This is an idiotic comment to make. These guys try to create cool, unique, interesting and balanced new characters to bring to the game EVERY TWO WEEKS!! Do some miss the mark at times? Sure. But don't sit there and pretend like they do it on purpose or set out to create a character that you feel plays like garbage. Show a little respect to the hard work being put in here.

I work in a precision business that requires consistent good results. I would be out of business if I missed the target as often as they do. If they used any of the top players as testers (and no, not me), there is no way they would think Sentry for example was any good. Captain Marvel has an SP2 that gets blocked for over a year now. She-Hulk, Karmala Khan, Iron Patriot, and the list goes on. They miss the mark more than they hit it. Respect is earned not given. It hasn't been earned.

Sentry is one of the new champions, he has to be in the crystal.

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Evil_Twin

This is awful. One of the worst ideas Kabam has put in place for a long time. It is bad for the players, it reduces our choices and the control of our own fate in the game. And the "curated" list is just terrible. Kabam, you were doing so well recently and now this. Big disappointment. Why not have both options? Offer a Featured Pool crystal and a Featured Hero crystal? Players / Customers want more choices, not less.

MSpawn

I mean come on man, don't you think this is cannibalizing your own crystal sales just a bit?

Apache

Bunch of scheming ass clowns

TheGodfather

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Spidermancg wrote: »

So the increased chance of obtaining Blade in his featured Crystal will go down. Boy that sucks! Who wants Taskmaster? This change is a direct response to people wanting Blade, and not going for Sentry and other new champs! Blade is too good! Please don't nerf Blade!!!!

Nope! No change to the Blade Featured Hero Crystal. We made an exception for Blade because we know how many of you were saving Shards for him.

...And once you fools all dump your resource on him, we slide in the nerf. Not before!

beyonder8421

khehmist wrote: »

Too bad Apple didn't start requiring transparency in communications, maybe the announcement would have looked more something more like...

Due to Apple's new transparency mandate we're changing the feature crystal drop rate (for the champ you were hoping to get) to the worst of our old manipulated drop rates, for everyone, no matter how much you spend.

Let it be known to all app stores that we will respond to any attempt to influence our business to the benefit of their customers in a way that will continue to make our revenue a priority far above all others.

Forget about apple already, you cannot buy 5 star crystals with money. You can buy units and use them for crystals, but I can see the legal loophole.

Spider_ManFTW517

There seems to be some good in these crystals but there are also many cons. If you wanted to increase GMC sales good job. My question is why not keep the old and add the new. Some of the champions of the last 6 months are trash and no one wants them. I understand in the old crystals there were trash champions but there was always that good chance they would get that champion. Sometimes people need that certain champion to complete something like LOL for example.

Frnkielo

Just hit me that after all this complaining and how upset kabam sees we are with taking our 20-25 percent chance away..they know we will still play..im pretty sure they sit around computer and laugh at all the complaints ...then when they click on our name they see we are still playing so what incentive do they have to listen to us..before changing a crystal that we have spent months on saving for kabam should consult with it’s player base

Dansakuduru

6 new champions + 18 ( luke cage , joe fix, she hulk ,venom ,antman, war machine, grooth, iron fist, kamala , iron patriot , iron man, HULK HOMO **** BUSTAR, red hulk, supirior Iron man, gambit , colossos, netflix DD, venompool...) that sounds great 15 k regularly acquire 5* a month the chance to get a good champion is geting even greater......
Or you can :
1. Tell us the odds so we know is it worth gambling
2. Give just more 5* shards

MSpawn

SO, curious to know.. how do you definitively know how many players were "saving for Blade" Is this admitting you know who sucks and who doesn't? Is that a basis used to manipulate the drop rates?

Atlas

What about morningstar that was going to come 8th february..??

Rasilover

So no more Hela , Taskmaster , Sentry, Void. etc reruns?
Also are new champs e.g Gladiator Hulk Killmonger Infinity Thanos etc. gonna have crystals on the first day for 15,000 shards with the regular 20% chance to pull the certain featured champ or will we have to wait for their 4 month rerun?

MishHammer84

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Just talked to the team, and they are comfortable with sharing the list of Champions we plan to include in the first Featured Champion Crystal. It's important to note that this list could still potentially change a little before the release, but the selected Champions are based on empirical data showing their effectiveness as 5-Star Champions in both Alliance Quests and Alliance Wars.

Beast
Storm
Cable
Cyclops (New Xavier School)
Thor (Ragnarok)
Taskmaster
Agent Venom
Hawkeye
Modok
Sentry
Void
Ant-Man
Mordo
Thor (Jane Foster)
Loki
Juggernaut
Hela
Phoenix
Ronan
Venompool
Nebula
Punisher (2099)
Civil Warrior
Doctor Octopus

Bold Text denotes Featured Champions.

It was generous of you to allow us the blade featured, but you should realize this crystal will not be bought by ANYONE. Though the people in tier 258 may be effective with those champions, the majority of the community is not. If we were able to vote on the forums and choose 12 champions out of the 18 in this crystal, the true overall effectiveness and community's desire of these champions would be revealed. Take this into consideration please...

NOOOOOOOOPEEEEE

After thinking over about this I feel like this change was unnecessary, I get that now getting 5* Versions of some champs has been more available due to updating the basic pool. But you could have just removed reruns and it would basically be the same. Sense the first featureds would give you a chance at that new 5*. Plus. Not everyone will be uncollected so this really screws those guys over.

MSpawn

MishHammer84 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Just talked to the team, and they are comfortable with sharing the list of Champions we plan to include in the first Featured Champion Crystal. It's important to note that this list could still potentially change a little before the release, but the selected Champions are based on empirical data showing their effectiveness as 5-Star Champions in both Alliance Quests and Alliance Wars.

Beast
Storm
Cable
Cyclops (New Xavier School)
Thor (Ragnarok)
Taskmaster
Agent Venom
Hawkeye
Modok
Sentry
Void
Ant-Man
Mordo
Thor (Jane Foster)
Loki
Juggernaut
Hela
Phoenix
Ronan
Venompool
Nebula
Punisher (2099)
Civil Warrior
Doctor Octopus

Bold Text denotes Featured Champions.

It was generous of you to allow us the blade featured, but you should realize this crystal will not be bought by ANYONE. Though the people in tier 258 may be effective with those champions, the majority of the community is not. If we were able to vote on the forums and choose 12 champions out of the 18 in this crystal, the true overall effectiveness and community's desire of these champions would be revealed. Take this into consideration please...

They have and don't seem to care!

SpiritOfVengeance

@MishHammer84
They are not considering anything they have their hearts set out on this master plan. Notice how the subject changes when a respond comes through.

Snizzbar

Also, nobody said they are the top Champions, and while player perception of these Champions may differ, these Champions are ones that people use to great success.

Troll level: EXPERT

Mmx1991

Eccohawk wrote: »

rwhack wrote: »

Here’s a solution. Quit making terrible champs.

No dev/designer is sitting around the Kabam offices, or any other gaming office, talking about ways to make terrible design decisions. This is an idiotic comment to make. These guys try to create cool, unique, interesting and balanced new characters to bring to the game EVERY TWO WEEKS!! Do some miss the mark at times? Sure. But don't sit there and pretend like they do it on purpose or set out to create a character that you feel plays like garbage. Show a little respect to the hard work being put in here.

How about showing a little respect to the hard being put in by the players who play 8 hours a day breaking their fingers grinding every arena for 6 months so they can save up for a feature?

Or to those who begrudgingly try their shot at a 2nd rate feature cause every awakening gem they got from every story quest was worthless and now they're forced to go for a champ that can make or break it for them?

Or to the many others who regularly get pissed on the by RNG gods going 3 for 30 on feature pulls who now have their odds diminished even further?

Blackhawkbill

Kabam Miike wrote: »

bradshaw84 wrote: »

Beast, Jane foster, Cyclops, Ronan, Loki, Phoenix, Venompool, civil warrior, ant man amongst the 18 best and most used in aq and aw? GTFOH!

Bold Text denotes Featured Champions.

I didn't say most used, but they are among the most effective. Cyclops actually scores very high on this list. There is a smaller group of players that use him, but they use him VERY effectively. [/quote]

In what tier of the player base were these stats pulled from? Lmfao!! Top alliances use NONE of those champs to be “effective” in either AQ or AW.....what a f%^*ing joke Mike....cmon lol

sbb75

@Kabam Miike Please give us a general overview of the type of data used from AW/AQ used for the list of 18. How can you possibly defend the list of Mystigs compared to the rest?

Champs with highest % of health remaining or died the least? .... Because they never fought? It's not because they are boss killers.
The people that use then really well probably use them for a synergy with a goof champ.

Maybe those were 18 champs with best Diversity. SMH!!