Which Defender is the most OP?

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• Tairique_turay0 Member Posts: 509 ★★★

  September 20

  In all honesty though… I hope we get a Necropolis 2.0 with Serpent, Enchantress, Onslaught & Bullseye all on the same path. That would be extremely fun.

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• Squidopus Member Posts: 665 ★★★★

  September 20

  I think Onslaught’s harder at base than Bullseye (can’t dodge neuroshocks like you can with bleed, Bullseye has more complete hard counters), but Bullseye tends to become much more overbearing than Onslaught with a lot of different nodes. Not sure where Enchantress fits in yet because I haven’t really had the (dis?)pleasure of fighting her much outside the EQ so I’m withholding judgment on her for now.

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 10,077 ★★★★★

  September 20

  Squidopus said:

  I think Onslaught’s harder at base than Bullseye (can’t dodge neuroshocks like you can with bleed, Bullseye has more complete hard counters), but Bullseye tends to become much more overbearing than Onslaught with a lot of different nodes. Not sure where Enchantress fits in yet because I haven’t really had the (dis?)pleasure of fighting her much outside the EQ so I’m withholding judgment on her for now.

  Still bullseye is tougher than onslaught. Atleast you can dex onslaught specials and dash back to remove neuros. Against bullsye you take a lot of bleed damage/block damage.

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• Cloudddey_bro Member Posts: 376 ★★★

  September 20

  The hardest thing about onslaught is his AI. If you get a good ai onslaught has a plethora of counters. A r3 bullseye is still going to take some of your health even using a bleed immune.

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 10,077 ★★★★★

  September 20

  In bgs, if anyone is finding difficulty Against Onslaught, all you need is a 6* r5 shocker.
  
  2 MLLLM combos, a relic, another combo, sp1, another combo, then sp2 (No need to bait any specials), dash in and throw a heavy. Even a r3 dies and this hardly takes 40 sec (and you lose like 5% health). Works everytime.

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• Ben_15455 Member Posts: 371 ★

  September 20

  I'm going to go enchatress just because I have no idea how to fight her

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• Nemesis_17 Member Posts: 2,471 ★★★★★

  September 20

  Serpent is a 7/5, bullseye is a 5.5/5, and everyone else is at a fair enough level

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• JackTheSnack Member Posts: 834 ★★★

  September 20

  Tairique_turay0 said:

  Serpent isn’t included because he’s in a realm of his own... an unbalanced realm of his own… (NERF HIM).

  None of the above. Serpent

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• Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,502 ★★★★★

  September 20

  captain_rogers said:

  In bgs, if anyone is finding difficulty Against Onslaught, all you need is a 6* r5 shocker.
  
  2 MLLLM combos, a relic, another combo, sp1, another combo, then sp2 (No need to bait any specials), dash in and throw a heavy. Even a r3 dies and this hardly takes 40 sec (and you lose like 5% health). Works everytime.

  All you need is her (I slipped up here too lol as you can tell by my health)
  
  
  

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• Squidopus Member Posts: 665 ★★★★

  September 20

  captain_rogers said:

  Squidopus said:

  I think Onslaught’s harder at base than Bullseye (can’t dodge neuroshocks like you can with bleed, Bullseye has more complete hard counters), but Bullseye tends to become much more overbearing than Onslaught with a lot of different nodes. Not sure where Enchantress fits in yet because I haven’t really had the (dis?)pleasure of fighting her much outside the EQ so I’m withholding judgment on her for now.

  Still bullseye is tougher than onslaught. Atleast you can dex onslaught specials and dash back to remove neuros. Against bullsye you take a lot of bleed damage/block damage.

  I did vote Bullseye as the harder defender because I don’t think Onslaught is that much harder at base and the nodes that can make Bullseye feel unbearable are quite commonplace. I just feel like Onslaught’s lack of a counter that shuts down basically everything the way NTW and Sinister do for Bullseye lifts him up just a tad, plus the fact that any champ with one of shock, incinerate, coldsnap, plasma, or parry reliance is basically dead in the water against an even moderately beefy Onslaught.

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 10,077 ★★★★★

  September 20

  Emilia90 said:

  captain_rogers said:

  In bgs, if anyone is finding difficulty Against Onslaught, all you need is a 6* r5 shocker.
  
  2 MLLLM combos, a relic, another combo, sp1, another combo, then sp2 (No need to bait any specials), dash in and throw a heavy. Even a r3 dies and this hardly takes 40 sec (and you lose like 5% health). Works everytime.

  All you need is her (I slipped up here too lol as you can tell by my health)
  
  
  

  Yeah she is another great counter. I'll just push onslaught to sp2, auto evade it, then throw my sp2 to end the fight. Between her and shocker, I have zero difficulty facing Onslaughts

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• JT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,250 ★★★★

  September 20

  I lose like 20% just by blocking bullseyes sp1. That alone is enough to lose the fight in bg.

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• Tairique_turay0 Member Posts: 509 ★★★

  September 20

  @JT_Supreme That’s a fact.

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• Moosetiptronic Member Posts: 2,165 ★★★★

  September 20

  It will be interesting to revisit the results of this in a month or so.

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• EdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,182 ★★★★★

  September 21

  The Bully

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• Barrier Reef Member Posts: 769 ★★★

  September 21 edited September 21

  Bullseye 🎯 1000%. He’s just so shifty, and his damage is inevitable. That chip damage is insane.

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• PT_99 Member Posts: 4,802 ★★★★★

  September 21

  Fact that Bullseye sp1 is literally impossible to dex 100% of times, even after mastering it, is so bad
  No matter if you bring bleed immune that 7r3 pierce stat Bullseye will eat away your health.
  
  So I just use Kitty, 1 intercept and just let him hit my phase and sp3 spam, not the fastest but wins most of the times.

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• J0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★

  September 22 edited September 22

  Funny how Bullseye leading the poll.
  - His specials are very difficult to dex, I’d say for majority it’s undexable. Chip damage guaranteed.
  - He has guaranteed crits and through block so chip damage increase.
  - If you don’t have bleed immunity or resistance, chip damage overflow.
  - Finally, an annoying AAR immunity evade to deal with if you fully want to cover all your bases.
  - Now add nodes to this for a fun time. Pick some node combo from these: Footloose, aspect of evolution, stun immunity, Be like water, Bubble shield, combat Deja Vu - Unblockable.
  
  Keep in mind that Enchantress is still new and quite a few more other champs. A good amount of players have slowed down ranking 6stars to r5 and are waiting to pulling them as 7stars. We will seeing how tough these champions are soon, like Arcade and co.

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• hungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,230 ★★★★★

  September 22 edited September 22

  We placed a 5 star Enchantress in a tier 2 war (most defenders are R3 -7 or max 6) just to see what would happen.. she got kills:)
  I'm no expert, but this signals a need for retuning possibly - but shes still newish

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