Raid Prowler

Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
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ok, how do you HIT him after he uses his specials.......because i dunno how....

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  • ShuGokisShuGokis Member Posts: 790 ★★★
    Lol I forgot about this.. Is there not a node or something that counters the miss he gets? or is it really just a matter of you can't punish the specials..
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    That's the neat part.... You can't.

    You need to get the vigilance, but to get the vigilance you need to complete raid mission, which here is punishing specials, which you can't do cuz he'll miss it 😂.

    In all seriousness, punish his heavy twice to get vigilance, then you can start your rotation.

    Well he is low health, tried it but needed 4x punish heavy before i gain 1 role charge =vigilance...... this is gonna be worse than MODOK ...... but i live i guess.

    Thanks a lot
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    Well, on lane 456 (middle)
    Hood was normal and easy to deal with
  • ShuGokisShuGokis Member Posts: 790 ★★★
    Yagami9999 said:

    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    Well, on lane 456 (middle)
    Hood was normal and easy to deal with
    That is good to hear, I am currently middle so knowing at least one boss will be fine to deal with is nice.
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    For Invisible Woman, the Shield is a bad design.
    if you hit her during phase and miss, she add +10 per hit and going 120 or 130 charge and takes forever to reduce the Shield (about 2k damage per 1 shield down)
    and you can only do damage after the shield is down but the timer is very short
    some champions are good, those with bleed and DOT (i believe)

    For Prowler, only lane 456 is bad design due to the node which only gives you charges when you hit/punish after heavy/SP (which is impossible) but like what i did, you can bait 4x heavy and then with vigilance, hit him/punish during specials.

    Haven't reach Prof X (still mulling over Prowler) but some alliances have finished.
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    ShuGokis said:

    Yagami9999 said:

    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    Well, on lane 456 (middle)
    Hood was normal and easy to deal with
    That is good to hear, I am currently middle so knowing at least one boss will be fine to deal with is nice.
    Don't get hit tough lolz
    Hood's timer charges intant KO my 7r2 Angela 70% health with 3x charge
  • ShuGokisShuGokis Member Posts: 790 ★★★
    edited October 2024
    Yagami9999 said:

    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    For Invisible Woman, the Shield is a bad design.
    if you hit her during phase and miss, she add +10 per hit and going 120 or 130 charge and takes forever to reduce the Shield (about 2k damage per 1 shield down)
    and you can only do damage after the shield is down but the timer is very short
    some champions are good, those with bleed and DOT (i believe)

    For Prowler, only lane 456 is bad design due to the node which only gives you charges when you hit/punish after heavy/SP (which is impossible) but like what i did, you can bait 4x heavy and then with vigilance, hit him/punish during specials.

    Haven't reach Prof X (still mulling over Prowler) but some alliances have finished.
    456 is middle path right? If so that is just awful to hear especially with prowler, not only we have invisible woman first we then have to deal with the nodes on prowler?? (ok so it isn't as bad as it seems) just 2 heavies and you're set.
    Yagami9999 said:

    ShuGokis said:

    Yagami9999 said:

    ShuGokis said:

    So apart from invisible woman and Prowler is there actually a boss that doesn't have some awful design where you can do the fight as intended? I haven't seen much about Hood or Prof X yet..?

    Well, on lane 456 (middle)
    Hood was normal and easy to deal with
    That is good to hear, I am currently middle so knowing at least one boss will be fine to deal with is nice.
    Don't get hit tough lolz
    Hood's timer charges intant KO my 7r2 Angela 70% health with 3x charge
    Im vanguard so I don't think that would happen to silk but who knows lol
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    yes, 456 is middle island

    For Susan, try not hit (+miss) when she is phased, and once you can get max role charges, spam everything to prolong the fight to break the shield.
  • GhAsTaGhAsTa Member Posts: 10 ★
    Really dont understand how kabam plan?punish after sp/heavy,no charge??
  • ShuGokisShuGokis Member Posts: 790 ★★★
    GhAsTa said:

    Really dont understand how kabam plan?punish after sp/heavy,no charge??

    Karatemike said on the forums you punish his heavy a few times for the Vigilance buff then you can play like normal punishing specials.
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  • The_Curd_BrosThe_Curd_Bros Member Posts: 161 ★
    Yeah this is terrible design. They had to know it would be nearly impossible for middle lane players. It amazes me they either overlooked this or just didn’t care. Putting prowler in a mode where you are forced to punish specials but literally can’t is just to punitive. I guess you “can” punish 4 heavies but that is a big ask for a lot of players and needs the AI to cooperate. Just another miss by Kabam.
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 152 ★
    GhAsTa said:

    Really dont understand how kabam plan?punish after sp/heavy,no charge??

    gotta look at your raid buff also

    example you use Nick Fury with Dot Boost

    you can punish all the heavies and SP since you can't miss
    But Prowler is bleed immune so he's not getting any debuff = you not getting any charges :#

    so you need to intercept to get debilitate debuff on prowler, then intercept his heavy and SP

    ............er.......... Good luck lolz
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  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Member Posts: 4,127 ★★★★★
    You can’t which has made white tiger completely useless against him right now. I no longer feel like playing raids.
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Punish his heavy to get vigilance. Took a couple tries to figure it out
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,210 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    This mf always gets "knock me down"
    Doesn't help when he uses heavy and his animation backs him off

    Whoever thought adding prowler in raids is good idea?
    It's bad, no testing again I guess.

    Why he's getting "knock me down" 3 times in a row?

    It isn't ideal. He's bad for two of the node setups. Hard to knock down because you have to reparry, heavy counter or potentially waste specials before you can really deal damage.
    Or you can have the option of punish specials or heavies and take a ton of chip damage punishing heavies before you can actually punish specials. Not ideal.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,720 ★★★★★
    TikkaMasala said:

    These changes have ruined the best game mode remaining. It’s a shame. I won’t be doing Raids next time with this setup. It’s not enjoyable. Another strike against kabam…

    I dunno… I’ve always viewed Raids as a deeply flawed mode that succeeds more due to its high reward payout and the fact that it’s a reprieve from the more deeply flawed AQ game mode
  • StrongestHippoStrongestHippo Member Posts: 6 ★
    TikkaMasala said:

    These changes have ruined the best game mode remaining. It’s a shame. I won’t be doing Raids next time with this setup. It’s not enjoyable. Another strike against kabam…

    I was nearing the point of not bothering with Raids before these changes, the rewards aren't with the tokens imo. If these fights stay the same this will be my last raid week.
  • kus234kus234 Member Posts: 387 ★★★
    Just quit.. that's what we r doing..
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Member Posts: 4,127 ★★★★★
    Nojokejaym said:

    You can’t which has made white tiger completely useless against him right now. I no longer feel like playing raids.

    Nvm white tiger works fine for him lol
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 544 ★★★
    I know this will only help Vanguards, but Ironheart is a cheat code. She bypasses miss and falter with only 5 debuffs (which are stupid easy to place), and is a monster. My 7R3 was doing almost max damage without any charges at all.
  • Awesomep12Awesomep12 Member Posts: 1,667 ★★★★
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  • Supersha7Supersha7 Member Posts: 320 ★★★
    Yup , Ironheart rocks prowler, hood and iw
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