Thoughts on gwenpool?

Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 399 ★★★
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If you’ve seen the recent livestream then you know we will be getting a free 7* gwenpool along with 9 others (paragon +) , I think it’s amazing but my question is how does gwenpool in particular hold up these days, would she be worth r2 or just a fun additional character to your roster
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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,665 ★★★★★
    Decent champion, maybe useful in BGs but she's bleed reliant. If she had a way to deal with bleed immune, she'd be better
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    You can completely power lock opponent if you play right.
  • SagaChampionSagaChampion Member Posts: 1,348 ★★★
    Good thought
  • RenaxqqRenaxqq Member Posts: 1,639 ★★★★
    Good champ but must be duped for utility
  • 713_o_f1673r713_o_f1673r Member Posts: 385 ★★
    They should put something related to 4th wall manipulation in her kit.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 707 ★★★★
    I haven’t used her in years but I remember there was something niche and cool about her defensive AAR. Was it -2% for every hit on the combo meter…?


  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,319 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I haven’t used her in years but I remember there was something niche and cool about her defensive AAR. Was it -2% for every hit on the combo meter…?


    That is the most unspecific ability I have ever seen lmao reduces up to what -8% or -800 percent like what
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 707 ★★★★
    lol, true. I’ll try to think of a good fight to test it.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,319 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    lol, true. I’ll try to think of a good fight to test it.

    Fight thing. Look at how many rock stacks he gains. That should be a goodish indicator of roughly how much. If he stops gaining completely, it is likely over 100 percent
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,319 ★★★★★
    Pretty sure thing is one of the first fights in abyss
  • The_beast123The_beast123 Member Posts: 2,153 ★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    lol, true. I’ll try to think of a good fight to test it.

    If you can, try against some Longshot, I think he has 300% ability accuracy or something? Also proxima reducing 200% Offensive AAR can be considered a defensive mech if we're fighting her right?
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I haven’t used her in years but I remember there was something niche and cool about her defensive AAR. Was it -2% for every hit on the combo meter…?


    That is the most unspecific ability I have ever seen lmao reduces up to what -8% or -800 percent like what
    This is due to shes a 2017 champ who came with cable
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I haven’t used her in years but I remember there was something niche and cool about her defensive AAR. Was it -2% for every hit on the combo meter…?


    And yes 2% per combo 50 combo is 100%
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 330 ★★★
    edited November 2
    Renaxqq said:

    Good champ but must be duped for utility


    She can completely power lock unduped lol
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 330 ★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I haven’t used her in years but I remember there was something niche and cool about her defensive AAR. Was it -2% for every hit on the combo meter…?


    That is the most unspecific ability I have ever seen lmao reduces up to what -8% or -800 percent like what

    2% per hit, so 50 hits reduces AA by 100%
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    Cloudddey_bro said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Decent champion, maybe useful in BGs but she's bleed reliant. If she had a way to deal with bleed immune, she'd be better

    Venom doesn’t have a way to deal with bleed immune yet everybody still glazes him
    Venom hit hard against bleed immunes too, big yellow numbers, but I agree champs who solely rely on bleed doesn't need something to deal with bleed immunes.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    Cloudddey_bro said:

    Renaxqq said:

    Good champ but must be duped for utility


    She can completely power lock unduped lol
    Yeah that is very underrated ability not really useful for bgs but useful elsewhere if you stay aggressive she can completely power lock the opponent.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Cloudddey_bro said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Decent champion, maybe useful in BGs but she's bleed reliant. If she had a way to deal with bleed immune, she'd be better

    Venom doesn’t have a way to deal with bleed immune yet everybody still glazes him
    Venom hit hard against bleed immunes too, big yellow numbers, but I agree champs who solely rely on bleed doesn't need something to deal with bleed immunes.
    Well gp armor break is and was very potent where against bleed immunes she would hit hard still
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Cloudddey_bro said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Decent champion, maybe useful in BGs but she's bleed reliant. If she had a way to deal with bleed immune, she'd be better

    Venom doesn’t have a way to deal with blShe aed immune yet everybody still glazes him
    Venom hit hard against bleed immunes too, big yellow numbers, but I agree champs who solely rely on bleed doesn't need something to deal with bleed immunes.
    Well gp armor break is and was very potent where against bleed immunes she would hit hard still
    She also has good incinerate on sp1. She may get a resurgence like spam as a 7*.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Bendy said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Cloudddey_bro said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Decent champion, maybe useful in BGs but she's bleed reliant. If she had a way to deal with bleed immune, she'd be better

    Venom doesn’t have a way to deal with blShe aed immune yet everybody still glazes him
    Venom hit hard against bleed immunes too, big yellow numbers, but I agree champs who solely rely on bleed doesn't need something to deal with bleed immunes.
    Well gp armor break is and was very potent where against bleed immunes she would hit hard still
    She also has good incinerate on sp1. She may get a resurgence like spam as a 7*.
    Still would like just a little more bleed rng since when they added her they gave her infinite bleeds but it was never possible to get 99
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,048 ★★★★
    She never had any use as a 6*, she will continue that trend as a 7*. plain and simple lol
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 838 ★★★★
    Just wondering if gwen is bugged right now. Decided to take her for a spin in ROL in anticipation of her upcoming 7 star and I noticed that the heavy pretty much never inflicts new bleeds. I know it says the final hit has a 5% chance if there isn't one there already, but there is also supposed to be a 30% chance to cause a bleed on all attacks, and honestly, that just doesn't happen. I imagine it could be deliberate since once you get an sp2 off you could just endlessly heavy spam in the corner, but it really seems likes from the wording that each hit of the heavy should have a 30% chance.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    Ortoun said:

    Just wondering if gwen is bugged right now. Decided to take her for a spin in ROL in anticipation of her upcoming 7 star and I noticed that the heavy pretty much never inflicts new bleeds. I know it says the final hit has a 5% chance if there isn't one there already, but there is also supposed to be a 30% chance to cause a bleed on all attacks, and honestly, that just doesn't happen. I imagine it could be deliberate since once you get an sp2 off you could just endlessly heavy spam in the corner, but it really seems likes from the wording that each hit of the heavy should have a 30% chance.

    Its just rng
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    Ortoun said:

    Just wondering if gwen is bugged right now. Decided to take her for a spin in ROL in anticipation of her upcoming 7 star and I noticed that the heavy pretty much never inflicts new bleeds. I know it says the final hit has a 5% chance if there isn't one there already, but there is also supposed to be a 30% chance to cause a bleed on all attacks, and honestly, that just doesn't happen. I imagine it could be deliberate since once you get an sp2 off you could just endlessly heavy spam in the corner, but it really seems likes from the wording that each hit of the heavy should have a 30% chance.

    I believe only lights and mediums have 30 % chance to inflict bleeds. And you're better throwing off heavies when opponent already have a bleed, to replace it with a stronger bleed. She is not a heavy spam in the corner champ, she is more like magik, intercept and keep the opponent in the corner type champ.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 838 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Ortoun said:

    Just wondering if gwen is bugged right now. Decided to take her for a spin in ROL in anticipation of her upcoming 7 star and I noticed that the heavy pretty much never inflicts new bleeds. I know it says the final hit has a 5% chance if there isn't one there already, but there is also supposed to be a 30% chance to cause a bleed on all attacks, and honestly, that just doesn't happen. I imagine it could be deliberate since once you get an sp2 off you could just endlessly heavy spam in the corner, but it really seems likes from the wording that each hit of the heavy should have a 30% chance.

    I believe only lights and mediums have 30 % chance to inflict bleeds. And you're better throwing off heavies when opponent already have a bleed, to replace it with a stronger bleed. She is not a heavy spam in the corner champ, she is more like magik, intercept and keep the opponent in the corner type champ.
    I thought it was something like that, but like I said, the first block of her abilities literally says all attacks have 30% chance for bleed. It's fine that it's not, as that is honestly a whole new level of cheese, but would be nice if descriptions matched actual abilities
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,979 ★★★★★
    Ortoun said:

    Just wondering if gwen is bugged right now. Decided to take her for a spin in ROL in anticipation of her upcoming 7 star and I noticed that the heavy pretty much never inflicts new bleeds. I know it says the final hit has a 5% chance if there isn't one there already, but there is also supposed to be a 30% chance to cause a bleed on all attacks, and honestly, that just doesn't happen. I imagine it could be deliberate since once you get an sp2 off you could just endlessly heavy spam in the corner, but it really seems likes from the wording that each hit of the heavy should have a 30% chance.

    That's literally why the chance on herHeavy attack is so low: when she was released, you actually could SP2, and then spam Heavies forever.

    She got rebalanced, years before that was a thing.
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