No Rebalancing for Deathless Vision

RockSlydeRockSlyde Member Posts: 60 ★
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I was hoping to see some info on a tune up for Deathless Vision with the latest balance post on Arcade and Northstar, since it's widely agreed that he's falling short of general community expectations. While I understand that Deathless champs are intended more as a trophy champ and might not receive the same power levels as a normal champ would, I was still hoping that some tweaks would be sent his way.

I think I remember seeing Deathless Guillotine mentioned in a balance post a while back, but I don't remember if DKG got the same treatment. If so, it seems like Kabam has stopped considering the Deathless champs for rebalancing. I guess this is ok since they're just freebie trophy champs used to eventually unlock Deathless Thanos, but I think it would be very unfortunate to leave such a cool champ in the state he's in now.

Trophy champs like JJ and Weapon X are both fun and powerful, so if the Deathless champs could have even a fraction of that potency, I think the community would be very grateful.

#BuffDV

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  • HuskerCoolHuskerCool Member Posts: 258 ★★★
    Did DVision come out around the same time as Arcade/Northstar?
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 555 ★★★
    We have heard no indication about what changes if any Kabam has for even Deathless KG, let alone Vision. I’m all for a buff to DV, but there’s no reason to sound the alarm yet that Kabam is neglecting him. The NTW/Sable balancing post mentions that champs that are buffed or who have unique acquisition methods are basically considered for rebalancing as time allows. I bet that due to the glorious guardian reworks the balancing team probably just hasn’t had the time to give a full review of Deathless KG and Vision yet. Give it some more time and we’ll see what happens.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,580 ★★★★★
    Magrailothos said:

    Deathless King Groot came out alongside Spider-Punk and Prowler; which would make his rebalancing info over two months late.

    I'm hoping that this is because they're going to take rebalance data from the point at which people were able to Awaken their Deathless champions in SOS/WoW milestones; which was 2-3 months after his release.

    Was only a month after i believe since we got him then sos came around and onslaught week happened which i believe was only a month after release
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,646 ★★★★★
    D vision slaps. He is niche but is good at whatever he does imo.
  • Newman0067Newman0067 Member Posts: 139 ★★
    captain_rogers said:

    D vision slaps. He is niche but is good at whatever he does imo.

    At the end of the day, all deathless are missing the team synergy that they've been building up. Yeah building the team of 5 deathless won't always be practical but we really need to wait and see what their exact power is when teamed as intended
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,687 ★★★★★
    Newman0067 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    D vision slaps. He is niche but is good at whatever he does imo.

    At the end of the day, all deathless are missing the team synergy that they've been building up. Yeah building the team of 5 deathless won't always be practical but we really need to wait and see what their exact power is when teamed as intended
    If you check their pages there are synergies missing
  • Newman0067Newman0067 Member Posts: 139 ★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Newman0067 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    D vision slaps. He is niche but is good at whatever he does imo.

    At the end of the day, all deathless are missing the team synergy that they've been building up. Yeah building the team of 5 deathless won't always be practical but we really need to wait and see what their exact power is when teamed as intended
    If you check their pages there are synergies missing
    Exactly, so running the 4 with complete synergies plus whatever Thanos might give them may be too powerful, hence why they (mainly Vision) seem a little underwhelming at the moment
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,471 ★★★
    RockSlyde said:

    Newman0067 said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Newman0067 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    D vision slaps. He is niche but is good at whatever he does imo.

    At the end of the day, all deathless are missing the team synergy that they've been building up. Yeah building the team of 5 deathless won't always be practical but we really need to wait and see what their exact power is when teamed as intended
    If you check their pages there are synergies missing
    Exactly, so running the 4 with complete synergies plus whatever Thanos might give them may be too powerful, hence why they (mainly Vision) seem a little underwhelming at the moment
    Designing a champion's strength around a 5 man synergy team is a very poor way to balance a champ imo. The goal should be to make them solid enough to stand on their own, and then make them even better with a synergy team. Mr. Fantastic and the Fantastic Four is a great example of this. He's a great champ on his own with tons of utility and ramp up damage, but when fully synergized he gets a void-like effect which brings his damage up even more. I don't get the same feeling from Vision, it feels like he can't stand on his own as a champ currently
    Except these champions were designed and advertised as being built around being used on a team together
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