60fps… the AI felt good but has gone back to sour

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  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,075 ★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Thanks for calling me a top player

    Honestly I suck and haven’t noticed an issue sooo maybe some of you think you’re better than you actually are?….yikes
    Have you cleared act 4 or still in act 3? What level monthly quest do you play? Contender or proven? I guess once you progress a bit, you will start seeing what everyone is talking about.
    I find the forums to be a much better place just putting these people in the ignore list.
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,157 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Honestly I suck
    I believe him guys. Case closed.
    And still don’t whine about the AI like you 🤷🏼‍♂️
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 382 ★★★
    60 fps +AI, i think game now sucks very bad… It seems just impossible to have fun nowadays.
  • BmanBman Member Posts: 277 ★★
    Literally sent in a ticket 5 days ago about exact same dam thing!!! Still have no response?!?! Game was soooo smooth for 2-3 days after 60fps, just took some adjusting (but was happy didn’t have issues). Since then? OMG it’s all the exact same thing!!! AI issues. Honestly still pissed it’s more about same issues from 8yrs ago. Swipe forward, and randomly go backwards? 5 hit combo stops after 1-2 hits and get SMASHED?!?! Do 5 hit combo, and randomly last hit does NOT hit as I do special?!? Gets blocked. Then SMASHED!!!
  • BmanBman Member Posts: 277 ★★
    Was thinking, truly HOPING maybe CRASHED and a few other additions would help make game better (more playable). Sadly, nothing had actually changed!! Blame myself for even hoping things may get better. Been 8yrs of same BS. I’ll stop there
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★★
    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Honestly I suck
    I believe him guys. Case closed.
    And still don’t whine about the AI like you 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Just about everyone else. What's the word for that again... sociopath?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,104 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 443
    #bringunits-manback
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,075 ★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,104 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
    No, your first comment also included the term. It's like you think everyone has the same issue. To them, the AI is probably fine. I have very little issues with it myself though there are times when defender dash in speeds on occasion seem faster and I can't intercept like normal, but it's been nearly impossible for me to capture on video.

    Stop calling people white knights. It's just stupid. Not everyone has the same problems as you and people aren't required to feel the same as you. People are allowed to have their opinion without you feeling the need to label them.
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,157 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Honestly I suck
    I believe him guys. Case closed.
    And still don’t whine about the AI like you 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Just about everyone else. What's the word for that again... sociopath?
    To be fair all I said was the AI was fine. You guys decided to make it personal. Sounds more sociopathic on your side than mine 😂
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,104 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    But I did said on first day of 60fps change that Kabam will tune up the AI speed to 1.3x soon

    Recover time, dashing time and light intercepts have gone back to what they were in 30fps, it can't be coincidence at this point.

    I blame every single one who cried, "wahhh game is too slow now wahh"
    Well congrats, you got your jittery AI again

    I hate to break it to you but that just isn't how it works. A.I timing isn't something that is tuned in real time my guy. Any sort of changes would have to be layered into a patch either the monthly one or a hotfix style patch. They aren't like rewards that can just appear in your mailbox.

    So if you weren't experiencing it from the initial launch, you aren't experiencing it now.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,104 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
    No, your first comment also included the term. It's like you think everyone has the same issue. To them, the AI is probably fine. I have very little issues with it myself though there are times when defender dash in speeds on occasion seem faster and I can't intercept like normal, but it's been nearly impossible for me to capture on video.

    Stop calling people white knights. It's just stupid. Not everyone has the same problems as you and people aren't required to feel the same as you. People are allowed to have their opinion without you feeling the need to label them.
    A masterclass in not reading a response and having no idea which person you’re responding to. Bravo.
    You're right, I confused you both. You two are fairly identical in how you speak on here. You both use that term constantly and constantly act the same way. 🤷
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,104 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
    No, your first comment also included the term. It's like you think everyone has the same issue. To them, the AI is probably fine. I have very little issues with it myself though there are times when defender dash in speeds on occasion seem faster and I can't intercept like normal, but it's been nearly impossible for me to capture on video.

    Stop calling people white knights. It's just stupid. Not everyone has the same problems as you and people aren't required to feel the same as you. People are allowed to have their opinion without you feeling the need to label them.
    A masterclass in not reading a response and having no idea which person you’re responding to. Bravo.
    You're right, I confused you both. You two are fairly identical in how you speak on here. You both use that term constantly and constantly act the same way. 🤷
    Oh so you just read the name and respond? We totally disagree on this topic… That gives me great insight into how you behave in these forums 🤔
    I've had enough experience with you and Ox to faithfully say that if the names were taken away, I'd never be able to tell who wrote what. You both use White Night like it's going out of style.

    But yeah, I thought you were Ox when I responded to your comment. 🤷
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,395 ★★★★★
    edited November 22

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    I’m just fine with other perspectives but this fair criticism, as I have been making that accusation a lot recently.

    But as to your question, it’s a term I’ll resort to when the opposing argument tends to be flippant and trends on the side of “git gud” and “skill issue”. In fairness those people are just as likely to be trolls rather than willfully blind contrarians. And most probably spend more time here than actually playing the game.

    In either case I’ve been around long enough to argue with both and resorting to the “white knighting” pejorative is just me saying it’s not a conversation worth having with that person as we are unlikely to agree and I’m not here to “dunk on em”.

    Really I’m just trying to provide my feedback on issues like this to the team. As the game was playing much cleaner when 60fps was first introduced, but the AI is back up to light speed seizure setting and I’m curious as to what changed.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,395 ★★★★★
    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Honestly I suck
    I believe him guys. Case closed.
    And still don’t whine about the AI like you 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Just about everyone else. What's the word for that again... sociopath?
    To be fair all I said was the AI was fine. You guys decided to make it personal. Sounds more sociopathic on your side than mine 😂
    You might wanna go back and reread… because that just ain’t true.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,395 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
    No, your first comment also included the term. It's like you think everyone has the same issue. To them, the AI is probably fine. I have very little issues with it myself though there are times when defender dash in speeds on occasion seem faster and I can't intercept like normal, but it's been nearly impossible for me to capture on video.

    Stop calling people white knights. It's just stupid. Not everyone has the same problems as you and people aren't required to feel the same as you. People are allowed to have their opinion without you feeling the need to label them.
    A masterclass in not reading a response and having no idea which person you’re responding to. Bravo.
    You're right, I confused you both. You two are fairly identical in how you speak on here. You both use that term constantly and constantly act the same way. 🤷
    Oh so you just read the name and respond? We totally disagree on this topic… That gives me great insight into how you behave in these forums 🤔
    I've had enough experience with you and Ox to faithfully say that if the names were taken away, I'd never be able to tell who wrote what. You both use White Night like it's going out of style.

    But yeah, I thought you were Ox when I responded to your comment. 🤷
    This is where the white knighting accusations lands firmly though. Now I’m wishing I didn’t waste my time on the other response man. Enjoy the cape dude.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,775 ★★★★★
    edited November 22

    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yep definitely worthless white knighting with nothing of value to add to the discussion.
    Why is is no one can disagree with you without you calling them a "white knight"?
    That's reserved for people who don't appear to disagree in good faith. In the same way, you're disingenuously responding to a response that was triggered by a "skill issue" post.

    On topic, other than than losing medium intercepts, I'm not seeing the issues that are directly attributable to 60FPS. Even on day 1 of 60FPS, the AI has been the same. Furthermore, I don't particularly mind the AI, I just wish they wouldn't let it walk into light range without dashing.

    I'm definitely feeling less of the "AI is in hyper speed" feeling. Haven't really noticed it at all. I guess the framerate was a lot of the issue afterall (in my case).
    No, your first comment also included the term. It's like you think everyone has the same issue. To them, the AI is probably fine. I have very little issues with it myself though there are times when defender dash in speeds on occasion seem faster and I can't intercept like normal, but it's been nearly impossible for me to capture on video.

    Stop calling people white knights. It's just stupid. Not everyone has the same problems as you and people aren't required to feel the same as you. People are allowed to have their opinion without you feeling the need to label them.
    Ah so you're saying that this is all a skill issue then, and that we should adapt?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,775 ★★★★★
    I personally feel like the AI is becoming more passive than ever, refusing to dash and making intercepting much more difficult than it has been, anyone else feeling the same?
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,157 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Typhoon said:

    OGAvenger said:

    The AI is fine

    Said the blind man to a tree.
    Nah at this point you guys would complain about the AI no matter what. I didn’t say the AI was perfect but it is most definitely fine
    If you play with 60 FPS, you'd know that the AI is winning intercepts that they shouldn't be. You could call it fine, if you like getting slapped around. Fetish?
    Haven’t witnessed any of that but go off 🙄 sounds like a sKiLl IsSuE
    Yeah. Andy, Trappy, and the myriad of top players have noticed and called this out. So if all of us but you have noticed it, maybe it’s you. 👀
    Honestly I suck
    I believe him guys. Case closed.
    And still don’t whine about the AI like you 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Just about everyone else. What's the word for that again... sociopath?
    To be fair all I said was the AI was fine. You guys decided to make it personal. Sounds more sociopathic on your side than mine 😂
    You might wanna go back and reread… because that just ain’t true.
    It is actually VERY true. The very first thing I said was “The AI is fine”. Nothing else. Just that. Nice and simple. That was literally the whole comment
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,360 ★★★★★
    I had to buy a portable charger or energy bank... Yay 60 fps, that's 40 bucks you aint getting from me on CM Kabam 😤
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