What happened to Beta Ray Bill?

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,062 ★★★★★
edited December 18 in General Discussion
I remember the hype around him when he was first released, we saw the insane damage, the utility, etc. Months have passed and no one is using him. I know some of the BG metas may not have favored him but still, I don't see anyone using him whatsoever. Has he simply been forgotten or are people sleeping on him currently?
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  • LokxLokx Member Posts: 1,406 ★★★★
    I still like mine, was able to use him for quite a few lanes in the 9.2 beta. He is tricky trying to get comfortable with his light attacks but once you get him down he does light work. It’s a shame that bg meta do not favour him as much.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,093 ★★★★★
    edited December 18
    Wolf911 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Ourobøros said:

    In order to use him, we need ai cooperation and good rng, besides the skill, and some of the latest content lacks most of it.

    ^^ add on that he isnt really great for the bgs metas lately and man has been doomed from the start
    the previous few BG metas were not good for him

    he wasn’t made to be a BG champ anyways

    BUT this meta hell yeah

    I have been using him a LOT

    sp2 then sp1 loop does the job for most tech champs

    he is my go to counter for FAM, Red skull, Peni etc this victory track meta

    mine is unduped r2
    that’s stil very slow that’s 3 sp you need to bait

  • BeastDadBeastDad Member Posts: 1,942 ★★★★★
    He's in the very good but not elite category, that is mostly the reason.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,635 ★★★★
    He has a few things that he can do really well and some great damage, he's the best option for a few matches and that's about where he lands
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,492 ★★★★
    I don't enjoy using him at all, and that is more just how his playstyle feel as opposed to how good he is.

    Shocks on light attacks seem to rarely get placed. I know there is a low chance, but I do multiple full combos of light attacks and have no shocks apply. Armor buff removal seems less impressive than on first glance, since only the first Medium does anything. So if you are in a armor control matchup (like a Red Skull), the amount of shortened combos or backdraft intercepts and how much power is gained, that makes for a longer fight than it should be. Charging heavy is a gamble with the Defender AI behaving inconsistently. I know his specials are designed to take into account the timer of the shock, but I feel my hair turning gray just waiting for his special animations to end.

    He does great damage with his SP2-SP1 rotation. But it just doesn't feel very smooth to play, since I have to tack on several seconds of charging my heavy before my SP2, and then several seconds of medium attacks before my SP1. There are a bunch of other champions where everything feels like it flows much better (Eg. Vox, my favorite Cosmic of the past two years)
  • Fit_Fun9329Fit_Fun9329 Member Posts: 2,196 ★★★★★
    Hes a clunky dude for sure
  • The_beast123The_beast123 Member Posts: 2,171 ★★★★
    I thought I could say something for him but damn. Damn.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 857 ★★★★
    Fun in vanilla matchups. When you get into a complex fight, the demands of his rotation / timers just become too aggravating. Not to mention his huge burst can be kneecapped by damage caps in content like Necro / Carinas.

    I expect he will find a niche (or several) over time but he’s not going to be a heavily used champ for me.
  • IAmGrO_ot78IAmGrO_ot78 Member Posts: 53 ★
    He’s not a nuke option or even a decent defender in BG, so he won’t be ranked at my account. He also doesn't have a niche function, where he's the only option for a troublesome defender, or an attacker who counters many defenders better than other cosmics. So he remains a good attacker, who unfortunately stands in the shadow of other cosmics and collects dust.
  • DarkNightRiseDarkNightRise Member Posts: 407 ★★★
    I guessed so many people here dropped 25$ for him now regret lol
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    edited December 18
    DarkNightRise said:

    I guessed so many people here dropped 25$ for him now regret lol


    Why? Over getting a bunch of stuff & a 7* for 25? No regret here...
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,413 ★★★★★
    Shock chance is too low and his pulverize isn't nearly as useful on 1st Medium as it would be on Hammer hits.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    People dropped him in favour of the Alpha Ray Bill

    Lmao
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    Fun in vanilla matchups. When you get into a complex fight, the demands of his rotation / timers just become too aggravating. Not to mention his huge burst can be kneecapped by damage caps in content like Necro / Carinas.

    I expect he will find a niche (or several) over time but he’s not going to be a heavily used champ for me.

    What does "Vanilla" matchups mean?
  • Jcarlos_2902Jcarlos_2902 Member Posts: 18 ★
    I use him everywhere
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,702 ★★★★★
    I was starting to think the champs linked to these passes are cursed given bill and michael midbius.

    Dazzler actually looks to be good tho on the bright side (might be why the sudden shift of value of champ they put in the pass)
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,635 ★★★★
    IAmGrO_ot78 said:

    He’s not a nuke option or even a decent defender in BG, so he won’t be ranked at my account. He also doesn't have a niche function, where he's the only option for a troublesome defender, or an attacker who counters many defenders better than other cosmics. So he remains a good attacker, who unfortunately stands in the shadow of other cosmics and collects dust.

    He does though, he's specifically a great red skull counter
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,635 ★★★★
    BigPoppaCBONE said:

    Shock chance is too low and his pulverize isn't nearly as useful on 1st Medium as it would be on Hammer hits.

    The rng shocks are inessential compared to the guaranteed sp2 shocks which was the intended way to build them
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,413 ★★★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    BigPoppaCBONE said:

    Shock chance is too low and his pulverize isn't nearly as useful on 1st Medium as it would be on Hammer hits.

    The rng shocks are inessential compared to the guaranteed sp2 shocks which was the intended way to build them
    I'm assuming that they are meant to be used, but not for stacking to cash out. They provide damage over time and burst damage outside of specials and work well with recoil, but like I said, 10% chance is too low.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,062 ★★★★★
    DarkNightRise said:

    I guessed so many people here dropped 25$ for him now regret lol

    Not everyone though I think
  • Bigfoot33Bigfoot33 Member Posts: 204 ★★
    The bigger reason in my opinion is there are at least 5 cosmic champs that bring more to the table and easier to use. Speaking for myself, I'd rather use others.
  • psp742psp742 Member Posts: 2,648 ★★★★
    Too many op cosmic that overshadow BRB, he needs to place shock on opponents (if they are shock immune, his damage is greatly gimped).. place shock on opponent, sp2 has greater chance to place more shock.. medium medium to make the shock expire faster (do this when you have one bar of power.. as the shock trickle down fire away on sp1 to do great damage.. repeat cycle until opponent has zero hp.

    he is better awaken, the damage is boosted by sigs level.
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