What makes a champion good and what makes at champion trash?

Prodigy_Prodigy_ Member Posts: 1
So what is it ? I always see people asking is X good or is X bad. But in reality’s what is it really? Extra points what’s makes a champion “God tier”

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  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,192 ★★★★★
    If they counter stuff they suppose to for me that is as i dont play bgs so if they counter what there aimed at being then sure there good but if there terrible at countering the champ their designed for its terrible again my own opinion.

    others its if they can speed kill while countering their abilities since bgs is about time so they need a champ that can be fast lose low health while ignoring the abilities that makes them tough.

    If designed for everest etc then there ramp should feel good enough and better than those that dont need to ramp up like theres been a few non ramp champs being better at everest than the ramp up champ
  • FeuerschwerFeuerschwer Member Posts: 404 ★★★
    If I don’t pull them from the Titan, they’re God Tier and I’m mad at Kabam for not letting me have them. If I do pull them from the Titan, they’re mid at best and I’m mad at Kabam for not buffing them.

    But to be real the best champions generally have a combination of relatively easy to access damage and fairly broad utility; bad champs have damage potential that is extremely hard to access (Super Skrull for instance) or just not there, and not enough ability to counter evade/miss/direct damage/annoying nodes to make up for it.
  • Awesomep12Awesomep12 Member Posts: 1,506 ★★★★
    edited December 20
    Speed, utility, immunities, ease of use and, ofc, damage
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,210 ★★★★

    Speed, utility, immunities, ease of use and, ofc, damage

    Viability across game modes is another one.
  • Tony886Tony886 Member Posts: 776 ★★
    If it's a dual threat then he / she is a good champ
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    Not yall giving the OP dislikes yall are messy...

    Anyways for the current game state, someone who is good needs to
    a) be a good enough all-rounder to be good in a wide range of matchups
    b) have something that makes them stand out in comparison to other top tier champs
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,818 ★★★★★
    How fast the hero smoke everything.
    Don't listen to utility frogs, if there's no damage, that utility goes down the drain,

    Perfect example of recent times, leader and patriot
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,251 ★★★★★
    It really depends on the person. Some people want nukes. Some cherish defenders. Others want good quest champs.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,121 ★★★★★
    Quake - good.
    Don’t know how to use effectively? - trash.
  • Schultz10213Schultz10213 Member Posts: 2
    edited December 20
    Its more a personal judgment. BG players will tell you someone like Beta Ray Bill is pretty mid or not up to par because he doesn't finish fights quickly or isn't meta relevant, but this doesn't take away his usefulness in questing and long form content. If a champ can save you even 1 revive then its good, case and point crucible. Try out a champ and read their kit and make your own judgment (use Youtube tier lists for a general judgment, DO NOT take them as a fact). My opinion btw not trying to start an argument.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,995 Guardian
    Largely depends on who you talk to really. If you're talking to someone who only cares about top-of-the-meta champions, then they need consistent 30 second or less BG matches or great dual-threats/defenders for BGs. Anyone else is trash and not worth your time.

    Some other people value how fun a champion is to use. Others value ease of use or the utility of a champion. Some are blind to anything that doesn't have big yellow numbers (this one is probably the largest subsection of the vocal community). Most of the rest of everyone falls into the mindset of not creating their own opinions and as such just latch onto what some YouTuber or what someone said about the champion and take their word as law. That last set is the most fun to interact with for multiple reasons because they're the people who 3 years ago would tell someone brand new to the game to rank their unduped 6* ghost because she was the best champion in the game, while ignoring the fact she was one of the most difficult champions to use, especially for a beginner. It's even more fun when they are told a champion is good, or hyped by some showcase they saw of the champion, so they rank them up without even testing them and then get mad at the person when they either are 1. Using the champion in the wrong way (like just parrying and doing MLLLM attacks with ghost) 2. Using the champion in a bad matchup (like using ghost vs CGR).

    My favorite people are those who use RoL winter soldier of the be-all end-all of testing a champion. For example, using isophyne against RoL WS is not a great matchup for her. It makes her feel fairly weak. However, using Isophyne versus Serpent is a lot better matchup, especially when she is awakened.

    TL:DR people have different preferences and instead you should just rank Sersi and call it a day.
  • Jason_32Jason_32 Member Posts: 12
    Herc is great example for trash while kamala khan is god tier. As simple as that.
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 484 ★★
    Stats 👍
  • SpiderVerseSpiderVerse Member Posts: 76
    Its simple.

    Its a good champ if its can take not only advantage class but a lot of other classes even its disadvantage class because of its big damage or damage type or immunities or easy to play or the combination of those things.

    Ex.
    Kate Bishop can take Mutants because not rely on bleed but coldsnap

    Red Magneto can take Tech because its good against metal, boost the specials

    Future Ant-Man can take Cosmic because its potent power drain, damage cap, disintegration, also the resistance

    Cosmic Ghost Rider can take Mystic because its damage is so big and quick, also the immunities

    Kushala can take Science because the various type of damage like soulbarb, also the immunities

    Photon can take Skill because its energy damage and immune to bleed

    So, if its a "counter alot" type champ, not only a "counter someone" type champ then its a sign of a good champ or even top tier
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,121 ★★★★★
    Sometime in the future we are going to see nodes which counters class disadvantage or whatever combination.
    KB cannot take on Mutants. Magneto's magnetism fails. etc etc.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,881 ★★★★★

    Sometime in the future we are going to see nodes which counters class disadvantage or whatever combination.
    KB cannot take on Mutants. Magneto's magnetism fails. etc etc.

    Kb?
  • Blue_Eyed_ThingBlue_Eyed_Thing Member Posts: 132
    Jason_32 said:

    Herc is great example for trash while kamala khan is god tier. As simple as that.

    So true good sir, we need her in the titan crystal.
  • WolvieLoganWolvieLogan Member Posts: 33
    For most of the recently released champions, your question is like 2 sides of a coin.

    Good as defender
    Trash as attacker.

    Those champions who, you use as an attacker, are okay with you making a mistake and help recover and complete the right are considered good champions. Those who doesn't like you making mistakes are trash
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 1,039 ★★★
    For me, a convoluted playstyle makes a champ instantly meh for me. BRB, Onslaught and Scorpion, I’m looking at you guys.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,700 ★★★★
    If they feel fun to play
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,186 ★★★★★
    If they have enough damage and utility to be viable in BGs and other modes
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,186 ★★★★★
    Jason_32 said:

    Herc is great example for trash while kamala khan is god tier. As simple as that.

    @Ghostboytjie
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,424 ★★★★★
    edited December 20
    EdisonLaw said:

    Jason_32 said:

    Herc is great example for trash while kamala khan is god tier. As simple as that.

    @Ghostboytjie
    The revolution has started
  • i13i13 Member Posts: 179
    it's all about the counters & kits for me.
    I'd put Scorpion at the top of the list for a champion that can over come most objectives.

    I play Battlegrounds but I don't enjoy it, and I hate the fact I've ranked up what I'd call "dirty tactic champs" just to throw at people on defense, yes I'm talking about champs like bullseyes, fury & korg lol

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