A Step in the Right Direction

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  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,672 ★★★★★
    Also, the Glorious Sig stones are completely unusable if you don't spend way more extra units to get to the Awakening Gem, many milestones further, "On Top of them".
  • Drago_von_DragoDrago_von_Drago Member Posts: 989 ★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    Buffing the realm event that ruined the reward budget everywhere else is just yet another attempt to manipulate us into opening more trash crystals.

    I don't know why people keep saying this when it isn't true. The realm stuff was never part of the rewards budget.
    I’ve been thinking about this point a lot lately and someone has to explain this.

    Either:

    A. The reward budget was maxed already and the realm is literally breaking the game economy.

    B. The reward budget was under tuned and there was enough room to add Realm.

    It can’t be “on top of” unless the baseline for banquet wasn’t already maxed out. If it was already maxed out that would mean they decided to break the economy with the realm rewards.

    Can someone try to explain it differently?

    Neither one. The rewards budget was maxed in how Kabam perceived it to be. Realm isn't breaking the game. The rewards in realm aren't exactly staggering. But they are not part of the original rewards budget.

    Can you elaborate or explain your view more? If you look at banquet as a whole, I only see those two options. Banquet without Realm wasn’t the max reward budget the game could handle or Realm exceeds what the game can handle. There is no other option I see. I’m asking you to explain instead of just say both are wrong.
    You have the Banquet event. Alliance/Solo Milestones and crystals. That's the event. The rewards in that event would be there regardless of anything else and those would have been the most rewards we would have gotten.

    The realm is an added event. Those rewards are extra. They did not impact what we would have had in the banquet.
    That has to mean that the banquet event without the Realm wasn’t designed to give us the max rewards the game could handle so it was already under tuned. So saying “realm is extra” when it really just got us closer to the max possible reward budget isn’t making anyone feel better.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,311 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    Also, the Glorious Sig stones are completely unusable if you don't spend way more extra units to get to the Awakening Gem, many milestones further, "On Top of them".

    This was part of my feedback. That AG should have been lower. I know there will be other chances to get more keys but having that many sig stones before the AG just wasn't thought out well. It's only good for 6 champs so the value isn't that high.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,465 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    Buffing the realm event that ruined the reward budget everywhere else is just yet another attempt to manipulate us into opening more trash crystals.

    I don't know why people keep saying this when it isn't true. The realm stuff was never part of the rewards budget.
    Because the evidence overwhelming points to it being entirely true. Because without the realm event the event would be entirely subpar. There is absolutely no way that the realm rewards are “on top” of the rewards that were budgeted as we were told on stream.

    And post let down we are told to then factor in the totality of the milestone rewards into our unit investment now, which means including the realm event.

    So either the event was always planned to be subpar and was never meant to be a grand 10-year celebration OR rewards for the realm event were clearly factored into the reward budget.
    There's no evidence. Its just you assuming. You want something to blame so you throw this in there as well. If the crystals were better or whatever and the event was good, you wouldn't even mention it. But you need stuff to throw at them so just completely make this up. There's no reason for them to lie about it.
    Apparently what was said on the live stream and what was posted here don’t count, lol.

    The milestone adjustment is so tone deaf… they had people chasing these SBC for months only to be massively let down… this really sucks.

    I’d say it’s the thought that counts but clearly there wasn’t much thought given to this and the evidence points to continued half truths and manipulation.

    Oh and thus only matter should we actually hit the realm events. Otherwise it’s all sunk cost. So once again the realm event is a source of annoyance and stress rather than additional fun. They really suck at these.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,311 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    Buffing the realm event that ruined the reward budget everywhere else is just yet another attempt to manipulate us into opening more trash crystals.

    I don't know why people keep saying this when it isn't true. The realm stuff was never part of the rewards budget.
    Because the evidence overwhelming points to it being entirely true. Because without the realm event the event would be entirely subpar. There is absolutely no way that the realm rewards are “on top” of the rewards that were budgeted as we were told on stream.

    And post let down we are told to then factor in the totality of the milestone rewards into our unit investment now, which means including the realm event.

    So either the event was always planned to be subpar and was never meant to be a grand 10-year celebration OR rewards for the realm event were clearly factored into the reward budget.
    There's no evidence. Its just you assuming. You want something to blame so you throw this in there as well. If the crystals were better or whatever and the event was good, you wouldn't even mention it. But you need stuff to throw at them so just completely make this up. There's no reason for them to lie about it.
    Apparently what was said on the live stream and what was posted here don’t count, lol.

    The milestone adjustment is so tone deaf… they had people chasing these SBC for months only to be massively let down… this really sucks.

    I’d say it’s the thought that counts but clearly there wasn’t much thought given to this and the evidence points to continued half truths and manipulation.

    Oh and thus only matter should we actually hit the realm events. Otherwise it’s all sunk cost. So once again the realm event is a source of annoyance and stress rather than additional fun. They really suck at these.
    Give them some more time. Remember, its Saturday and the start of a holiday period where people are probably off. Despite what we think, they are allowed to have time off.
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  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,672 ★★★★★

    Searmenis said:

    Also, the Glorious Sig stones are completely unusable if you don't spend way more extra units to get to the Awakening Gem, many milestones further, "On Top of them".

    This was part of my feedback. That AG should have been lower. I know there will be other chances to get more keys but having that many sig stones before the AG just wasn't thought out well. It's only good for 6 champs so the value isn't that high.
    Exactly. The thought progress should have been, introduce the chance of a dupe, first, a realistic one not after spending 300$ to get all the champions and then some to dupe one, and then, the stones. Especially when, at the moment, the fist sigs are in a very low bracket, where most of the people can achieve them, and end up with something stored for at least a year.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,311 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Also, the Glorious Sig stones are completely unusable if you don't spend way more extra units to get to the Awakening Gem, many milestones further, "On Top of them".

    This was part of my feedback. That AG should have been lower. I know there will be other chances to get more keys but having that many sig stones before the AG just wasn't thought out well. It's only good for 6 champs so the value isn't that high.
    Exactly. The thought progress should have been, introduce the chance of a dupe, first, a realistic one not after spending 300$ to get all the champions and then some to dupe one, and then, the stones. Especially when, at the moment, the fist sigs are in a very low bracket, where most of the people can achieve them, and end up with something stored for at least a year.
    There's only 3 keys without any coming from crystals. And the key has such a low drop rate, only a handful would get them. The rest are going to come if we spend money and not until next week. It's just backwards in my mind.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,783 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    Buffing the realm event that ruined the reward budget everywhere else is just yet another attempt to manipulate us into opening more trash crystals.

    I don't know why people keep saying this when it isn't true. The realm stuff was never part of the rewards budget.
    Then why was it updated?
    And why did Crashed say "think of it as a package"

    This realm update is a band aid to a wound that needs stitches.
    Because it's the one thing they can update. Haven't you noticed they added to tiers we haven't reached yet instead of other tiers below? Most all alliances who are even half trying have maxed their milestones out, so they can't add things to those without possibly causing issues. The easiest thing they can do is add to milestone levels that haven't been reached yet. Most likely just a quick thing they can do right this minute.
    Its also tiers that can only be reached by buying more horrible crudtals, the fix benefits this horrible event more than the player
  • Buzerk1969Buzerk1969 Member Posts: 69
    I don't agree still need to open those lack luster SBC to get points, all that for what? 1 7*? The problem is the SBC and what it drops.
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  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,783 ★★★★★
    edited December 21
    They had lemons, they had a chance to take their time over the weekend and make some lemonade..
    Instead they cut the lemons, squeeze them into little shot glasses and leave us wiith an extra sour taste...
    My grandpa used to say "graves can be deeper than 6 feet"...

    Stop digging Kabam...
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