Not getting Thanos/Kang team in basic arena after win streak 10

Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★
For a month now, I am not getting Thanos/Kang team in basic arena after win streak 10.
I am always getting death matches beyond win streak 10.

Please guide me.
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  • Darthbane3141Darthbane3141 Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    I use my 6 star rank 1 champions until 10 win streak, then I use 7 stars and it usually works.
  • Friendly001Friendly001 Member Posts: 549 ★★★
    I use 7 star R1 until 3 multiplier then use 7 star rank 2 and 3s.
  • GuttGutt Member Posts: 49
    Fight 9 I use r3hulk r1 Hawkeye r1 war machine
    Fight 10 I use r2 OS r1 OR r1 moondragon
    Fight 11 and up I use synergy champs and never seen death matches using this
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    You need to up your PI of champs if you're getting win death matches. It constantly changes, though ever so slightly.

    Can you give a general pi? I mean what PI i should be having?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,245 ★★★★★

    You need to up your PI of champs if you're getting win death matches. It constantly changes, though ever so slightly.

    Can you give a general pi? I mean what PI i should be having?
    Have no idea as I don't have to worry about it as my champions are high enough and I'm not a heavy arena grinder. But as r3's have become more common, the PI increases, and the same will happen when we start seeing r4. I'd suggest what others above have said.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,179 ★★★★★
    2x 6-Star R1 and 1x 4-Star R1 works for round 11 & 12.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    2x 6-Star R1 and 1x 4-Star R1 works for round 11 & 12.

    And after round 12?
  • Jgdahustla1Jgdahustla1 Member Posts: 27
    Usually I use my 7*r1 until match 5 after that I don’t use any champ lower then 20k pi
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    Usually I use my 7*r1 until match 5 after that I don’t use any champ lower then 20k pi

    My pi is ranging between 37 and 43k from 10 to 15 win streak and Im never getting Thanos/Kang teams.

    I have 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2. Rest 6 star as r1 while 15 5stars as r5
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 1,152 ★★★★
    I just go straight in with my best pi champs on round one, and keep playing until I'm down to my last r3 6*.

    If its the basic I'm pretty much at the 4 Mil by then, if it's featured, I'll finish the rest of it next day doing the same thing.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,245 ★★★★★
    edited January 1

    Usually I use my 7*r1 until match 5 after that I don’t use any champ lower then 20k pi

    My pi is ranging between 37 and 43k from 10 to 15 win streak and Im never getting Thanos/Kang teams.

    I have 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2. Rest 6 star as r1 while 15 5stars as r5
    Yeh, I unfortunately don't think that will cut it. Your roster isn't deep enough, unless you're going to wait for the timer to reset for your: 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2 .

    I am honestly surprised that you weren't getting death matches before this past month with that roster.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,179 ★★★★★
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,245 ★★★★★
    I think that's rather outdated. Has it still held true for you recently?
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    Usually I use my 7*r1 until match 5 after that I don’t use any champ lower then 20k pi

    My pi is ranging between 37 and 43k from 10 to 15 win streak and Im never getting Thanos/Kang teams.

    I have 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2. Rest 6 star as r1 while 15 5stars as r5
    Yeh, I unfortunately don't think that will cut it. Your roster isn't deep enough, unless you're going to wait for the timer to reset for your: 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2 .

    I am honestly surprised that you weren't getting death matches before this past month with that roster.
    Actually even my top champs are getting death matches.
    I tried with all 3 6star r4
    Then all 3 6star r3
    All 3 6star r2
    And all 3 5star r5.

    Always death matches
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,245 ★★★★★
    edited January 1

    Usually I use my 7*r1 until match 5 after that I don’t use any champ lower then 20k pi

    My pi is ranging between 37 and 43k from 10 to 15 win streak and Im never getting Thanos/Kang teams.

    I have 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2. Rest 6 star as r1 while 15 5stars as r5
    Yeh, I unfortunately don't think that will cut it. Your roster isn't deep enough, unless you're going to wait for the timer to reset for your: 3 6 star r4, 5 6 star r3 and 7 6 star r2 .

    I am honestly surprised that you weren't getting death matches before this past month with that roster.
    Actually even my top champs are getting death matches.
    I tried with all 3 6star r4
    Then all 3 6star r3
    All 3 6star r2
    And all 3 5star r5.

    Always death matches
    Yeh, they probably should be all death matches except the r4, and that might even be on the edge. You can try sandbagging where you pair one weak champ with two strong champs, but I still don't know if that will help in this case.

    We're basically in the era where the minimum roster is 7r1, which is the same as 6r4.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★
    Hey @winterthur
    Is this valid now too?
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★
    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,179 ★★★★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,179 ★★★★★

    I think that's rather outdated. Has it still held true for you recently?
    I will test again. Definitely working till round 12.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,802 ★★★★★
    Your best chance to avoid "death" matches, though where you are describing these matches at they are not true death matches, is going to be to sandbag unless you have a large roster. Here's is my routine and I will point out what you need to change for your best bet:

    0-10 - 3 6R1
    11-19 - 3 6R3 (I face 7R3 in 11-13, Thanos/Kang 14-16)
    20+ - top of roster until done

    6R3 vs 7R3 is not a true death match, but it can be tough, especially when you get a trio of Onslaught, Bullseye and Serpent. At streaks 11-13, the game is essentially trying to find the hardest opponent it can for you. No matter what you do, this is the game's objective. So, here are your options:
    1. Match the opponent with 7R3 of your own, but of course that means you need at least 9 to get through, and it may result in your team being too strong which will get you to Thanos/Kang teams too early, wasting points.
    2. Use 7R1 to close the gap. A more manageable fight, but still with a bit of difficulty depending on the specific champs.
    3. Use 2 of your highest champs alongside a 4R1 - this will shrink your overall PI, reducing the strength of the opponent. Basically your goal is to overpower two fights by sacrificing one. It isn't full proof, but it does close the gap.

    Scrolling back up and looking at your roster, if the top end of your account is really just three 6R4 champs, you're going to have a really tough time getting the infinite streak going. Since the introduction of 7* champs, the line you need to leap keeps getting higher. Even if you can lock in the streak, which starts at around 20+, using any team with a total PI below like 36-40k will trigger death matches. You've gotta beef up the roster more.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
    Streak 14
    Went with 3 5star r5 (none are ascended), PI 41k


    Death match again
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,802 ★★★★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
    Streak 14
    Went with 3 5star r5 (none are ascended), PI 41k


    Death match again
    At 14+ you need to be topping a total PI of about 50k. You can try with two 5R5 and one 4R1 and see if that helps.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
    Streak 14
    Went with 3 5star r5 (none are ascended), PI 41k


    Death match again
    At 14+ you need to be topping a total PI of about 50k. You can try with two 5R5 and one 4R1 and see if that helps.
    Man if my 3 5r5 champs have total PI of 41k
    How come 2r5 and 4r1 will have 50k?
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★
    edited January 1
    Wait
    Wait.

    Are you saying 6stars?

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
    Streak 14
    Went with 3 5star r5 (none are ascended), PI 41k


    Death match again
    At 14+ you need to be topping a total PI of about 50k. You can try with two 5R5 and one 4R1 and see if that helps.


    2 6stars at rank 5
    And 1 5star at rank 1?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,802 ★★★★★

    Wait
    Wait.

    Are you saying 6stars?

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.
    Streak 14
    Went with 3 5star r5 (none are ascended), PI 41k


    Death match again
    At 14+ you need to be topping a total PI of about 50k. You can try with two 5R5 and one 4R1 and see if that helps.


    2 6stars at rank 5
    And 1 5star at rank 1?
    I typed the numbers that I typed.

    And no, two 5* and one 4* don't magically make a higher PI. It lowers the opponents difficulty. The algorithm finds you matches based on a difficulty multiplier (different from streak multiplier) which is based on the strength of your team. At some streak levels (specifically where you are having trouble), reducing your PI below a certain level can reduce the opponents difficulty. If you have a total PI of 40k, then the game may drop a team at 120k in your lap. But if you reduce your PI to 30k by throwing one of the fights in the trash (ie a 4R1), then you may only get a team at 90k to fight against, making two fights far more manageable.

    As I said above in my lengthy post, which had you read it I may not be answering questions already addressed in it, your roster is probably too small to actually get the infinite streak going. And even if you do get it going, it will be difficult to maintain after a few rounds, so you will accumulate points very slowly. Your only chance is to try the sandbag method, which has been described multiple times by multiple players.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,179 ★★★★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.


    This one may be tough with 3x 5-Star max rank (no Thanos team).



  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,802 ★★★★★

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.


    This one may be tough with 3x 5-Star max rank (no Thanos team).



    That 3x 5* matchup is super manageable. I do hope that is not what OP is referring to as a death match. But you've also got 45k PI which helps rather than 40k or less.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 638 ★★★
    do this

    start with 6*r1 till you get to 3x multiplier

    then start with 7*r3s or 6*r5s instant kang or thanos team
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 264 ★★
    edited January 1

    Not working @winterthur..

    Streak 13
    Went with 2 5star r5 and 1 6star r2.
    Death match
    I think cannot. Too low. Need 3 5-Star r5. I will test out but some hours later.


    This one may be tough with 3x 5-Star max rank (no Thanos team).



    That 3x 5* matchup is super manageable. I do hope that is not what OP is referring to as a death match. But you've also got 45k PI which helps rather than 40k or less.
    No man. By death match, I meant my 6 star r2 all 3 champs vs 7star rank 3 and 4 mix team, like against proper whale team.

    Edit- so now from streak 14, I should use only 6 star r1 and 4 star r1 team? I mean what should be the PI from streak 14 onwards?
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