For the Moasuleum, I'm guessing each path will be a Deathless Gate Key, but man, I am nervous about:

BadPullsMarco · January 3

The Deathless Vision path. Obviously I don't know what the mechanic will be for that fight but, with Vision's kit, I'm guessing it will center around keeping a constant heal block on the opponent where one mistake and they heal half there health right then and there...and probable the other half when you start the fight over. I really hope this is not the case, I've always hated fights where that's how it goes but what do you guys think?

Ercarret · January 3

I figured that it might be about keeping the defender's power in check. I guess we'll see. No need to worry about anything until we know anything for sure.

willrun4adonut · January 3

That's why I saved 2 r2-3 gems. One for Thanos, and one for whichever champ will need it between Guilly, DKG and Vision. And can rank one with catalysts. I'm hoping Vision's is 'easy' because I'd prefer to rank the other ones and not him.

Bendy · January 3

willrun4adonut said:
That's why I saved 2 r2-3 gems. One for Thanos, and one for whichever champ will need it between Guilly, DKG and Vision. And can rank one with catalysts. I'm hoping Vision's is 'easy' because I'd prefer to rank the other ones and not him.

Vision should have the easiest lane as hes by far most lacking

captain_rogers · January 3

The fights would be way easier than you think I bet.

willrun4adonut · January 3

Bendy said:

willrun4adonut said:
That's why I saved 2 r2-3 gems. One for Thanos, and one for whichever champ will need it between Guilly, DKG and Vision. And can rank one with catalysts. I'm hoping Vision's is 'easy' because I'd prefer to rank the other ones and not him.
Vision should have the easiest lane as hes by far most lacking

You ready for the incoming influx of people who were banned for no reason? I know I am.

Bendy · January 3

willrun4adonut said:

Bendy said:

willrun4adonut said:
That's why I saved 2 r2-3 gems. One for Thanos, and one for whichever champ will need it between Guilly, DKG and Vision. And can rank one with catalysts. I'm hoping Vision's is 'easy' because I'd prefer to rank the other ones and not him.
Vision should have the easiest lane as hes by far most lacking
You ready for the incoming flux of people who were banned for no reason? I know I am.

Hell yeah lol

ChiefGoat · January 3

All my 7* deathless champs are at R3 and ready to go

N8buckeye08 · January 3

BadPullsMarco said:
The Deathless Vision path. Obviously I don't know what the mechanic will be for that fight but, with Vision's kit, I'm guessing it will center around keeping a constant heal block on the opponent where one mistake and they heal half there health right then and there...and probable the other half when you start the fight over. I really hope this is not the case, I've always hated fights where that's how it goes but what do you guys think?

I highly doubt they will lock it behind their sig ability. Some of us bought pieces after the chance to dupe them. I’ll be livid if this is the case

BadPullsMarco · January 3

N8buckeye08 said:

BadPullsMarco said:
The Deathless Vision path. Obviously I don't know what the mechanic will be for that fight but, with Vision's kit, I'm guessing it will center around keeping a constant heal block on the opponent where one mistake and they heal half there health right then and there...and probable the other half when you start the fight over. I really hope this is not the case, I've always hated fights where that's how it goes but what do you guys think?
I highly doubt they will lock it behind their sig ability. Some of us bought pieces after the chance to dupe them. I’ll be livid if this is the case

His heal block is built into his kit not his sig. His sig, although not useless, doesn’t seem really relevant.

Equints · January 3

BadPullsMarco said:
The Deathless Vision path. Obviously I don't know what the mechanic will be for that fight but, with Vision's kit, I'm guessing it will center around keeping a constant heal block on the opponent where one mistake and they heal half there health right then and there...and probable the other half when you start the fight over. I really hope this is not the case, I've always hated fights where that's how it goes but what do you guys think?

If the regen is so potent that they are gonna heal half their health that would make the path too easy. With his awakened ability his damage would shoot through the roof with upwards of 2.5k damage per 5% heath healed with max furies. So it will most likely be a small regen.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

I just practiced with him for kind of a while, and it’s very hard, at least for me, to find that rhythm between power burning enough to activate the heal block consistently in a way where that type of fight would occur. I’m starting to think rather than an overwhelming health block path, it might be more of a power control path.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

Also, I really hope it’s not the case because I don’t awaken him.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

Equints said:

BadPullsMarco said:
The Deathless Vision path. Obviously I don't know what the mechanic will be for that fight but, with Vision's kit, I'm guessing it will center around keeping a constant heal block on the opponent where one mistake and they heal half there health right then and there...and probable the other half when you start the fight over. I really hope this is not the case, I've always hated fights where that's how it goes but what do you guys think?
If the regen is so potent that they are gonna heal half their health that would make the path too easy. With his awakened ability his damage would shoot through the roof with upwards of 2.5k damage per 5% heath healed with max furies. So it will most likely be a small regen.

Thats a really good point.

EdisonLaw · January 4

Did they say how much health the defenders will have?

BadPullsMarco · January 4

Nah, but I’m guessing somewhere around 1-2 mil.

__SF__ · January 4

It sure why we have to do all of this. U will think with allllll year round of hustle and playing and focused, you would get thanos by having all the 7*s deathless. Release it already …

Darthbane3141 · January 4

I wish deathless champs weren't so important now, I don't have any of them and I thought it wouldn't be a problem.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

I just hope, hope that each fight isnt heavily weighted on the dupes. I don’t have every deathless duped, Vision is the one I’m most worried about. I’m like so nervous that the node is gonna be regen based, and the way you do significant damage is through his heal block sig damage. If that happens it’s gonna be like a non soloed Necropolis Airwalker situation where that path is gonna be like 1,500 units of just hitting a bit and then force quitting before whatever happens or waiting a year or more (vision was the last in rotation) and to get the chance to do it.

I don’t mind if the signature ability helps and saves you a few revives here in there because the people that just did the EOP deserve it, I should’ve done it, but I’m just hoping, truly hoping that it’s not a situation where if you didn’t do EOP to get the dupe, you are doing like 50 K damage before you force quit and have to revive up to 1.5 million health because of it.

willrun4adonut · January 4

BadPullsMarco said:
I just hope, hope that each fight isnt heavily weighted on the dupes. I don’t have every deathless duped, Vision is the one I’m most worried about. I’m like so nervous that the node is gonna be regen based, and the way you do significant damage is through his heal block sig damage. If that happens it’s gonna be like a non soloed Necropolis Airwalker situation where that path is gonna be like 1,500 units of just hitting a bit and then force quitting before whatever happens or waiting a year or more (vision was the last in rotation) and to get the chance to do it.

I don’t mind if the signature ability helps and saves you a few revives here in there because the people that just did the EOP deserve it, I should’ve done it, but I’m just hoping, truly hoping that it’s not a situation where if you didn’t do EOP to get the dupe, you are doing like 50 K damage before you force quit and have to revive up to 1.5 million health because of it.

As Buckeye said above "I highly doubt they will lock it behind their sig ability. Some of us bought pieces after the chance to dupe them. I’ll be livid if this is the case"

I hadn't thought of that (I have all champs, duped and r2+ ready to go), but that would be really lame. I wasn't upset about banquet, but this i do feel would be a 👋😑😤😵‍💫😡(slap in the face to the community)

Ashacekar · January 4

Don't get nervous, they won't bite. At the worst you can get the 6* from normal difficulty.

Fryday · January 4

Ashacekar said:
Don't get nervous, they won't bite. At the worst you can get the 6* from normal difficulty.

Are you kidding me, DKGroot look like he definitely would bite, chew us up and spit us out 🤣

While DGuillotine would be happy to cut us up to small pieces for DeJen to have us in small little bite (because she is a lady) 🤣.

Honestly though I really hope the Path for DeVision isn't too hard, I really, really don't want to have to rank him up just for one path.

Bugmat78 · January 4

willrun4adonut said:
That's why I saved 2 r2-3 gems. One for Thanos, and one for whichever champ will need it between Guilly, DKG and Vision. And can rank one with catalysts. I'm hoping Vision's is 'easy' because I'd prefer to rank the other ones and not him.

I got catalyst to r3 two of them and then a gem..same reasoning. I figured there was some catch to getting Thanos despite a year of work.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

This is definitely my big concern. There are a couple ways they can do this fight to make it fair for the people that do not have the signature ability unlocked, but also give advantages to people that do have the signature ability unlocked. Unfortunately, after 7 to 8 years of playing this game, and watching the slow metamorphosis from challenging to cruel, I’m feeling a lot of trepidation here.

The one upside is, it almost feels too cruel to make a fight where the only way to do damage is with degeneration during a heal block state because at that point it’s like anybody who bought a piece for an exorbitant amount of money for specifically Thanos, even if they have everything else or in some cases I’m sure there are people that might have purchased every single piece for every single champion using all those deals that just happened for extra units because they are super excited for Thanos now because he’s not some distant future champ, but a very real one coming out in four days that is now after spending exorbitant amounts of money, is simply blocked out.

So, that definitely bodes well for it being a doable fight without the signature ability but again, just after years and years and years and years of playing this game and seeing what it’s turning into, it it’s hard not to think that there isn’t gonna be some 20,000 unit deal for a vision dupe. Again, I hope I’m wrong, with great a big sigh, I ranked three’s him and ranked two’d everybody else with most likely one more going to rank up three for the sole reason to just have more damage output in case these fights becomes a hit him five times quit hitting five times quit hit them five times revive quit yada yada yada.

Funny enough though, I’ve been practicing him so much trying to get the ideal rotation pre-node BS to make sure that I have a constant heal block up at all times, I’ve un-ironically become probably one of the best deathless vision players in the world lol.

In the end, I guess we’ll just have to see though. It’s definitely pretty silly to be stressing out over a mobile video game so much but we’ll see. It would just be truly truly sad for all of that work, all the revives, all the cash along the way, I have done five out of the six Carina challenges (they weren’t all ftp, I made a mistake on Airwalker but was two stubborn to quit, you guys can take a guess at the revive cost of that ethical fight…) to just be simply blocked out of this for no other reason than a very low tier Champion’s signature ability.

Deacon · January 4

and for the life of me was it so hard for the developers to actual make him PHASE when activating his PHASE. Just borrow Ghost's phase code because it's stupid that he doesn't actually look phased while phasing. Maybe that would help at least me with him more.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

It’s also concerning that it’s coming out in 4 days ish and no word at all about any of the nodes or bosses. Could just be that they’re on vacation of course, could be that it’s economically beneficial for people to have less study time before FOMO becomes the driving force and people just jump in and go for it but it’s also unnerving that maybe they know this is what it’s gonna be like and they just don’t wanna hear it right now.

Gamer · January 4

BadPullsMarco said:
It’s also concerning that it’s coming out in 4 days ish and no word at all about any of the nodes or bosses. Could just be that they’re on vacation of course, could be that it’s economically beneficial for people to have less study time before FOMO becomes the driving force and people just jump in and go for it but it’s also unnerving that maybe they know this is what it’s gonna be like and they just don’t wanna hear it right now.

It permanently quest so FOMO shouldn’t exist in this one

Chuck_Finley · January 4

If they want to make the difference between exploring with awakened vs unduped a few revives…. Fine. If I spent 10K units for DKG after they only made a big deal about having 7 star version to get 7 stars thanos , and unawakened DKG can’t get through a quest without huge unit spend… that is 100% unacceptable.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

I think this is gonna be either fine and an overblown concern, or the worse most unethical thing they have ever done.

BadPullsMarco · January 4

The problem here is entirely in the shop to get the pieces. It would be one thing if there was no way to get the pieces and was entirely utterly only for those who did not take any breaks over the last year, that placed high in alliance war that did battlegrounds, EOP, whatever it was that they had to do. At that point it’s like fine, whatever, this is only for them. It’s the shop though, it’s the fact that anybody who’s willing to drop, again an exorbitant amount of money can technically enter the quest, but if these nodes are set up in a way that you bought a piece after the dupe was available and now you cannot do it…my goodness if that is the case, that basically would just almost be evil. Of course I’m using the term evil very loosely here it is not the same type of evil as a war crime or something nefarious of that nature, but relative to a gotcha game, that would be evil.

willrun4adonut · January 4

Chuck_Finley said:
If they want to make the difference between exploring with awakened vs unduped a few revives…. Fine. If I spent 10K units for DKG after they only made a big deal about having 7 star version to get 7 stars thanos , and unawakened DKG can’t get through a quest without huge unit spend… that is 100% unacceptable.

I agree completely with this (and bit just because I said buying him was a better use of your money). I'll go to bat on this if they require sig level.

For the Moasuleum, I'm guessing each path will be a Deathless Gate Key, but man, I am nervous about:

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