Beta Ray Bill and Enchantress Balance Update Discussion
The_0wenpus
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Personally disappointed that Enchantress hasn't received a slight defense nerf or attack buff. Her damage reflection is a bit too much making for oddly lopsided matchups even when fighting a much lower PI Enchantress than your attacker.
Personally disappointed that Enchantress hasn't received a slight defense nerf or attack buff. Her damage reflection is a bit too much making for oddly lopsided matchups even when fighting a much lower PI Enchantress than your attacker.
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I was hoping for an Offensive tweak, but oh well.
My main question is from the balance update post:
Who the heck is using her in Necropolis challenges? I haven't heard of anyone promoting using Enchantress for the Cul's objective, so how large is that sample size that this is based on?
I don’t play aw, but to those who do, is she still broken op on heavy hitter? I remember even 5* were getting kills with that node but idk if that’s more so due to the tactic or the node.
Rebalancing isn't aimed at making champions perfectly balanced characters. They're not supposed to be. They're not all meant to be both great attackers and defenders. They're not even necessarily meant to be comparable to each other. At least not all of them all of the time.
That's not what rebalancing is nor is it what it's intended to mean.
Rebalancing, is regarding the champion's specific and uniquely projected goals. When a champion does not attain the marks that was set for them by the team - they get rebalanced. Balanced back towards those markers/goals. So whether they're over-performing or under-performing, it doesn't matter.
The process has nothing to do with whether or not Leader is perfectly balanced overall as a character in the eyes of the community. The Leader was designed and released with very specific goals. Does he meet them: Yes -> No rebalance is needed. No? -> Rebalance.
Changing the combinations to something easy, or even changing it such a way each set triggers only once until all gets triggere once, makes it such a easy fix to enchantress. But kebem never understand us.
Correct. Also, very well explained, but unfortunately this response is way too logical for these forums
@PT_99
Example: The Inhuman Blackbolt whisper can kill someone easily.. Blackbolt sp3 is him shouting at the opponent.. they aren't affected much by it thou.. maybe he has laryngitis.. lol
Sentry is improved after his buff.. but he isn't upto Hyperion or Adam Warlock level yet.
As mentioned above, each character/ champion have their own niche and specialization.. whether we see the utility or not, as long as they hit the design attack/ defense metric as set by kabam designers.. they get adjusted accordingly.. wished some champions get a little semblance to their Marvel persona.
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I’m going to do my best not to heat up but I would appreciate if we had a detailed explanation about how enchantresses offensive kit is even remotely comparable to her defensive kit. Defensive enchantress starts off invulnerable, at times untouchable, with higher damage and that’s without factoring in quest nodes. We’ve all said this already and pointing out that there are long form quest fights where Enchantress players can sit back and ramp up doesn’t address the time that it takes to ramp up, the damage that she does compared to other mystic options (who have long and short ramp up times), the penalties for losing your ramp progress which in no way is comparable to Defender Enchantress and they’re also choosing not to let us carry over any of her effects. This reads as pure laziness
You literally just buffed/altered Northstar because it took too long to ramp him. You didn't change his damage but sped up playing him so he was more practical. You did the exact same thing to Shuri, same damage and shorter ramp. Now you have the most complicated champ in history that takes an absurd amount to time to ramp and don't think that needed to be shortened at all? Her damage is great after you spend 5 minutes getting it there but she's worthless on offense in every single game mode outside of Everest content. She's so unique and I was really looking forward to an opportunity to play her more, just like my new r2 Northstar, and you find her ramp acceptable?
Yes there are discussions around the intend, and how they match the power bar representations, but it's not about "balance" and making every champ the same amount of good
She gets banned every match anyway
She's annoying on power gain/ reserve nodes, but even then we've got science champs who can control that power influx.
Where she's really annoying is on nodes that build on actions you need to perform against her (knock down, intercept, heavy interrupt) or hinder it in some way.
She's a challenging champ that demands player skill over the usual rpg counter. Overall, I think she's fine defensively.
Offensively though... I'm disappointed that they're making no changes to her ramp up speed or even tweaking her neutralize potency vs cosmics (at the very least). I've had her fully set up on purple spells and she still lets buffs go through. I guess they don't want her to be a total buff controller on top of everything else, but considering her ramp I'd say it would've been fair.
Like her whole 12-16 spells ramp can fall off with one single mistake?
Tf is that?
I even tried her in Necro challenges? 5 times, whole 5 times ramping her up then sp2 spam was just weird, slow and not very impressed damage.
Meanwhile 7r3 Odin of mine, ramped up in 30 seconds, spam sp2 like crazy (thanks to energize buff) with each dealing 4-6% Necro HP damage and guess what? If I lose ramp it takes only sp3 to get it all back???
Kebem is not thinking straight with these new heroes,
Who asks us to ramp ramp ramp only for us to go, "Hey where's that BIG damage at?"
TL:DR - Kabam wanted Enchantress to be deeply horrible to fight on defense. She is. Job done...