Power gain metas.. please… just stop Kabam. I’m literally begging you.

SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
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Kabam, I love the fact that we’re going to back to two BG metas a season- because if it wasn’t for that; I wouldn’t touch this GC node with a ten foot pole.
Anyway, please stop bringing variations of power gain metas to BG’s- and make a mode that’s already heavily RNG based, even more RNG based.
It doesn’t matter how much skill or gamesense I have (or don’t have sometimes) if the AI is just like “Nah, you get no openings today” and ONLY throws specials- during the timer after you knock them down.

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  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.
  • Heinz11Heinz11 Member Posts: 255 ★★
    edited January 26
    Seyuoh said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    No - keep them coming as it's more skill based rather than a nuke where bigger roaster have straight advantage

    Please tell me this is satire. If not, please elaborate on how knocking down serpent, Bullseye, Maestro- is pretty much an immediate SP2-SP3 to the face right after. Because they immediately pop their SP1’s right into your block before you can react.
    If that’s deemed as “skill based” this mode is chocked.
    For all the champs you mentioned, knock them down when it will take them to a SP2.
    Serpent’s SP2 takes so long that the timer elapses and you don’t give him the power gain.
    Bullseye and Maestro have SP2s that are much easier to fully evade.
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    Get a life dude. Lmao.
    Go as far back into my post history as you’d like, clearly you have nothing else better to do.
    I’d like to add by the way, that first one you posted, is technically still a power gain meta.
    I hate nuke metas and power gain metas. I’ve said this many times, in both responses to people; and trolls like you on my posts.
    I can smell you from here.
  • Tx3Tx3 Member Posts: 5 ★
    I think it's the combination of nodes that makes it worse. Power gain meta + limited power control champs that can handle hazard shift.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,141 ★★★★
    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem

    Serpent, Bullseye, Maestro, Thanos, KP, Photon, Mephisto, just to name a few. There’s much more than just a few.
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    Cuber2906 said:

    Willrunforadonut being told to get a life was not in my 2025 bingo card.

    Over 5,000 posts on this forum? Yeah. Definitely has a life outside of being someone who lives on these forums. Lmao
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Cuber2906 said:

    Willrunforadonut being told to get a life was not in my 2025 bingo card.

    Wasn't in my Bingo card either. Just thought it was funny that he said he doesn't complain much about metas, but here's going on three months straight (at least) of complaining about BG metas. First hates just power gain metas, then adds nuke metas, what's next? Also, we have a complaint from a October, so I'm sure there's more. You just seem to hate BG because these are just the ones focused on the nodes and not your other complaints about BG. You may want to take a break from this mode.
    You sure do care a lot about my opinion, which I checked your in game ally by the way- and it totally checks out as to why. People like you are professional instigators.
    Also, if you’ve been stalking me for this long- you’d see that I’ve said multiple times I dislike the state of BG’s and how it’s going.
    If you’re gonna do your research, do it right.
    Go ahead and keep stalking me, I love my fans <3
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    Seyuoh said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Cuber2906 said:

    Willrunforadonut being told to get a life was not in my 2025 bingo card.

    Wasn't in my Bingo card either. Just thought it was funny that he said he doesn't complain much about metas, but here's going on three months straight (at least) of complaining about BG metas. First hates just power gain metas, then adds nuke metas, what's next? Also, we have a complaint from a October, so I'm sure there's more. You just seem to hate BG because these are just the ones focused on the nodes and not your other complaints about BG. You may want to take a break from this mode.
    You sure do care a lot about my opinion, which I checked your in game ally by the way- and it totally checks out as to why. People like you are professional instigators.
    Also, if you’ve been stalking me for this long- you’d see that I’ve said multiple times I dislike the state of BG’s and how it’s going.
    If you’re gonna do your research, do it right.
    Go ahead and keep stalking me, I love my fans
    Well, if you're a chronic whiner, then don't say lies like
    "I never complain, except about power gain".

    Also, Will is a very treasured community member who actually helps many people.
    Right, I didn’t realize this many people would care enough to go back in my post history- and bring up posts I’ve forgotten about. Lmao. I guess I’m just always supposed to remember every post I’ve ever made.
    I don’t care and wouldn’t know that Will is a “cherished” community member, because unlike the rest of you- I have a life outside these forums.
    I will admit though, it’s quite fun seeing how many people downvote me- just to downvote me.
    Rent free baby, rent free. <3
  • Cuber2906Cuber2906 Member Posts: 172 ★
    Seyuoh said:

    Average_Desi said:

    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem

    Serpent, Bullseye, Maestro, Thanos, KP, Photon, Mephisto, just to name a few. There’s much more than just a few.
    chavez by herself can handle powergain , kushala works upto an extent , shatra works,
    in science, nefaria and leader are way more effective, luke straight up reverses the powergain (not serpent tho),most of the wither and petrify champs are effective. power sting champs (scorpion , ham , etc) work better than usual .

    Yes its just a list of 10-15 champs and not everyone owns these champs, but having even 5 of these champs in ur deck is enough to play some of these matchups u mentioned. The draft rng is a whole diff topic but I hope u get my point.
  • HarryatomixHarryatomix Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Cuber2906 said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Average_Desi said:

    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem

    Serpent, Bullseye, Maestro, Thanos, KP, Photon, Mephisto, just to name a few. There’s much more than just a few.
    chavez by herself can handle powergain , kushala works upto an extent , shatra works,
    in science, nefaria and leader are way more effective, luke straight up reverses the powergain (not serpent tho),most of the wither and petrify champs are effective. power sting champs (scorpion , ham , etc) work better than usual .

    Yes its just a list of 10-15 champs and not everyone owns these champs, but having even 5 of these champs in ur deck is enough to play some of these matchups u mentioned. The draft rng is a whole diff topic but I hope u get my point.
    Good luck using leader chavez or shathra against hazard shift node, this combination nodes is wild imo (sugar pill, hazard shift, rise to power)
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    I came at you wrong earlier and I will admit that, I’m mature enough to realize when I’ve acted the opposite. I was running a high fever, lightheaded, basically a scinus infection and was ill due to it.
    However, for future reference- I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about.

    Also, I hit C6 for the first time today- so I won’t be taking a break from the mode; but maybe laying off grinding it as much as I have.
    Anyways, have a good day.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,240 ★★★★★
    Cuber2906 said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Average_Desi said:

    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem

    Serpent, Bullseye, Maestro, Thanos, KP, Photon, Mephisto, just to name a few. There’s much more than just a few.
    chavez by herself can handle powergain , kushala works upto an extent , shatra works,
    in science, nefaria and leader are way more effective, luke straight up reverses the powergain (not serpent tho),most of the wither and petrify champs are effective. power sting champs (scorpion , ham , etc) work better than usual .

    Yes its just a list of 10-15 champs and not everyone owns these champs, but having even 5 of these champs in ur deck is enough to play some of these matchups u mentioned. The draft rng is a whole diff topic but I hope u get my point.
    There are few hazard shift friendly power control champs
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 670 ★★★
    Seyuoh said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    I came at you wrong earlier and I will admit that, I’m mature enough to realize when I’ve acted the opposite. I was running a high fever, lightheaded, basically a scinus infection and was ill due to it.
    However, for future reference- I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about.

    Also, I hit C6 for the first time today- so I won’t be taking a break from the mode; but maybe laying off grinding it as much as I have.
    Anyways, have a good day.
    "I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about."
    So you don't want to be held accountable for things you yourself said, simply because you've forgotten you said it. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
  • Cuber2906Cuber2906 Member Posts: 172 ★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Cuber2906 said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Average_Desi said:

    Very few matchups where the rise to power even starts to become a problem

    Serpent, Bullseye, Maestro, Thanos, KP, Photon, Mephisto, just to name a few. There’s much more than just a few.
    chavez by herself can handle powergain , kushala works upto an extent , shatra works,
    in science, nefaria and leader are way more effective, luke straight up reverses the powergain (not serpent tho),most of the wither and petrify champs are effective. power sting champs (scorpion , ham , etc) work better than usual .

    Yes its just a list of 10-15 champs and not everyone owns these champs, but having even 5 of these champs in ur deck is enough to play some of these matchups u mentioned. The draft rng is a whole diff topic but I hope u get my point.
    There are few hazard shift friendly power control champs
    here i was just talking bout power control champs for power gain nodes , wasnt talking bout both power gain and hazard shifts. just trying to clarify.
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    edited January 31
    TotemCorruption said:

    Seyuoh said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    I came at you wrong earlier and I will admit that, I’m mature enough to realize when I’ve acted the opposite. I was running a high fever, lightheaded, basically a scinus infection and was ill due to it.
    However, for future reference- I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about.

    Also, I hit C6 for the first time today- so I won’t be taking a break from the mode; but maybe laying off grinding it as much as I have.
    Anyways, have a good day.
    Also, you pat yourself on the back for your own maturity, blame your vile comments on what sounds like a common cold, and then self-congratulate yourself for making it to C6.
    I have to ask, what planet are you from where this is reasonable behavior?
    Pat myself on the back for being mature? You must’ve always won that drawing the straws game as a kid, because you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
    You say my comments are vile, yet the people who instigated me got no response from you. Not that I care that much, as referenced by how long it took me to respond to this; unlike you and others I don’t live on this forum.
    Also, I brought up me hitting C6- to show that I won’t be taking a break from BG’s for a while; so as to grind the leaderboard more.
    I appreciate you trying to insult me or get me started though, that was pretty cute.
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    Seyuoh said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    I came at you wrong earlier and I will admit that, I’m mature enough to realize when I’ve acted the opposite. I was running a high fever, lightheaded, basically a scinus infection and was ill due to it.
    However, for future reference- I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about.

    Also, I hit C6 for the first time today- so I won’t be taking a break from the mode; but maybe laying off grinding it as much as I have.
    Anyways, have a good day.
    Also, you pat yourself on the back for your own maturity, blame your vile comments on what sounds like a common cold, and then self-congratulate yourself for making it to C6.
    I have to ask, what planet are you from where this is reasonable behavior?
    Not to mention, I just went back in my response that sparked all this rebuttal- and I didn’t even say “I never complain” I said “I don’t complain about metas (or I try not to at least) unless they are power gain related”
    I self admitted myself, that I TRY not to.
    Anyways, I don’t care enough past this to keep responding to any of you. So, peace
  • SeyuohSeyuoh Member Posts: 265 ★★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    Seyuoh said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Seyuoh said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Which meta would be better suit for you. I keep seeing players complain about every meta but none suggesting what they would prefer. No matter the meta, the bigger accounts will always have an advantage since they will have more counters available to them so which meta will make the playing field more even. That is the question I would like to know. Which meta would provide a more even playing field for everyone. I'm guessing none since with every meta there's always post about how it's unfair to someone.

    Nah, I love metas that put typically overshadowed or overlooked champs in the spotlight.
    For example, I’m very very much looking forward to the safeguard meta- where my max sig R3 Emma Frost will shine on defense.
    I don’t complain about metas typically (or I try not to at least) unless they’re power gain related.
    Because then you take most of the skill out of the mode, and make it a “Who’s AI will be more or less cooperative” matchup.
    It’s just not fun at all.


    There is also a power gain meta you complain about too, but since you said you complain about power gain metas, I left that off. I only went back to November also.
    I came at you wrong earlier and I will admit that, I’m mature enough to realize when I’ve acted the opposite. I was running a high fever, lightheaded, basically a scinus infection and was ill due to it.
    However, for future reference- I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about.

    Also, I hit C6 for the first time today- so I won’t be taking a break from the mode; but maybe laying off grinding it as much as I have.
    Anyways, have a good day.
    "I’d appreciate you not undermining me; by going back to posts I’ve completely forgotten about."
    So you don't want to be held accountable for things you yourself said, simply because you've forgotten you said it. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
    Just keep piping off man, or whatever makes you feel better I guess. You cute keyboard warrior you <3
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