Bgs unfair

ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15
Can we all please vote to make bgs more easier and enjoyable to play, like seriously, at the minute you can only play if you have certain champs like decay or sugar pill. If you have none of these you ain't winning a single match...like me. Why is it that bgs is so unfair?
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  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,720 ★★★★★
    What progression level are you
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15
    Buttehrs said:

    What progression level are you

    As in story mode or on bgs itself? Bgs I'm only diamond 3 I think, story I'm paragon.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,720 ★★★★★
    Then you ought to have at least some champs that fit the meta. If not you need to rank some champs up. That's kinda the point of bgs. Having a wide variety in your roster
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,163 ★★★★★
    There are two limitations that exist that nearly every player will experience at least one of: roster strength/diversity and skill. BGs is hard early on for players simply because you need to develop both, so you hit a cap. Low level players shouldn't have an easy road to all the rewards just because they want them. BGs is setup so you have to earn them. So you hit your cap one season, then come back improved for the next season, and you keep snowballing until you've developed a diverse roster that can handle a multitude of metas (similar to roster requirements for AW and story content these days, so they're really not extra rank ups) and eventually it becomes "easier". If you're going to play the game mode, then you need to play along and develop a roster and skills that makes you more competitive. Making the content easier isn't the way forward.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Battlegrounds is open competition

    If you make the meta easier, you will still lose to a 7* rank 3 juggernaut who will end the fight in under 30 seconds and 52k points
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    There are two limitations that exist that nearly every player will experience at least one of: roster strength/diversity and skill. BGs is hard early on for players simply because you need to develop both, so you hit a cap. Low level players shouldn't have an easy road to all the rewards just because they want them. BGs is setup so you have to earn them. So you hit your cap one season, then come back improved for the next season, and you keep snowballing until you've developed a diverse roster that can handle a multitude of metas (similar to roster requirements for AW and story content these days, so they're really not extra rank ups) and eventually it becomes "easier". If you're going to play the game mode, then you need to play along and develop a roster and skills that makes you more competitive. Making the content easier isn't the way forward.

    You must be a wale with all the money in the world then because if you're a free to play player and do not have the resources to rank up champions then it's almost impossible..and this is the problem, it's a game mode that's available for everyone to play but it forces you to have good champs/ roster, you also can't pick the champions you win out of crystals so what do you do? and please don't tell me it's a skill issue, I hate that term.
  • IronwarriorIronwarrior Member Posts: 72
    im paragon and have gotten enough characters to compete without too much focus on the meta also I'm diamond 1 and I can confirm above diamond 1 is no place for a fresh - mid paragon so you're not exactly in the wrong tier
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Chrisp said:

    There are two limitations that exist that nearly every player will experience at least one of: roster strength/diversity and skill. BGs is hard early on for players simply because you need to develop both, so you hit a cap. Low level players shouldn't have an easy road to all the rewards just because they want them. BGs is setup so you have to earn them. So you hit your cap one season, then come back improved for the next season, and you keep snowballing until you've developed a diverse roster that can handle a multitude of metas (similar to roster requirements for AW and story content these days, so they're really not extra rank ups) and eventually it becomes "easier". If you're going to play the game mode, then you need to play along and develop a roster and skills that makes you more competitive. Making the content easier isn't the way forward.

    You must be a wale with all the money in the world then because if you're a free to play player and do not have the resources to rank up champions then it's almost impossible..and this is the problem, it's a game mode that's available for everyone to play but it forces you to have good champs/ roster, you also can't pick the champions you win out of crystals so what do you do? and please don't tell me it's a skill issue, I hate that term.
    The best analogy for battlegrounds is a F1 competition

    You are the driver and your deck is the car

    Some players spend huge amounts of money and they have a better car than you

    Some players train everyday and become better drivers

    It's a combination of both factors
    You need to be a better driver with a competitive car to win races

    If you say it's not skill issue den it's a car issue, you don't have a overall strong deck of champions

    Or maybe both, you need to play more to be better and you need stronger champions in your deck

    Rome wasn't built in a day, we all gone through that period where we lost every match but we kept fighting to be better in future
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,033 ★★★★★
    Skill issue
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    im paragon and have gotten enough characters to compete without too much focus on the meta also I'm diamond 1 and I can confirm above diamond 1 is no place for a fresh - mid paragon so you're not exactly in the wrong tier

    Maybe you've chosen the right champs to rank up which suits this meta but when I select decay or sugar pill champs on my roster, I only have about 6 champs that are worthy for it. I have decent champs and strong ones too but just not the right ones for this meta. And it sucks because I really want to play bgs but having over 20 loses in a row is just messing me up.
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,163 ★★★★★
    Chrisp said:

    There are two limitations that exist that nearly every player will experience at least one of: roster strength/diversity and skill. BGs is hard early on for players simply because you need to develop both, so you hit a cap. Low level players shouldn't have an easy road to all the rewards just because they want them. BGs is setup so you have to earn them. So you hit your cap one season, then come back improved for the next season, and you keep snowballing until you've developed a diverse roster that can handle a multitude of metas (similar to roster requirements for AW and story content these days, so they're really not extra rank ups) and eventually it becomes "easier". If you're going to play the game mode, then you need to play along and develop a roster and skills that makes you more competitive. Making the content easier isn't the way forward.

    You must be a wale with all the money in the world then because if you're a free to play player and do not have the resources to rank up champions then it's almost impossible..and this is the problem, it's a game mode that's available for everyone to play but it forces you to have good champs/ roster, you also can't pick the champions you win out of crystals so what do you do? and please don't tell me it's a skill issue, I hate that term.
    That's an unfair characterization. No one owes you anything just because you can't spend. That's a more entitled attitude than those that do spend have. I am far from a whale. I buy that sigil and that's it.
    The game mode doesn't "force" you to do anything. And you're right, it's a game mode that is available for everyone to play, which means the only fair route is one where you should be able to play against anyone that is playing it, so long as everyone continues to go after the same pool of rewards.
    I didn't say you had a skill issue, I said that was one of the two issues that players may face. But you clearly have a roster strength/diversity issue, which can and will improve over time as you continue to play. While RNG plays a role, the time and energy you put into it will have a significant impact.
    As the game mode stands now, everyone is going after the same rewards (store not included). If you want the best rewards, then it is only fair that you fight the bigger players to get them. As your roster grows, your reward cap increases. The only other alternative that you could argue for is a lower level BGs for players that want it easy, but with significantly reduced and capped rewards. Right now there is no ceiling above you outside of where roster and skills can take you, and both of those can improve every single season as you put more time into the game.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    I can show you mine if you want to see

    I'm in GC now
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 4,232 ★★★★★
    Tech Issue
    Which smartphone do you play?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,720 ★★★★★
    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    Sometimes it very much is the correct answer though. Not saying it is for you, but some players absolutely lack skills. And part of that issue is due to the nerfs of act 6 and subsequent acts being easier than they probably should be.
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you


  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,033 ★★★★★
    Chrisp said:

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you


    You not having higher rank champs is a skill issue in itself. There is nothing stopping you from getting 7 star r3s. There is nothing stopping you from getting more stars. There is nothing stopping you from getting valiant. Skill issue.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Chrisp said:

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you


    Don't focus on battlegrounds as a paragon

    Focus on getting to valiant as a priority

    When you become valiant, you will get more resources and can rank up more champions and naturally you will do better in battlegrounds
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 8,031 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    Sometimes it very much is the correct answer though. Not saying it is for you, but some players absolutely lack skills. And part of that issue is due to the nerfs of act 6 and subsequent acts being easier than they probably should be.
    Hey I'll take this over the direction they were trying to go with og act 7
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    Chrisp said:

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you


    Don't focus on battlegrounds as a paragon

    Focus on getting to valiant as a priority

    When you become valiant, you will get more resources and can rank up more champions and naturally you will do better in battlegrounds
    One of the most useful bits of information someone has given me, thankyou. So focus on story mode instead of battlegrounds?
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Chrisp said:

    Chrisp said:

    Chrisp said:

    Skill issue

    I hate that term, it's got nothing to do with skill. Such a lazy answer
    I don't believe anyone is lowly skilled player but I do believe that you just don't have enough strong champions

    Post your battlegrounds deck and let us help you


    Don't focus on battlegrounds as a paragon

    Focus on getting to valiant as a priority

    When you become valiant, you will get more resources and can rank up more champions and naturally you will do better in battlegrounds
    One of the most useful bits of information someone has given me, thankyou. So focus on story mode instead of battlegrounds?
    Focus on meeting the requirements to be valiant

    Story mode requirement and champion rank up requirement
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★



    I just show you my 30 strongest champions by power rating as reference
    I’m in GC now
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    I get whales every matchup and I still win by skill
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,922 ★★★★★
    Im going to mention my old response again...

    Make baby leagues for these guys.
    Obviously with lesser rewards.

    Anyone who jumps in Big league will face everyone with no pity matchmaking.
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    I get whales every matchup and I still win by skill

    You're answers are not needed when they are like that, all I hear from you is, flexing flexing flexing. You're champs compared to mine are much more suited for the meta, again not a skill issue
  • ChrispChrisp Member Posts: 15

    Im going to mention my old response again...

    Make baby leagues for these guys.
    Obviously with lesser rewards.

    Anyone who jumps in Big league will face everyone with no pity matchmaking.

    Yeh, not bad idea to be fair
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,922 ★★★★★




    I just show you my 30 strongest champions by power rating as reference
    I’m in GC now

    Your screenshot game is not on point, nor are those stat focuses.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    Chrisp said:

    I get whales every matchup and I still win by skill

    You're answers are not needed when they are like that, all I hear from you is, flexing flexing flexing. You're champs compared to mine are much more suited for the meta, again not a skill issue
    I played battlegrounds since season 1 and my first deck had 5* champions 2 years ago when battlegrounds was created

    So the tried and tested advice is keep playing, even when you lose

    Get as much rewards as you can from battlegrounds mode

    Don't focus on the winning and losing, it's just a mobile game

    Focus on improving your deck every season and slowly you will see better results

    I went through what you are going through now so that's why I understand where you are coming from
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 561 ★★★
    It's the same with life

    Don't complain, just keep moving forward step by step steadily

    Complaining doesn't improve your situation, it only just for venting your frustrations
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