Trouble with 9.1.4 Black Widow CV - Void isn't taking her down with Petrify

UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,716 ★★★★★
Hey y'all. I'm REALLY struggling and stuck with this 9.1.4 boss Black Widow Clair Voyent.

I've seen all the guides and YouTube videos for suggestions.

Who I've tried - Count Nefaria 7* r2 unawakened, and Mr. Negative 7* r1 duped. Both were laughable and I died pretty easily without doing any sort of real damage.

Then, tried with 7* r1 unawakened Void. Seeing how you need to get two petrifies on BW and then just stay away and don't hit, and let her regens add up and then tick away at her health. But one of either two things always happens - she's SO aggressive that I can't get distance and either get cornered, or have to hit her to push her away and she looses the regens/degens (or I accidentally intercept when I'm trying to hit in to her block to cause distance and the Petrifies go away). OR all of Voids Intimidating Prescences get maxed out naturally and so they all expire, leading to her immediately healing back up to 100%.



(She was ticking down and got to under 40% when all the Intimidating Prescences maxed out and expired so she immediately healed all the way back up)



So who do I use or how do I avoid taking an extreme beating with any of the 3 I already tried?

Mastery - Despair, but only level 1.

Who I DON'T have - a ranked up and high sig'd Captain America IW. So he's not an option.


I saw *someone* say Mr. Sinister - has anyone actually used him? Does he work? I've got a 7* r3.

Comments

  • Darthbane3141Darthbane3141 Member Posts: 670 ★★★
    I used Hulk and nuked her down in 4 revives, it worked but was expensive
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  • CdjcdkjCdjcdkj Member Posts: 115
    edited February 3
    I don't think you used count correctly then
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,716 ★★★★★
    Cdjcdkj said:

    I don't think you used count correctly then

    Probably not but he's not someone I'm quite used to yet so I just tried to do what I saw in the videos but I wasn't able to do much damage before her aggressive AI just knocked me out.

    That's why I'm asking for help lol.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 736 ★★★
    Just use quicksilver if you have 6* rank 4 at least

    unduped void won’t work with only 1 point in despair

    count should be able to handle her just parry a bunch and build up the debuffs and go into iconic overcharge
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 751 ★★★
    Yeah, I mentioned this in the other thread, but the signature ability will help your issue. It can still be done with void unduped, just requires more skill. Whereas with the sig ability, it requires almost no effort.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,716 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    Just use quicksilver if you have 6* rank 4 at least

    unduped void won’t work with only 1 point in despair

    count should be able to handle her just parry a bunch and build up the debuffs and go into iconic overcharge

    Yeah, I mentioned this in the other thread, but the signature ability will help your issue. It can still be done with void unduped, just requires more skill. Whereas with the sig ability, it requires almost no effort.


    Thank you guys. I saw so many videos saying you needed Despair without mentioning how much. And also people's videos saying unduped worked just fine. I feel like it's as much 'luck' as it is 'skill' at this point, because if I don't end up getting Petrify's on her until like the 5th or 6th debuff, making it near impossible to get her killed before they all disappear from max intimidating presences.

    I need to figure out Nefaria, but I was just doing the parry method and couldn't get any sort of real damage.

    EDIT: Thanks - I tried Nefaria again - success!

  • CdjcdkjCdjcdkj Member Posts: 115
    I just did it again and recorded it just realized I couldn't post it here
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 751 ★★★

    Wolf911 said:

    Just use quicksilver if you have 6* rank 4 at least

    unduped void won’t work with only 1 point in despair

    count should be able to handle her just parry a bunch and build up the debuffs and go into iconic overcharge

    Yeah, I mentioned this in the other thread, but the signature ability will help your issue. It can still be done with void unduped, just requires more skill. Whereas with the sig ability, it requires almost no effort.


    Thank you guys. I saw so many videos saying you needed Despair without mentioning how much. And also people's videos saying unduped worked just fine. I feel like it's as much 'luck' as it is 'skill' at this point, because if I don't end up getting Petrify's on her until like the 5th or 6th debuff, making it near impossible to get her killed before they all disappear from max intimidating presences.

    I need to figure out Nefaria, but I was just doing the parry method and couldn't get any sort of real damage.

    EDIT: Thanks - I tried Nefaria again - success!

    Congrats! I feel like these frustrating fights end up being the most enjoyable once we figure them out. Because if they were just all easy, it would get pretty boring.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,504 ★★★★★
    Dang a little late to this post. That fight is a biiiissshhhh if you don't have a permanent petrify. I used my 6* awakened Void. I kept attacking to back her up to her corner, then parried and PATIENTLY waited for just one of Void's slow 🫏 petrify to kick in. Here's a vid I made of it:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/cbR2GtzzR9g?si=liU7BOZ1hlawkDcf
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,716 ★★★★★

    Wolf911 said:

    Just use quicksilver if you have 6* rank 4 at least

    unduped void won’t work with only 1 point in despair

    count should be able to handle her just parry a bunch and build up the debuffs and go into iconic overcharge

    Yeah, I mentioned this in the other thread, but the signature ability will help your issue. It can still be done with void unduped, just requires more skill. Whereas with the sig ability, it requires almost no effort.


    Thank you guys. I saw so many videos saying you needed Despair without mentioning how much. And also people's videos saying unduped worked just fine. I feel like it's as much 'luck' as it is 'skill' at this point, because if I don't end up getting Petrify's on her until like the 5th or 6th debuff, making it near impossible to get her killed before they all disappear from max intimidating presences.

    I need to figure out Nefaria, but I was just doing the parry method and couldn't get any sort of real damage.

    EDIT: Thanks - I tried Nefaria again - success!

    Congrats! I feel like these frustrating fights end up being the most enjoyable once we figure them out. Because if they were just all easy, it would get pretty boring.

    I mean, I want to talk about how fun slash annoying they were.

    But I used literally ZERO revives on my first go around of Ochorori - then for attempts 2 and 3 - took me around 29 revives each time to get to the long where I could sp3 spam lol.
  • TheSaithTheSaith Member Posts: 644 ★★★
    i used duped r4 void . dont hit her . just parry again and again , parray move back , parry move back , parry hold she will move back , don't swipe on her , let void walk parry again.
    this pattern worked for me
  • VoidnullVoidnull Member Posts: 17
    I use modok stack 60 regen and one sp1 she was ko
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,504 ★★★★★
    Voidnull said:

    I use modok stack 60 regen and one sp1 she was ko

    Modok? Interesting. What does his Sp 1 do?
  • VoidnullVoidnull Member Posts: 17
    Reverse regen
  • VoidnullVoidnull Member Posts: 17
    Voidnull said:

    Reverse regen

    During his sp 1 he reverse all regen
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,504 ★★★★★
    Voidnull said:

    Voidnull said:

    Reverse regen

    During his sp 1 he reverse all regen
    Oh wow. Nice!
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,151 ★★★★
    Voidnull said:

    Voidnull said:

    Reverse regen

    During his sp 1 he reverse all regen
    And power gain. Even combat. He's a bish
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 542 ★★★
    One sp1 from Nefaria and that fight is over. MODOK is a good shout. People forget how powerful that heal reversal is on his sp1.
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