AXE =SP1 DPPLD Sword= Sp2 PPLDDU They are random on activation but follow same pattern.
Thanks for this. Not that I've defeated him, but I know what to do now.
That and I saw seatins guide. He said look at his hands: Right hand cross his body for Axe, sp1 Left hand is sword, sp2
And Fintech said in a chat that: 2 hands - sp1 axe 1 hand - sp2 sword It definitely made some things clearer.
The third phase where the extra combo mechanics come into play, (This is from my own experience) speak it out loud. Medium heavy, dash back medium, medium special. It helps a lot. The avoiding special is the easy part since it's a same pattern. 4 actions ( PPLD ) are common in both patterns.
The sword can show on any as his specials are like glykhan random
I'll kindly ask people to do the fight and decide for themselves.
First hit being the kick. If it starts with axe it's sp1 If it starts with sword it's sp2.
It could have made a world of difference if the sp1 started with a kick, and the sp2 with a punch, just so you had an extra second to prepare. Throw in the phase 3 attacks you have to do after and the fact the added speed each phase messes with any chance of using muscle memory to give you just a little help, any little indication just to ease us in would have been happily accepted. Throw this "having to remember 80 different things" for the second or third time we encounter this guy in future content
I absolutely am not arguing what the fight should be like. Sure it would have made it easier. It still is a harer fight than normal but not bs level of abyss collector. But what I can do right now is try to understand how to tackle this at its given form. They are a business and I'm a non paying customer. I'll deal with their shiz, which is by keeping calm. This is what happens when people rush against a new boss and expecting it to be a cake walk. Nothing I can say at this point will make the people raging not rage. But still, I must suggest to give it some time, it's day 1. Watch others suffer before bringing the suffering onto yourselves. Lol
I don't care about the game like I used to. I stopped raging over it. Life's been much more peaceful. This fight asks too many things from an old body, Reacting time to be specific. If I can't keep up with it so be it. I'll chill and find my leisure some way or the other.
I'll mention one thing that many people like and I absolutely don't, 'Reading and evaluating new champs kits and abilities'. I haven't done that for many many months. I just watch a video on fast forward when something needs explaining. Just like that, we will get a lot of guides on Ares soon. And Im sure it will make this fight somewhat palatable.
You have grown up family men playing this game. Some of these guys, hardworking men go out working their butt off and then come home to enjoy some time off chilling and playing a mobile game and Kabam think its wise for them to go back to school and memorize specials animations and actions to perform. Performing the actions in itself is a challenge, getting the timing right. What would it have cost to give a callout on the screen? Before anyone calls our MSD and co, these guys play the game for a living or as a side hustle. They're not the majority playing the game even as end-gamer players. Modes shouldn't be catered for them. Its a job for them. Heck, they make money from it as well. After a full day of life’s hustle, nobody gots the time for these unnecessary mental challenge. Kabam always trying hard to get to the wrong side of things.
I agree with everything mentioned in this thread. I honestly really enjoyed completed the actions during the special attacks, but that's not really fun if you only get the chance to do it every 5th special attack. Maybe my reaction time is too slow, maybe I didn't pay close enough attention to any indicators on the screen, but I just couldn't consistently read what special attack I had to counter. Missing a few special attacks wouldn't be a big issue if they weren't literally the only source of gaining damage during the fight, so the more specials I didn't counter, the more frustrating the entire fight became. In my opinion, that's just bad game design. Especially during the last phase, there was literally no time to react to anything, so I just ended up doing 5 intercepts, dying to a light intercept, reviving and repeat. That literally resulted in me countering not a single special attack, which should have been the main aspect of the fight. Overall, not entirely awful, but not a boss fight I would consider particularly enjoyable. Hopefully my next attempts will be better.
I just completed the Hulkling path without a single successful action against his specials, just brute forced it. I think one change to make it a bit better would be change the parry action to just block. The timing on getting the proper parry is such a small window.
Pro tip from someone in Nagase's comment section: watch his eyes when he points at you. If they flash once, it's a sp1, they flash twice it's a sp2. Went from 10 single revives and 3 team revives to 1 team revive and 2 single revives on ares with this strat
You have grown up family men playing this game. Some of these guys, hardworking men go out working their butt off and then come home to enjoy some time off chilling and playing a mobile game and Kabam think its wise for them to go back to school and memorize specials animations and actions to perform. Performing the actions in itself is a challenge, getting the timing right. What would it have cost to give a callout on the screen? Before anyone calls our MSD and co, these guys play the game for a living or as a side hustle. They're not the majority playing the game even as end-gamer players. Modes shouldn't be catered for them. Its a job for them. Heck, they make money from it as well. After a full day of life’s hustle, nobody gots the time for these unnecessary mental challenge. Kabam always trying hard to get to the wrong side of things.
I just completed the Hulkling path without a single successful action against his specials, just brute forced it. I think one change to make it a bit better would be change the parry action to just block. The timing on getting the proper parry is such a small window.
for earlies phases makes sense, but as the speed increases, the action window decreases, and ultimately u are most likely to end up parrying. so while its better, but it doesnt really change much.
I just completed the Hulkling path without a single successful action against his specials, just brute forced it. I think one change to make it a bit better would be change the parry action to just block. The timing on getting the proper parry is such a small window.
Some are saying that Ares' specials are slower in the first phase and then speeds up in later phases, which didn't happen for me. In my experience they were quick right from phase 1 until last (along with the now common initial frame skip), so I never got the leeway to get familiar with the actions.
I just completed the Hulkling path without a single successful action against his specials, just brute forced it. I think one change to make it a bit better would be change the parry action to just block. The timing on getting the proper parry is such a small window.
Amazingly I was extremely consistent at timing the parries - I just had no clue why I 100% missed the light attack. Never completed a full special action either.
I was just frustrated more than anything that I couldn’t tell if I was late or early with the light attack. Something like a “late” or “early” call out would have been extremely helpful… like with Kate’s special release.
Pro tip from someone in Nagase's comment section: watch his eyes when he points at you. If they flash once, it's a sp1, they flash twice it's a sp2. Went from 10 single revives and 3 team revives to 1 team revive and 2 single revives on ares with this strat
Ares: I heard you like to play games so I bring a game to play while playing the game you are playing and more games to play while playing the game inside the game you are playing and oh you get the point.
It's actually not so bad, by the third path, you you'll have him completely down, it's actually probably one of my favorite fights in the game. If you really don't want to practice it though just, just bring juggernaut and you can revive your way through pretty easily and because of the unstoppable charges, you can get through his final phase pretty. Cheaply as well.
The only thing I dislike is that the specials are random. If they were rotating between SP1 and SP2, it would all be totally fine. Just one thing: Is the final phase bugged? It says in his kit that one of the Immortality Passives is removed at the start of the fight, but that didn't happen for me at all.
The only thing I dislike is that the specials are random. If they were rotating between SP1 and SP2, it would all be totally fine. Just one thing: Is the final phase bugged? It says in his kit that one of the Immortality Passives is removed at the start of the fight, but that didn't happen for me at all.
That part is bugged, no passives are removed at the start
The only thing I dislike is that the specials are random. If they were rotating between SP1 and SP2, it would all be totally fine. Just one thing: Is the final phase bugged? It says in his kit that one of the Immortality Passives is removed at the start of the fight, but that didn't happen for me at all.
That part is bugged, no passives are removed at the start
Ngl, the specials were not too bad. And I genuinely didn't notice it speeding up. As long as I managed to get the first action right, I was pretty consistently doing it correctly. This was my first run as well. To be honest, I did get pretty much only sp1s until maybe a bit under 70 percent health which made things easier, but practice and you guys can do it!
I'm having a nightmare trying to intercept him, the ai is behaving extremely random. I just spent 3 team revives and a lot more single ones and could only get him to 35 charges, it's so annoying
I'm having a nightmare trying to intercept him, the ai is behaving extremely random. I just spent 3 team revives and a lot more single ones and could only get him to 35 charges, it's so annoying
I had a brief intercept problem but it went quick so I waved it off as a skill issue on my part and finished of the fight. Maybe Ares generally has a more passive ai then tho. Bait out a special from him, you can remove charges quickly that way.
AXE =SP1 DPPLD Sword= Sp2 PPLDDU They are random on activation but follow same pattern.
Thanks for this. Not that I've defeated him, but I know what to do now.
That and I saw seatins guide. He said look at his hands: Right hand cross his body for Axe, sp1 Left hand is sword, sp2
And Fintech said in a chat that: 2 hands - sp1 axe 1 hand - sp2 sword It definitely made some things clearer.
The third phase where the extra combo mechanics come into play, (This is from my own experience) speak it out loud. Medium heavy, dash back medium, medium special. It helps a lot. The avoiding special is the easy part since it's a same pattern. 4 actions ( PPLD ) are common in both patterns.
Ok I got the eye thing. 1 flash, sp1, 2 flash sp2
I look at his back. That's where the weapons flash first. I 100% explored it. Last time inl fought him took about 5 revives bc i was tired and made stupid mistakes.
It’s not even memorising what you have to do. That’s fine. It’s trying to react to what special he’s using. I’ve beaten him two times now and not once have I been able to parry the second sword attack of the SP2. The reaction time seemingly required is just physically too quick for me. And this is the guy that’s the repeating boss.
Currently got my hand submerged in boiling water and I’m having more fun than fighting Ares🫡
So coming back to this after fully exploring the quest, completing the actions for every special isn’t too bad once you know what you’re doing. Actually might be more difficult when it’s slowed down at the start of the fight.
The reaction time for knowing what special he’s doing to actually completely the action is still madness to me. I only got it down due to Nagase’s tip of pausing after his kick to see which special it is. Was literally using that until the final KO screen played. Fair fight aside from that, but it is kind of the entire crux of the fight unfortunately
Guys, I don't want to create another post just to ask this, so:
What are your strategy when intercepting? I'm still trying to finish Ares and the intercept's what's killing me. I've what's a lot of videos of YouTubers doing this fight and it seems so easy to intercept, what am I missing?
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But what I can do right now is try to understand how to tackle this at its given form. They are a business and I'm a non paying customer. I'll deal with their shiz, which is by keeping calm. This is what happens when people rush against a new boss and expecting it to be a cake walk.
Nothing I can say at this point will make the people raging not rage.
But still, I must suggest to give it some time, it's day 1. Watch others suffer before bringing the suffering onto yourselves. Lol
I don't care about the game like I used to.
I stopped raging over it. Life's been much more peaceful. This fight asks too many things from an old body, Reacting time to be specific. If I can't keep up with it so be it. I'll chill and find my leisure some way or the other.
I'll mention one thing that many people like and I absolutely don't, 'Reading and evaluating new champs kits and abilities'. I haven't done that for many many months. I just watch a video on fast forward when something needs explaining.
Just like that, we will get a lot of guides on Ares soon. And Im sure it will make this fight somewhat palatable.
Missing a few special attacks wouldn't be a big issue if they weren't literally the only source of gaining damage during the fight, so the more specials I didn't counter, the more frustrating the entire fight became. In my opinion, that's just bad game design. Especially during the last phase, there was literally no time to react to anything, so I just ended up doing 5 intercepts, dying to a light intercept, reviving and repeat. That literally resulted in me countering not a single special attack, which should have been the main aspect of the fight.
Overall, not entirely awful, but not a boss fight I would consider particularly enjoyable. Hopefully my next attempts will be better.
I was just frustrated more than anything that I couldn’t tell if I was late or early with the light attack. Something like a “late” or “early” call out would have been extremely helpful… like with Kate’s special release.
I heard you like to play games so I bring a game to play while playing the game you are playing and more games to play while playing the game inside the game you are playing and oh you get the point.
Just one thing: Is the final phase bugged? It says in his kit that one of the Immortality Passives is removed at the start of the fight, but that didn't happen for me at all.
Let's hope for some compensation then
The reaction time for knowing what special he’s doing to actually completely the action is still madness to me. I only got it down due to Nagase’s tip of pausing after his kick to see which special it is. Was literally using that until the final KO screen played. Fair fight aside from that, but it is kind of the entire crux of the fight unfortunately
What are your strategy when intercepting? I'm still trying to finish Ares and the intercept's what's killing me. I've what's a lot of videos of YouTubers doing this fight and it seems so easy to intercept, what am I missing?