It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
My response isn't to be constructive to that particular person. My response is to all those who call anyone who has a different opinion shills, Kabam employees, etc.. I'm just so tired of it. I also never said people can't make complaint posts. But don't expect not to have opposition to those complaints.
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
My response isn't to be constructive to that particular person. My response is to all those who call anyone who has a different opinion shills, Kabam employees, etc.. I'm just so tired of it. I also never said people can't make complaint posts. But don't expect not to have opposition to those complaints.
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
I have been accused of being a white knight and truth is I don't defend the comoany, I just disagree with some people. And about asking to stop posting or talking, I think that's why people call you out. You don't do it cause you don't have any authority to do so really, not cause it comes from the kindness of your heart or the sake of the discussion.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
My response isn't to be constructive to that particular person. My response is to all those who call anyone who has a different opinion shills, Kabam employees, etc.. I'm just so tired of it. I also never said people can't make complaint posts. But don't expect not to have opposition to those complaints.
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
I understand that, but if being constructive is your main goal, wouldn’t having a respectful response be more effective? It would also be taking the higher road.
BG, the main reason most people spemd on the game, has had a single rewards update since October 2023, 16 months. YouTubers are literally posting videos saying it needs to change, Epic Whale is saying he'll stop spending and yet ZERO response from Kabam
AQ Raid has finally had a reward update but normal AQ hasn't? We don't even get t3a, 75% of AQ is ****!
EQ has nothing, like nothing. Paragauntlet isn't even worth the rewards not mind still being held behind TB 100%
And the last live stream just felt like a sale presentation, I want Kabam to sell, I like buying stuff but this latest plat track is literally worse than the last since you've taken away the miniscule ammount of 7* shards at the end, why? And for a champ we know nothing about, what if he's a dudd?
And Dave is finally talking on forums but I don't see much value on what is being said, comments on we will improve, improve how? The excuse of "last team did this for 8 years, we've been doing it for 8 months" isn't good enough, not when you have a player base asking for answers and you don't respond. It's pretty simple forum managers manage the forums. We still have highlighted posts from a year ago on forums, that's not managing the forums guys.
I don't know, the game is just stale. I've done 2 paths of epoch because I can't be bothered to chase a r4 who's main use is BG when Kabam don't care about BG so why should I?
The amount of people who think you can just snap your fingers and make everything better is crazy. Just because Dave isn't saying what you specifically want him to, doesn't make what he says invalid.
Then you should stop jump to respond to any thread because what you said is always invalid
Now every valuable reward either behind the endgame content or for spending. This is a clear message from the game team to players base “ No more easy free to play “. Dave or any Mod just do whatever Kabam required, what they said is what Kabam wants, not what you want OP
BG, the main reason most people spemd on the game, has had a single rewards update since October 2023, 16 months. YouTubers are literally posting videos saying it needs to change, Epic Whale is saying he'll stop spending and yet ZERO response from Kabam
AQ Raid has finally had a reward update but normal AQ hasn't? We don't even get t3a, 75% of AQ is ****!
EQ has nothing, like nothing. Paragauntlet isn't even worth the rewards not mind still being held behind TB 100%
And the last live stream just felt like a sale presentation, I want Kabam to sell, I like buying stuff but this latest plat track is literally worse than the last since you've taken away the miniscule ammount of 7* shards at the end, why? And for a champ we know nothing about, what if he's a dudd?
And Dave is finally talking on forums but I don't see much value on what is being said, comments on we will improve, improve how? The excuse of "last team did this for 8 years, we've been doing it for 8 months" isn't good enough, not when you have a player base asking for answers and you don't respond. It's pretty simple forum managers manage the forums. We still have highlighted posts from a year ago on forums, that's not managing the forums guys.
I don't know, the game is just stale. I've done 2 paths of epoch because I can't be bothered to chase a r4 who's main use is BG when Kabam don't care about BG so why should I?
The amount of people who think you can just snap your fingers and make everything better is crazy. Just because Dave isn't saying what you specifically want him to, doesn't make what he says invalid.
Then you should stop jump to respond to any thread because what you said is always invalid
The game is so lame right now,,.just saying. It’s but a whimper of its former self. It’s almost as if they added the traders outpost store so they absolutely wouldn’t have to work on any side quests, or invest in any creativity towards them. We still get the usual “saga flops” and outdated Bg’s and Eq to look forward to. …Ho hum…Mcoc has become a big yawn 🥱.
Sincerely,..one who’s only been running auto play in Labyrinth everyday to clear the daily super event …xo.
The game is so lame right now,,.just saying. It’s but a whimper of its former self. It’s almost as if they added the traders outpost store so they absolutely wouldn’t have to work on any side quests, or invest in any creativity towards them. We still get the usual “saga flops” and outdated Bg’s and Eq to look forward to. …Ho hum…Mcoc has become a big yawn 🥱.
Sincerely,..one who’s only been running auto play in Labyrinth everyday to clear the daily super event …xo.
The worst part is at this point, even the traders outpost doesn't make up for the lack of reward buffs cause it's not just BGs and SQ, EQ and AQ are also so bad and outdated can't believe it's really been this long with no changes whatsoever.
The game is so lame right now,,.just saying. It’s but a whimper of its former self. It’s almost as if they added the traders outpost store so they absolutely wouldn’t have to work on any side quests, or invest in any creativity towards them. We still get the usual “saga flops” and outdated Bg’s and Eq to look forward to. …Ho hum…Mcoc has become a big yawn 🥱.
Sincerely,..one who’s only been running auto play in Labyrinth everyday to clear the daily super event …xo.
The worst part is at this point, even the traders outpost doesn't make up for the lack of reward buffs cause it's not just BGs and SQ, EQ and AQ are also so bad and outdated can't believe it's really been this long with no changes whatsoever.
I agree,..but would like to add it’s nit just the rewards issue that comes to the forefront. The seemingly deliberate lack of creativity or any desire to create interest (in certain game Modes),…strikes me as odd.
I've put this on the table before but I really don't see another reason the game is at the state it's in right now...
What I believe is that while they are trying to encourage new players to "catch up" end game players are being effected with stale rewards.
Try not to think of this process from your own progression perspective but as a new players perspective. What is the best way to get new blood into this game (potentially spending players)? I would say easier story progression, permanent content which they can access asap and sales. These 3 things help boost any new players account in a very small time period.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
My response isn't to be constructive to that particular person. My response is to all those who call anyone who has a different opinion shills, Kabam employees, etc.. I'm just so tired of it. I also never said people can't make complaint posts. But don't expect not to have opposition to those complaints.
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
But why argue for the sake of arguing?
Yes, this is a complaint post just like many others like it. But the complaint is valid right? The rewards are out dated across the board and there's been complaints for months on interaction from the community team.
Just because one person has complained doesn't mean the problem is gone or we leave at one. people complain, the problem doesn't get resolved so people continue to complain until, guess what, the problem is resolved so why take it onto yourself to argue for no reason?
You don't add anything constructive, just complaining that people are complaining about the same issue that isn't being resolved.
This post has already had Dave reply and reading between the line, shows exactly what is going on and why things aren't running smoothly
But, the rewards are still outdated and I haven't seen anything on that issue being resolved. BG rewards have been getting complained about for the last 6-months and Kabam has done nothing, that doesn't mean we just stop, we continue to complain until there is action
The game is so lame right now,,.just saying. It’s but a whimper of its former self. It’s almost as if they added the traders outpost store so they absolutely wouldn’t have to work on any side quests, or invest in any creativity towards them. We still get the usual “saga flops” and outdated Bg’s and Eq to look forward to. …Ho hum…Mcoc has become a big yawn 🥱.
Sincerely,..one who’s only been running auto play in Labyrinth everyday to clear the daily super event …xo.
The worst part is at this point, even the traders outpost doesn't make up for the lack of reward buffs cause it's not just BGs and SQ, EQ and AQ are also so bad and outdated can't believe it's really been this long with no changes whatsoever.
I agree,..but would like to add it’s nit just the rewards issue that comes to the forefront. The seemingly deliberate lack of creativity or any desire to create interest (in certain game Modes),…strikes me as odd.
Oh yeah that's a whole other issue, thing is I'd be willing to tough it out if the rewards were worth it so if they at least buff the rewards, I can deal with the game being stale for a while until their creativity spikes again. If both of them remain as they are however I think I'll have about 3-6 months left of this and then go for another lengthy break.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
You can kick rocks too. You, PT_99 and private rogers. So sick at tired people like you thinking you can say anything you want and no one can disagree with you. Nothing I've said in years has ever shut a thread down. Probably been 5 years but you sit here acting like it's a daily occurrence. Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
Wym by private rogers? My profile is actually public you can look at it I never made my profile private there's literally no need to be private here I just hidden my email, not my profile lol. That must be a bug if you or anyone finds my profile private.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
You can kick rocks too. You, PT_99 and private rogers. So sick at tired people like you thinking you can say anything you want and no one can disagree with you. Nothing I've said in years has ever shut a thread down. Probably been 5 years but you sit here acting like it's a daily occurrence. Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
Wym by private rogers? My profile is actually public you can look at it I never made my profile private there's literally no need to be private here I just hidden my email, not my profile lol. That must be a bug if you or anyone finds my profile private.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
You can kick rocks too. You, PT_99 and private rogers. So sick at tired people like you thinking you can say anything you want and no one can disagree with you. Nothing I've said in years has ever shut a thread down. Probably been 5 years but you sit here acting like it's a daily occurrence. Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
Wym by private rogers? My profile is actually public you can look at it I never made my profile private there's literally no need to be private here I just hidden my email, not my profile lol. That must be a bug if you or anyone finds my profile private.
That was actually supposed to be an insult lol. Private is lower in rank to a captain in the army. Yet demon thinks he is not getting personal
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
You can kick rocks too. You, PT_99 and private rogers. So sick at tired people like you thinking you can say anything you want and no one can disagree with you. Nothing I've said in years has ever shut a thread down. Probably been 5 years but you sit here acting like it's a daily occurrence. Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
Wym by private rogers? My profile is actually public you can look at it I never made my profile private there's literally no need to be private here I just hidden my email, not my profile lol. That must be a bug if you or anyone finds my profile private.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
I mean this respectfully. If being constructive is your main concern, your responses could stand to be more constructive than they currently are.
And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
My response isn't to be constructive to that particular person. My response is to all those who call anyone who has a different opinion shills, Kabam employees, etc.. I'm just so tired of it. I also never said people can't make complaint posts. But don't expect not to have opposition to those complaints.
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
You say all this with such a moral superiority. Just because you haven’t physically or literally gotten a thread shut down doesn’t mean you don’t completely derail them with personal attacks or verbal gymnastics. You’re allowed to have an opinion. Just as OP is allowed to have his opinion. It’s hard to read your statements about being “constructive” (not in this particular message) and watch you pretend like you didn’t tell rogers, PT, and clobberin to kick rocks.
It's so funny to me how the multiple complaints about the current state of BGs and rewards in general always come from different forum users nobody has ever heard off for the most part, but the comments defending Kabam always come from the same apologists everyone already knows lol to anyone reading any replies from Demonzfyre GW or Buttehrs, do yourselves as well as everyone else a favor and just ignore them. They desperately derail threads and turn them into wars so they get closed down, it's all they do, zero constructive criticism or logic in anything they say.
You can kick rocks too. You, PT_99 and private rogers. So sick at tired people like you thinking you can say anything you want and no one can disagree with you. Nothing I've said in years has ever shut a thread down. Probably been 5 years but you sit here acting like it's a daily occurrence. Most of you don't know what constructive criticism even is. You think yelling about how bad rewards are or how bad a game mode sucks is constructive.
Even in this thread, it's hardly constructive. It's just bringing up topics that have already had many threads and many with mod comments. I'm going to continue to be me. I'm going to voice my opinion and respond how I want. Especially because I know it bothers you so damn much.
Wym by private rogers? My profile is actually public you can look at it I never made my profile private there's literally no need to be private here I just hidden my email, not my profile lol. That must be a bug if you or anyone finds my profile private.
That was actually supposed to be an insult lol. Private is lower in rank to a captain in the army. Yet demon thinks he is not getting personal
They are simply doing what they have done with every other game. Best predictor of future behavior, is past behavior. Always been a horrible company, in most ppls opinions, except for the 2-5 on here that area pitiful, bad actors lol. )
What would be ideal is for all rewards structure to be update quarterly. they don't do that either.
So instead the trend has been coming out with end game content like epoch of pain, ordeal, etc every other month and drain all our resources. thats the hidden plan LOL
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And if you’re allowed to “respond how you want” because “that’s who you are,” then others get the right to make complaint posts (this thread seems more reasonable than most) because “that’s how they are.”
If I make a post, people can say whatever they want. I haven't told anyone to stop posting, stop talking etc..
And about asking to stop posting or talking, I think that's why people call you out. You don't do it cause you don't have any authority to do so really, not cause it comes from the kindness of your heart or the sake of the discussion.
And in this case, OP was pretty respectful.
It’s but a whimper of its former self.
It’s almost as if they added the traders outpost store so they absolutely wouldn’t have to work on any side quests, or invest in any creativity towards them.
We still get the usual “saga flops” and outdated Bg’s and Eq to look forward to.
…Ho hum…Mcoc has become a big yawn 🥱.
Sincerely,..one who’s only been running auto play in Labyrinth everyday to clear the daily super event …xo.
The seemingly deliberate lack of creativity or any desire to create interest (in certain game
Modes),…strikes me as odd.
What I believe is that while they are trying to encourage new players to "catch up" end game players are being effected with stale rewards.
Try not to think of this process from your own progression perspective but as a new players perspective. What is the best way to get new blood into this game (potentially spending players)? I would say easier story progression, permanent content which they can access asap and sales. These 3 things help boost any new players account in a very small time period.
Yes, this is a complaint post just like many others like it. But the complaint is valid right? The rewards are out dated across the board and there's been complaints for months on interaction from the community team.
Just because one person has complained doesn't mean the problem is gone or we leave at one. people complain, the problem doesn't get resolved so people continue to complain until, guess what, the problem is resolved so why take it onto yourself to argue for no reason?
You don't add anything constructive, just complaining that people are complaining about the same issue that isn't being resolved.
This post has already had Dave reply and reading between the line, shows exactly what is going on and why things aren't running smoothly
But, the rewards are still outdated and I haven't seen anything on that issue being resolved. BG rewards have been getting complained about for the last 6-months and Kabam has done nothing, that doesn't mean we just stop, we continue to complain until there is action
That quip flew a good few miles over his head.
What would be ideal is for all rewards structure to be update quarterly. they don't do that either.
So instead the trend has been coming out with end game content like epoch of pain, ordeal, etc every other month and drain all our resources. thats the hidden plan LOL