What I think Kabam could add to the game

Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
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@KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel
1: Back issues- was such a fun mode doing old content with a twist like needing 1 stars, specific tags etc. We only got a handful and think there’s so much potential in that kind of content
2: A setting in BGs that makes you use specific star rarities, for example, flip a switch to where you and your opponent are using only 2*s or 3*s, 6*s and so on. This would get rid of matches some would deem BS cause I’m sure we’ve all been there matching with someone who has way better decks in terms of power level, this would keep matches more streamlined, BUT if you have the setting off, gambling with the matchmaking, you get rewards quicker.
3: A new boss rush/ gauntlet of all the special bosses the game has had (gauntlet thanos, grandmaster, 6.2 champion, act 7 kangs etc.) have the stats scaled up for veteran players to enjoy cause as fun as these bosses are, no one’s gonna go through an entire quest of boring fights for 1 fun fight.
4: I think a competitive version of incursions would be cool, match up with someone and speedrun the rooms to see who can get the farthest
5: let anyone use the practice map from the CCP beta, would allow anyone to practice with annoying defenders, go all out with champions without a damage cap and to just let us have fun with our favorite characters
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  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    CandyCane2 said:

    Personally, I don’t want my back to have any issues

    What was so wrong with the back issue mode?
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    edited March 22
    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 875 ★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 227 ★
    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    You're under the impression that this would somehow make it more of a balanced fight just because you use 3 stars. You're just gonna get steamrolled by teams of 3 stars
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    I can guarantee if you can't beat anyone in the lowest tier at all then you aren't ready for bgs
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    edited March 23
    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 4,964 ★★★★★
    2 is awesome.

    Same as the Worldwide 4 stars BG Tournament we did here ,but with few fights sadly
    Captain Rogers won
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
    I'm asking because what you consider fair is essentially just you winning more. Fighting msd or bero man is still gonna result in a loss even if you're both using 3 stars. Let's not also forget that higher level accounts will have more access to masteries, max sig for newer champions etc etc
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    Fixing bugs and issues
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
    I'm asking because what you consider fair is essentially just you winning more. Fighting msd or bero man is still gonna result in a loss even if you're both using 3 stars. Let's not also forget that higher level accounts will have more access to masteries, max sig for newer champions etc etc
    Yes, you may still match with someone with newer champions, BUT say the average matchup would be the same rarity, cause not every fight is a Bero man or a swedah. And if you’re behind on masteries or lower sigs, it is not that hard to level up your account or get sigs. And there aren’t that many champions that need a high sig, for max sig it’s only around 3 champs.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
    I'm asking because what you consider fair is essentially just you winning more. Fighting msd or bero man is still gonna result in a loss even if you're both using 3 stars. Let's not also forget that higher level accounts will have more access to masteries, max sig for newer champions etc etc
    Yes, you may still match with someone with newer champions, BUT say the average matchup would be the same rarity, cause not every fight is a Bero man or a swedah. And if you’re behind on masteries or lower sigs, it is not that hard to level up your account or get sigs. And there aren’t that many champions that need a high sig, for max sig it’s only around 3 champs.
    You can't possibly say that only 3 champions need max or high sig and expect anyone to take you seriously
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
    I'm asking because what you consider fair is essentially just you winning more. Fighting msd or bero man is still gonna result in a loss even if you're both using 3 stars. Let's not also forget that higher level accounts will have more access to masteries, max sig for newer champions etc etc
    Yes, you may still match with someone with newer champions, BUT say the average matchup would be the same rarity, cause not every fight is a Bero man or a swedah. And if you’re behind on masteries or lower sigs, it is not that hard to level up your account or get sigs. And there aren’t that many champions that need a high sig, for max sig it’s only around 3 champs.
    You can't possibly say that only 3 champions need max or high sig and expect anyone to take you seriously
    For MAX sig? I can think of Namor, Cap IW, DDHK, mainly cause at max sig it makes their ability at 100%, damage reflection on Namor, parry ability on cap, ignore damage back with DD. Most other champs in the game have a sweet spot at around 170-180
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★★
    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,381 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
    LoL red hulk is a good option as long as they don't use poison or incinerate damage.
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Revan0607 said:

    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
    LoL red hulk is a good option as long as they don't use poison or incinerate damage.
    Again, damage cap
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 2,203 ★★★★★
    I like to see an update back issue that rewards 7 star rank 3s gem but it would have to be very hard to do like The Ordeal or Epoch of pain. They can't be same difficulty as the current one otherwise it would be too easy. BG having the same star level, I'm not down with. What's the use of me upgrading my 7 star champs to never used them expect for quests like Epoch of pain or The ordeal. Most of the other content can be done with 5-6 stars. All my hard work in collecting and upgrading would be down the drain. I said from day one they need to implement a tier system with matching rewards and an open tier for the grand prizes. Boss rush or gauntlet are always welcome. I would love to see how high @willrun4adonut would rank in an incursion run competition. This should be like the BG ranking to see who can complete the most zones in each sector with the maximum required rarity champs.
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    I like to see an update back issue that rewards 7 star rank 3s gem but it would have to be very hard to do like The Ordeal or Epoch of pain. They can't be same difficulty as the current one otherwise it would be too easy. BG having the same star level, I'm not down with. What's the use of me upgrading my 7 star champs to never used them expect for quests like Epoch of pain or The ordeal. Most of the other content can be done with 5-6 stars. All my hard work in collecting and upgrading would be down the drain. I said from day one they need to implement a tier system with matching rewards and an open tier for the grand prizes. Boss rush or gauntlet are always welcome. I would love to see how high @willrun4adonut would rank in an incursion run competition. This should be like the BG ranking to see who can complete the most zones in each sector with the maximum required rarity champs.

    The BG filter I think if implemented, to prevent people from relying on that would be to make progression a lot slower. Kinda like rn in the victory track you earn 2 points a win, if you have filters on its 1 point. You may have an easier time with a more fair matchup (most of the time if you both have similar champions, but again, better than matching with someone at higher star rarities) but you gotta play it more, and you can have it not count for the daily rewards as well
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Revan0607 said:

    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
    LoL red hulk is a good option as long as they don't use poison or incinerate damage.
    Exactly this.
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Revan0607 said:

    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
    LoL red hulk is a good option as long as they don't use poison or incinerate damage.
    Again, damage cap
    There’s a damage cap to everything, including CCP maps.
  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    dr2ws said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Revan0607 said:

    dr2ws said:

    Why do you want a ccp map?

    It’s for content creators to make, you know content! You wouldn’t need to watch their videos if you had access to it.

    Let the content creators do their job, you have Winter Soldier as your punching bag.

    Maybe people are sick of ROL? Maybe they wanna do fights with millions of HP with no damage cap or BS nodes like abyss/ necro?
    LoL red hulk is a good option as long as they don't use poison or incinerate damage.
    Again, damage cap
    There’s a damage cap to everything, including CCP maps.
    Higher than necro or LOL, abyss
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Ant_Warrior said:

    Revan0607 said:

    Squidopus said:

    Revan0607 said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    People always talk about having a lower star rating bgs but it's a terrible idea. Not only does it counteract the point of the game being to progress your account and upgrade your ever growing roster, it also just means that you'll be playing against variants with full decks of the greatest characters in the game and will still have bs matches because they're just better than you. If you can't handle losing in bgs without calling bs on the mode then you're not going to have a better game fighting people that could probably beat you using 2 stars

    @WednesdayLength I’m just saying something like this could work. Cause think of a scenario where your deck at best has all r5 6*s but matchmaking puts you against someone with 7* r3-4, wouldn’t blame the guy for leaving, I’ve matched with cavalier accounts with 6*s with my account that has mostly 7* R3s and a r4, they immediately leave cause if you match up with an opponent with a much more stacked account and a clear advantage, and you have no shot of winning, why stay? So having a sort of playlist, filtering rarities, would make it more skill based. Cause I think it would feel more competitive/ intense matching with the exact same power level as your opponent, and it’s actually down to whoever can play better
    The problem is that the same Valiants with 7* r3s that would kick you down in regular bgs are the ones who have the overwhelming resources to invest in a full squad of lower rarities. Your average beginner would be handicapping themselves ranking up a bunch of 6*s (or whatever rarity) in order to be competitive in this rarity-restricted bgs instead of working on growing their account vertically for every other piece of content in the game. In other words, if you’re ranking up a bunch of lower rarities, you’ve sabotaged your account by wasting resources unless you’re at an endgame level where those resources are chump change.

    Theoretically you could stymie this problem by making the rarity-locked bgs concurrent with regular bgs such that those valiants are fighting each other rather than going down and beating the lower level players, but that would still fracture the player base and just generally be encouraging poor resource management and roster stagnation.
    Then I’d limit the filter up to 3*s or something. My view is mainly to have this option for newer players to experience BGs without getting steamrolled as often
    This.

    I can't enter BG without getting beaten into a corner everytime to the point where I've not been able to ever win a full match, only rounds and this is at the lowest you can get.

    Either throw in bots in early ranks, add more ranks or change stuff up mainly
    Idk, again it’s just an idea to streamline BGs, have a way to make matches more fair/ fun
    What's your definition of fair?
    Again my example, say I turn on the filter and make it to where my deck and my opponents deck will be nothing but 3*s. That makes it to where for the most part, you’re fighting opponents who’s deck is on equal power level, sure there may be times where they may have champions you don’t, but you wouldn’t have to worry about the unfair advantage one may have if say you bought a bunch of 3 stars, but match up with an opponent who has 5 stars, you’d have no shot at winning then. Cause with my deck filled with nothing but 7* R2-3s, and I match with someone with 5-6*s at best, how is that fair?
    I'm asking because what you consider fair is essentially just you winning more. Fighting msd or bero man is still gonna result in a loss even if you're both using 3 stars. Let's not also forget that higher level accounts will have more access to masteries, max sig for newer champions etc etc
    Yes, you may still match with someone with newer champions, BUT say the average matchup would be the same rarity, cause not every fight is a Bero man or a swedah. And if you’re behind on masteries or lower sigs, it is not that hard to level up your account or get sigs. And there aren’t that many champions that need a high sig, for max sig it’s only around 3 champs.
    You can't possibly say that only 3 champions need max or high sig and expect anyone to take you seriously
    For MAX sig? I can think of Namor, Cap IW, DDHK, mainly cause at max sig it makes their ability at 100%, damage reflection on Namor, parry ability on cap, ignore damage back with DD. Most other champs in the game have a sweet spot at around 170-180
    If you ignore red guardian, valkyrie, Prowler, crossbones, spidey 2099, Toad, gentle, gladiator, yknow characters that would actually be used in battlegrounds
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