What skill is needed to fight a node 49 rank 4 bullseye with bad AI and won’t throw special

ButteredPopcorn8008ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 190 ★★
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This is why the game is dying. There should be no brute force or bane In wars. It’s unfair to 99 percent of the player base. If bullseye won’t throw his special and hits into the block 10 times what can you even do. Why create this interaction in war the most stressful game mode you have. It’s not necessary to have these horrific interactions. No other game makes there players go through garbage like this. There no skill that can stop horrific AI and node interactions. Get a darn clue and maybe you’ll stop losing players and money.
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  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,777 ★★★★★
    You say Bullseye is hitting your block,
    Maybe try to learn reparry skill? Where if enemy hits your block 2nd time, it's parry?

    But no, won't do that 😀
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 6,614 ★★★★★

  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,395 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    use okoye on left side ironheart, sunspot, etc on right side

    My battle group uses Okoye for both haha, but yeah - IH was our go-to for the right side before the map update, but we switched to Okoye now for both sides.. been soloing consistently for a long time now
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,395 ★★★★★
    edited March 24
    ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

    This is why the game is dying. There should be no brute force or bane In wars. It’s unfair to 99 percent of the player base. If bullseye won’t throw his special and hits into the block 10 times what can you even do. Why create this interaction in war the most stressful game mode you have. It’s not necessary to have these horrific interactions. No other game makes there players go through garbage like this. There no skill that can stop horrific AI and node interactions. Get a darn clue and maybe you’ll stop losing players and money.

    So, the AI is next level crafty, nasty and and even sometimes appears to be 100% operating will full awareness of its active nodes in high end content .. haha and it's infuriating sometimes.. been there lol.. I've been fighting Enchantress since she came out, but her AI can still make me blurt out that high pitched "WTF???" against her as Boss or in AW in general 😂

    But! That's why I like fighting her 🙃.. also that's what makes the victories so exciting when we win a tough war fight tbf.. without that element of failure being a real or even likely possiblity in a War fight.. the victory wouldn't feel as good when you get it

    And that's why AW is still my favorite mode.. sometimes something goes sideways (sometimes it's the fight you didn't even give a second thought initially).. and you rage haha.. but other times you nail a flawless fight against a tough placement

    Win or lose, it's exciting and makes you feel something?

    Edit: all that being said.. what I do not enjoy is losing a war fight to a game performance issue (lag, input issue, disconnect, etc.) that's definitely not fun and shouldn't happen, especially in a highly competitive game mode designed to be difficult.. give me a hard fight, but let my inputs work correctly so the outcome is in my control
  • AvnishAvnish Member Posts: 485 ★★★
    Yes that node is favorite node for bullseye...I usually use iron heart on this node. She can easily kill him with sp1 spam...also she doesn't get bleed while taking sp1 hits on block..
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 142 ★★
    OP, you have complained about almost every node now. It makes me wonder how members do you have in your battle group or even alliance.
  • Sceptilemaniac2Sceptilemaniac2 Member Posts: 410 ★★★
    Fight him gently.
  • ButteredPopcorn8008ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 190 ★★
    It was an ironheart I was using fully boosted rank 3 and because he hits into my block 10-15 times straight and won’t throw his sp1 I’m forced to lose all my health not at a skill issue but a fake AI made issue. There literally no skill that could save me there
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,754 ★★★★★
    ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

    It was an ironheart I was using fully boosted rank 3 and because he hits into my block 10-15 times straight and won’t throw his sp1 I’m forced to lose all my health not at a skill issue but a fake AI made issue. There literally no skill that could save me there

    Why are you holding block when he has a special to throw? That almost guarantees that he won’t throw his special.

    Also, underrated counter: Duped Medusa. Pop a power start boost, apply armor shatter right off the rip, gain true accuracy and you can just absolutely bully Bullseye with her. Assuming you get a bleed applied fairly quickly, you’ll gain roughly 2.5 bars of power over the course of the shatter, so be sure to pop an sp1 during it if you’re worried about the fight lasting longer than your shatter or not being able to close it out with an sp2.
  • Adri5846Adri5846 Member Posts: 193 ★★
    ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

    It was an ironheart I was using fully boosted rank 3 and because he hits into my block 10-15 times straight and won’t throw his sp1 I’m forced to lose all my health not at a skill issue but a fake AI made issue. There literally no skill that could save me there

    Know how to bait an SP is skill too
  • Cpt_Awesomeo55Cpt_Awesomeo55 Member Posts: 116 ★
    I concur. There are solutions but nothing worse than watching your health tick away while trying to bait a special. Bane and brute force should definitely not be aw war nodes. I also think aegis intercept should be removed while the intercept bug is active.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,146 ★★★★★
    There should be some ban lists on certain nodes, like bullaeye shouldn't be allowed on brute force + stun reflect. Serpent not allowed in aspect of evolution like that. To make this unfair aw map a bit fair.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,754 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    There should be some ban lists on certain nodes, like bullaeye shouldn't be allowed on brute force + stun reflect. Serpent not allowed in aspect of evolution like that. To make this unfair aw map a bit fair.

    These are both extremely winnable fights. They are mini bosses, so they aren’t supposed to be easy, but they are very winnable. I took a Serpent on that node in my last war using Spital and soloed without much issue. Pop an invulnerability boost if you’re concerned about him reaching sp3
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,146 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    There should be some ban lists on certain nodes, like bullaeye shouldn't be allowed on brute force + stun reflect. Serpent not allowed in aspect of evolution like that. To make this unfair aw map a bit fair.

    These are both extremely winnable fights. They are mini bosses, so they aren’t supposed to be easy, but they are very winnable. I took a Serpent on that node in my last war using Spital and soloed without much issue. Pop an invulnerability boost if you’re concerned about him reaching sp3
    I'm fine with serpent in aspect of evol in older map, where the other fights were fair. I still solo or two shot him easily with wiccan/no boosts. But the current overtuned aw map, especially with unfair HS nodes, some of these nodes have to be toned down.

    Also, if boosting is mandatory, or needed most of the times, then it is a unfair fight imo. Ideally, all fights should be doable by a endgame player with "good" Skills and roster, without the need of boosts.

    Also I still think the stunning reflect + brute force (boss islan right side second one) is unfair regardless of the defender, but that's just my personal opinion.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,777 ★★★★★
    edited March 24
    Rayven5220 said:

    PT_99 said:

    You say Bullseye is hitting your block,
    Maybe try to learn reparry skill? Where if enemy hits your block 2nd time, it's parry?

    But no, won't do that 😀

    So confidently wrong in your response.
    Bad thing to do on a stun reflect node, no?
    Smh....
    And is it not a skill to turn off that stun reflection by inflecting appropriate debuffs on Bullseye?
    It's clearly mentioned in the node to how to shut off that stun reflection. 🖐️





    Clearly mentioned.
  • ButteredPopcorn8008ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 190 ★★
    I just want it to be fair. I’m fully boosting and die cuz bullseye AI lets huge brute force tick then you less health to sp1 then you gotta wait to attack him
    Again which starts more brute force. That’s a truly unfair combo. There no skill there if bullseye isn’t throwing a special after 1 dex.
  • ButteredPopcorn8008ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 190 ★★
    PT_99 said:

    Rayven5220 said:

    PT_99 said:

    You say Bullseye is hitting your block,
    Maybe try to learn reparry skill? Where if enemy hits your block 2nd time, it's parry?

    But no, won't do that 😀

    So confidently wrong in your response.
    Bad thing to do on a stun reflect node, no?
    Smh....
    And is it not a skill to turn off that stun reflection by inflecting appropriate debuffs on Bullseye?
    It's clearly mentioned in the node to how to shut off that stun reflection. 🖐️
    We are using incinterate champs to turn off the stun reflect that’s far from the problem on node 49 lol. It’s the brute force with how bullseye auto evade and block damage interact. You shouldn’t die to bad AI in war.
  • ButteredPopcorn8008ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 190 ★★
    If your gonna change the war map why not change every node instead of leaving 3-4 of your hardest nodes from previous map. That’s shady
  • BigTuna_2054BigTuna_2054 Member Posts: 196 ★★★
    I use Iceman for that fight. Keep his cold snap on Bullseye and he can’t evade.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,684 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Rayven5220 said:

    PT_99 said:

    You say Bullseye is hitting your block,
    Maybe try to learn reparry skill? Where if enemy hits your block 2nd time, it's parry?

    But no, won't do that 😀

    So confidently wrong in your response.
    Bad thing to do on a stun reflect node, no?
    Smh....
    And is it not a skill to turn off that stun reflection by inflecting appropriate debuffs on Bullseye?
    It's clearly mentioned in the node to how to shut off that stun reflection. 🖐️





    Clearly mentioned.
    Once you use the said debuff to disable stun reflection, you can straight up parry. Why do you need to learn reparry? Seem clueless about this node/fight.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,146 ★★★★★
    Wiat now the node changed to include incinerate passives as well? Then nega should work fine. Previously iirc it only gets shut down if youninflict a poison or incinerate debuff
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,835 ★★★★★
    Did you spend money on this too?
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 1,735 ★★★★
    With enough revives you can just do whatever 😂, AW is very relaxing if you don’t take it too seriously
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,835 ★★★★★
    I am seriously wondering what tier wars OP plays cause the ammount of self inflicted stress at this point can't be enjoyable or healthy.
    I dunno maybe create some kinda mental health protection where after a season locks you out of war for a season so you can cool off 🤣
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,754 ★★★★★
    edited March 24
    captain_rogers said:

    Wiat now the node changed to include incinerate passives as well? Then nega should work fine. Previously iirc it only gets shut down if youninflict a poison or incinerate debuff

    I think the polka dot power node is still only activated by debuffs, so Negasonic won’t gain any power. She takes out a lot of the threat of the fight, she just won’t have any damage.
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