Is kitty the best bullseye counter

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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,731 ★★★★★

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    I didn't ask anyone to explain how Kitty and prowess work, I've been playing this game since December 2015 lol he's acting like prowess is this very rare unique mechanic (which 80% of the mutant class has) you need to fight Bullseye, it's not.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,889 ★★★★★

    I'm shocked and mildly confused as to how they're still putting him on defense in this "Mutant Mayhem" meta 😂

    Because BG drafts are random, sometimes you may get a counter, other times you don't get one
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Okoye pretty stout as Bullseye counter.

    Dr. Zola

    💯.. Idk about BGs, but my alliance mates destroy him with her in AW.. she embarrasses him 👍
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,764 ★★★★★
    edited March 25
    7* Kitty?
    Then perhaps,
    6* can't keep up with these 7r3 and now 7r4 Bullseyes in BG,
    Runs out of time 🤣
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,764 ★★★★★

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    If you don't know how Kitty vs Bullseye matchup gives Kitty constant 20+ prowess then at least don't spread misinformation.

    One parry to Bullseye is enough to start phasing and every time Bullseye crits, she gets bonus prowess so her sp3 starts to hit more and more hard due to fire debuff increasing her prowess potency repeatedly.
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385
    PT_99 said:

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    If you don't know how Kitty vs Bullseye matchup gives Kitty constant 20+ prowess then at least don't spread misinformation.

    One parry to Bullseye is enough to start phasing and every time Bullseye crits, she gets bonus prowess so her sp3 starts to hit more and more hard due to fire debuff increasing her prowess potency repeatedly.
    Agreed and I have been saying this from the start of the post she only needs to parry not intercept she’s a built in counter for bullseye
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385

    I'm shocked and mildly confused as to how they're still putting him on defense in this "Mutant Mayhem" meta 😂

    Agreed all my mutants can take him down easily
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    I didn't ask anyone to explain how Kitty and prowess work, I've been playing this game since December 2015 lol he's acting like prowess is this very rare unique mechanic (which 80% of the mutant class has) you need to fight Bullseye, it's not.
    Nobody said it was rare it’s essential for her kit that’s why I mentioned I was trying to say while she is phased her prowess just keeps on building and she takes no damage from bullseyes hits she can get to 20 prowess in 10 seconds in bags and then you can just pop the sp2 or for longer fights way to sp3 and it’s not that bad
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 6,595 ★★★★★
    Here comes a flying stun immunity......
    Boom
  • HalleyHalley Member Posts: 587 ★★★
    Negasonic Teenage Warhead is the ultimate counter against Bulleyes
    (if node is not Stun immune)
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,124 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    She’s easily the best in my opinion. Sinister might be faster in BGs and such but when it comes to safety in war kitty is unmatched. You can quite literally get to three prowess and just let him hit you to three bars of power and then it’s game over. After that keep throwing the SP3s and let him hit you over and over again. I always use her for our wars in tier one and she’s been taking down R4 bullseye bosses with 0hp lost. The only nodes she can’t fight him on are the safeguard ones and polka dot power. Every other node on the map she can easily cheese him. You really can’t compete with that





    Okoye is great too, she can take bullseye on most nodes outside hazard shift. She's especially great for the polka dot power, safeguard, and boss nodes. I've taken down r3 bullseyes in those nodes in 60s flat with my r4 okoye.
    Disagree Guy disagrees. But let him keep trying to take Bullseye with whoever—Okoye still trashes him.

    Dr. Zola
    How do you use okoye against bullaeye? Especially if the ensare falls of and bullseye has a bar of power, if I dex then bullseye will likely throw sp1 right? How to handle this situation?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,731 ★★★★★

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    I didn't ask anyone to explain how Kitty and prowess work, I've been playing this game since December 2015 lol he's acting like prowess is this very rare unique mechanic (which 80% of the mutant class has) you need to fight Bullseye, it's not.
    Nobody said it was rare it’s essential for her kit that’s why I mentioned I was trying to say while she is phased her prowess just keeps on building and she takes no damage from bullseyes hits she can get to 20 prowess in 10 seconds in bags and then you can just pop the sp2 or for longer fights way to sp3 and it’s not that bad
    Yes, but it's still nowhere near as fast or safe as Sinister except for stun immune nodes.
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 371 ★★★★
    edited March 25
    Sinister makes bullseye a cakewalk. Regens every hit, doesn’t have to worry about much of anything. However Okoye is very good as well

    DrZola said:

    She’s easily the best in my opinion. Sinister might be faster in BGs and such but when it comes to safety in war kitty is unmatched. You can quite literally get to three prowess and just let him hit you to three bars of power and then it’s game over. After that keep throwing the SP3s and let him hit you over and over again. I always use her for our wars in tier one and she’s been taking down R4 bullseye bosses with 0hp lost. The only nodes she can’t fight him on are the safeguard ones and polka dot power. Every other node on the map she can easily cheese him. You really can’t compete with that





    Okoye is great too, she can take bullseye on most nodes outside hazard shift. She's especially great for the polka dot power, safeguard, and boss nodes. I've taken down r3 bullseyes in those nodes in 60s flat with my r4 okoye.
    Disagree Guy disagrees. But let him keep trying to take Bullseye with whoever—Okoye still trashes him.

    Dr. Zola
    How do you use okoye against bullaeye? Especially if the ensare falls of and bullseye has a bar of power, if I dex then bullseye will likely throw sp1 right? How to handle this situation?
    It’s a lengthy ensnare, and all you need to do is Dex to trigger it. (Which you already know). Dex his hit then block sp1. Or dex the first hit of the sp1 then block the rest. Okoye handles him very well. Not as good as sinister, but still very well
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385

    Sinister is the safest bullseye countrr

    that is not true its for sure kitty all u have to do is phase
    Can she regen if you get hit? Can she finish faster? The answer to both is no lol
    its not that hard to not get hit. Who has the easier playstyle? Whose the easier counter is he a more a reliable counter? the answer to both is no lol
    I literally just explained to you why Sinister is more reliable lol you screw up you can heal back, and he's way faster than her. As for your other point, what's easier parry and heavy or intercepting? You can't possibly be this dense mate.
    I rlly don't get how you think its hard to play kitty she is also more sustainable and better because of prowess and you can mess up with sinister I don't understand why your being dense just cause you think sinister is easier to play doesn't mean that for everyone
    Now you're just twisting my words to create a strawman that's not what I said, I said parry heavy is easier than intercepting and that's not a matter of opinion it's a fact.
    What does prowess have to do with literally anything here it's not like you need prowess to counter Bullseye.
    Parrying is factually easier than intercepting, it's literally the first thing you learn when you start playing the game lmao.
    The 3 prowess is what she needs to go invisible, but more prowess = more damage so you’re obviously gonna want to intercept to get her full potential.
    I didn't ask anyone to explain how Kitty and prowess work, I've been playing this game since December 2015 lol he's acting like prowess is this very rare unique mechanic (which 80% of the mutant class has) you need to fight Bullseye, it's not.
    Nobody said it was rare it’s essential for her kit that’s why I mentioned I was trying to say while she is phased her prowess just keeps on building and she takes no damage from bullseyes hits she can get to 20 prowess in 10 seconds in bags and then you can just pop the sp2 or for longer fights way to sp3 and it’s not that bad
    Yes, but it's still nowhere near as fast or safe as Sinister except for stun immune nodes.
    Also for nodes where defender can be immune to the effects sinister won’t be good either and in aw atleast for my map the boss always is stunn immune and 9 out of 10 times it’s bullseye and kitty just obliterates
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,124 ★★★★★

    Sinister makes bullseye a cakewalk. Regens every hit, doesn’t have to worry about much of anything. However Okoye is very good as well

    DrZola said:

    She’s easily the best in my opinion. Sinister might be faster in BGs and such but when it comes to safety in war kitty is unmatched. You can quite literally get to three prowess and just let him hit you to three bars of power and then it’s game over. After that keep throwing the SP3s and let him hit you over and over again. I always use her for our wars in tier one and she’s been taking down R4 bullseye bosses with 0hp lost. The only nodes she can’t fight him on are the safeguard ones and polka dot power. Every other node on the map she can easily cheese him. You really can’t compete with that





    Okoye is great too, she can take bullseye on most nodes outside hazard shift. She's especially great for the polka dot power, safeguard, and boss nodes. I've taken down r3 bullseyes in those nodes in 60s flat with my r4 okoye.
    Disagree Guy disagrees. But let him keep trying to take Bullseye with whoever—Okoye still trashes him.

    Dr. Zola
    How do you use okoye against bullaeye? Especially if the ensare falls of and bullseye has a bar of power, if I dex then bullseye will likely throw sp1 right? How to handle this situation?
    It’s a lengthy ensnare, and all you need to do is Dex to trigger it. (Which you already know). Dex his hit then block sp1. Or dex the first hit of the sp1 then block the rest. Okoye handles him very well. Not as good as sinister, but still very well
    Nah that's not what I meant. I want to push bullseye to sp2, sincehis sp1 takes a lot of your health. If my ensare falls off when bully has 1 bar of power, and If I dex his medium or light he is likely to throw a sp1, which I don't want. I wanna know is there any strategy to avoid this.

    My fav bully counter is starky. He bullies bullseyes.
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385

    Sinister makes bullseye a cakewalk. Regens every hit, doesn’t have to worry about much of anything. However Okoye is very good as well

    DrZola said:

    She’s easily the best in my opinion. Sinister might be faster in BGs and such but when it comes to safety in war kitty is unmatched. You can quite literally get to three prowess and just let him hit you to three bars of power and then it’s game over. After that keep throwing the SP3s and let him hit you over and over again. I always use her for our wars in tier one and she’s been taking down R4 bullseye bosses with 0hp lost. The only nodes she can’t fight him on are the safeguard ones and polka dot power. Every other node on the map she can easily cheese him. You really can’t compete with that





    Okoye is great too, she can take bullseye on most nodes outside hazard shift. She's especially great for the polka dot power, safeguard, and boss nodes. I've taken down r3 bullseyes in those nodes in 60s flat with my r4 okoye.
    Disagree Guy disagrees. But let him keep trying to take Bullseye with whoever—Okoye still trashes him.

    Dr. Zola
    How do you use okoye against bullaeye? Especially if the ensare falls of and bullseye has a bar of power, if I dex then bullseye will likely throw sp1 right? How to handle this situation?
    It’s a lengthy ensnare, and all you need to do is Dex to trigger it. (Which you already know). Dex his hit then block sp1. Or dex the first hit of the sp1 then block the rest. Okoye handles him very well. Not as good as sinister, but still very well
    Nah that's not what I meant. I want to push bullseye to sp2, sincehis sp1 takes a lot of your health. If my ensare falls off when bully has 1 bar of power, and If I dex his medium or light he is likely to throw a sp1, which I don't want. I wanna know is there any strategy to avoid this.

    My fav bully counter is starky. He bullies bullseyes.
    honestly I agree Starky is an underrated counter I love using him
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,527 ★★★★★
    edited March 25

    DrZola said:

    She’s easily the best in my opinion. Sinister might be faster in BGs and such but when it comes to safety in war kitty is unmatched. You can quite literally get to three prowess and just let him hit you to three bars of power and then it’s game over. After that keep throwing the SP3s and let him hit you over and over again. I always use her for our wars in tier one and she’s been taking down R4 bullseye bosses with 0hp lost. The only nodes she can’t fight him on are the safeguard ones and polka dot power. Every other node on the map she can easily cheese him. You really can’t compete with that





    Okoye is great too, she can take bullseye on most nodes outside hazard shift. She's especially great for the polka dot power, safeguard, and boss nodes. I've taken down r3 bullseyes in those nodes in 60s flat with my r4 okoye.
    Disagree Guy disagrees. But let him keep trying to take Bullseye with whoever—Okoye still trashes him.

    Dr. Zola
    How do you use okoye against bullaeye? Especially if the ensare falls of and bullseye has a bar of power, if I dex then bullseye will likely throw sp1 right? How to handle this situation?
    I’ve never had an issue with the Ensnare falling off. It’s pretty easy to refresh and holds for 18 seconds if you don’t.

    Otherwise, you build him to Sp2 just like you would any other champ—baiting heavy is the most obvious or you can parry and hit him.

    Dr. Zola
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 4,918 ★★★★★
    Mr. Sinister, and im trying Dust too
  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 1,032 ★★★
    most of the times sinister is straight up best counter, he is just built for destroying bullseye. In some special cases (node, debuff immune?, decreased debuff duration (like taskmaster passive)) i think kitty might shine more. But its relatively rare
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385
    Jack2634 said:

    most of the times sinister is straight up best counter, he is just built for destroying bullseye. In some special cases (node, debuff immune?, decreased debuff duration (like taskmaster passive)) i think kitty might shine more. But its relatively rare

    Also stun immune or shruggers or cleanse
  • HalleyHalley Member Posts: 587 ★★★
    edited March 26
    It's strange that someone disagree with me that Negasonic Teen Warhead is the best counter against Bulleyes

    You'll never mind his evades anymore, just in case that node isn't stun immune
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 385
    Halley said:

    It's strange that someone disagree with me that Negasonic Teen Warhead is the best counter against Bulleyes

    You'll never mind his evades anymore, just in case that node isn't stun immune

    so does kitty with her phase so can bwdo with counter evades so can kate
  • cscale0725_gmailcscale0725_gmail Member Posts: 142
    Kitty is a very good Bullseye counter but I think Mr Sinister is the best
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 4,918 ★★★★★
    Mr. Sinister regenerates a lot
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