Don’t really need those nexuses, I usually have a bad luck with them. But I agree that it’s a long overdue for AG in this type of content. Now we have r4 200 champs, but cannot get some AG shards? That’s weird… Every whaling parade you can expect FULL AG, not even shards. I had big expectations, I had 8k AG shards and thought I would receive not even full AG, but some shards. Very disappointed.
Seriously I am still annoyed by the 2 R2 Gems, change to a R3 one NOW!!! 🤣
I caught myself on a thought during the stream, that it is probably a mistake and that should be 2 r3 gems. But now I realize that it’s still r2 and little bit upset about it😅
1-2 gem for exploration is so lackluster. No AG shards, only 30 sig stones. Reward is just 1 R4 champion and that's it. I don't know who thinks relics are endgame rewards. At least give us 2000 AG shards. 9.1 rewards were much better IMO.
Seriously I am still annoyed by the 2 R2 Gems, change to a R3 one NOW!!! 🤣
I caught myself on a thought during the stream, that it is probably a mistake and that should be 2 r3 gems. But now I realize that it’s still r2 and little bit upset about it😅
2 r3s? You are crazy ...I just want 1 r3 instead of 2 r2s..
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
I’m confused how and why people believe 9.2 will be significantly easier than ordeal; yes I believe it will be easier than epoch.
The ordeal wasn’t long (only 21 fights), didn’t have overly large health pools (1.5-2.0m), and didn’t have overly complicated nodes. Unless they drastically changed 9.2 from the beta (we know it will be 126 fights, each path defender had ~1-1.5m health bosses around 1.5-2.0m, and some paths with complex node interactions). I still don’t think 9.2 will be overly difficult but it will definitely be more of a slog and time investment compared to ordeal.
Completely agree. The 1>2 gem particularly seems very out of place. If that was a 2>3 i think that would make a lot more sense. No one cares about a 1>2. Also, ags used to be a major part of story quest rewards and they kind have gotten away with that. I would have loved to see a whole ag crystal or enough shards for one (I don’t think that would have broken the game). The base pool is so big and we’re acquiring so many champions by other means (ie. omega days, heart of fire, banquet, platinum passes, saga, deathless, etc.) that it’s really hard to awaken champions. Personally, i feel like 7 stars have been out for quite a while, throw us some more ags and sig stones, but that’s just me. Also, the lack of nexus’ or anything in the rewards isn’t helping the cause.
Seriously I am still annoyed by the 2 R2 Gems, change to a R3 one NOW!!! 🤣
I caught myself on a thought during the stream, that it is probably a mistake and that should be 2 r3 gems. But now I realize that it’s still r2 and little bit upset about it😅
2 r3s? You are crazy ...I just want 1 r3 instead of 2 r2s..
I didn’t say that I want it to be. As a saw the picture, I thought it would be r3 gems. But it’s just r2. So, they gave us 1 r4 with that release, 2 r2 and almost no r3, don’t you think that’s strange?
Completely agree. The 1>2 gem particularly seems very out of place. If that was a 2>3 i think that would make a lot more sense. No one cares about a 1>2. Also, ags used to be a major part of story quest rewards and they kind have gotten away with that. I would have loved to see a whole ag crystal or enough shards for one (I don’t think that would have broken the game). The base pool is so big and we’re acquiring so many champions by other means (ie. omega days, heart of fire, banquet, platinum passes, saga, deathless, etc.) that it’s really hard to awaken champions. Personally, i feel like 7 stars have been out for quite a while, throw us some more ags and sig stones, but that’s just me. Also, the lack of nexus’ or anything in the rewards isn’t helping the cause.
So you want Ordeal/Epoch level rewards (AGs, r3 gems and nexus crystals) for one chapter (not even a full Act) of story content which is not even close to being as hard as Everest content? I really don't get some of these complaints lol that would absolutely damage the game's economy if they started handing out rewards like that, it would force them to make Everest rewards even more crazy when they're perfectly fine as they are currently.
3 months ago people were complaining that a few whales got the first R4s for spending $100k+ on banquet. Now people are complaining that the free R4 they're going to get from a story quest doesn't also come with a free R3.
3 months ago people were complaining that a few whales got the first R4s for spending $100k+ on banquet. Now people are complaining that the free R4 they're going to get from a story quest doesn't also come with a free R3.
To some extent complaints are valid. Nobody asked or expected another r4 from 9.2. Giving a couple of r3’s with a few thousand AG shards plus maybe 1 t7b would have gone down way better with people than another r4 which is accelerating vertical progress.
3 months ago people were complaining that a few whales got the first R4s for spending $100k+ on banquet. Now people are complaining that the free R4 they're going to get from a story quest doesn't also come with a free R3.
To some extent complaints are valid. Nobody asked or expected another r4 from 9.2. Giving a couple of r3’s with a few thousand AG shards plus maybe 1 t7b would have gone down way better with people than another r4 which is accelerating vertical progress.
I agree and would've preferred your scenario; people at this point should earn their R4s by doing everest content, not story. But this seems to be in line with Kabam's overall approach of not wanting the highest rewards being exclusive to a small group of players. It seems like that approach is what is reversing the post-covid player retention decline.
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
First of all i never said a r5 gem i said a r5 they could do it by catalysts instead of a gem also the acension was also implemented at the same time as the 7* so each rank is a 30% increase a r5 ascended 6* is the equivalent of just under a r3 7* so in theory they would just need to boost about 1.5 lvls or so since 7* are introducing r6 and ot would be the equivolent of just under a r3 8* it saves them about a yr 25 r5 26 r6 27 acension then 28 8* that would still be the same 5 yr gap between 6* and 7*
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
First of all i never said a r5 gem i said a r5 they could do it by catalysts instead of a gem also the acension was also implemented at the same time as the 7* so each rank is a 30% increase a r5 ascended 6* is the equivalent of just under a r3 7* so in theory they would just need to boost about 1.5 lvls or so since 7* are introducing r6 and ot would be the equivolent of just under a r3 8* it saves them about a yr 25 r5 26 r6 27 acension then 28 8* that would still be the same 5 yr gap between 6* and 7*
Or maybe they wanted an extra year gap before introducing a new rarity which is likely the case because otherwise they would've given us more stuff for 9.2, they would've sped up the process and that's clearly not the case so there's nothing else to argue here.
An extra rank changes nothing for ascensions, 7* ascensions will only come out when 8* come out because that's when they will be required.
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
First of all i never said a r5 gem i said a r5 they could do it by catalysts instead of a gem also the acension was also implemented at the same time as the 7* so each rank is a 30% increase a r5 ascended 6* is the equivalent of just under a r3 7* so in theory they would just need to boost about 1.5 lvls or so since 7* are introducing r6 and ot would be the equivolent of just under a r3 8* it saves them about a yr 25 r5 26 r6 27 acension then 28 8* that would still be the same 5 yr gap between 6* and 7*
Or maybe they wanted an extra year gap before introducing a new rarity which is likely the case because otherwise they would've given us more stuff for 9.2, they would've sped up the process and that's clearly not the case so there's nothing else to argue here.
An extra rank changes nothing for ascensions, 7* ascensions will only come out when 8* come out because that's when they will be required.
So going from 7 star introduction to r4 7* in a yr and a half isnt sped up rank progression doing the way i gave gives them that gap yr because the 7* will still be more relevant with the release of 8* cause the 7* would still be more powerful than the 8* it would make it to where ppl wouldnt have to start focusing on 8*s right away they could start their 8* acquisitions and just rank up the ones they want they could even lower the raised power lvl to just under a r2 8* and do a 45% increase or still do the 75% increase to keep acsension to the just under a r3 equivalent of the next star lvl that way ppl arent forced to think man now i have to start the build up all over again even though its what is happening but it would take that sting away.
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
First of all i never said a r5 gem i said a r5 they could do it by catalysts instead of a gem also the acension was also implemented at the same time as the 7* so each rank is a 30% increase a r5 ascended 6* is the equivalent of just under a r3 7* so in theory they would just need to boost about 1.5 lvls or so since 7* are introducing r6 and ot would be the equivolent of just under a r3 8* it saves them about a yr 25 r5 26 r6 27 acension then 28 8* that would still be the same 5 yr gap between 6* and 7*
Or maybe they wanted an extra year gap before introducing a new rarity which is likely the case because otherwise they would've given us more stuff for 9.2, they would've sped up the process and that's clearly not the case so there's nothing else to argue here.
An extra rank changes nothing for ascensions, 7* ascensions will only come out when 8* come out because that's when they will be required.
So going from 7 star introduction to r4 7* in a yr and a half isnt sped up rank progression doing the way i gave gives them that gap yr because the 7* will still be more relevant with the release of 8* cause the 7* would still be more powerful than the 8* it would make it to where ppl wouldnt have to start focusing on 8*s right away they could start their 8* acquisitions and just rank up the ones they want they could even lower the raised power lvl to just under a r2 8* and do a 45% increase or still do the 75% increase to keep acsension to the just under a r3 equivalent of the next star lvl that way ppl arent forced to think man now i have to start the build up all over again even though its what is happening but it would take that sting away.
It's actually going to be two years in three weeks so I'd just round it up to two years, regardless we're both just speculating here and we're not going to find common ground so agree to disagree, I don't think we'll get r5 until next year.
The 2 r1-r2 gems don't make any sense, someone pointed that out on my alliance discord. It should be an 1 r2-r3 gem considering they are giving r4 mats.
You have to think about this though, if they started giving r3 gems in 9.2 then how could they top off 9.3, 9.4 and the whole Act 9 exploration rewards without introducing r5s? I feel like if they gave us r3s it would be a little too rushed but maybe that's just me.
Well, by the time 9.4 actually drops (should be this time next year), the first r5s makes sense outside of banquet(maybe).
Doubt it, maybe r4 generic gems but an r5 wouldn't make sense other than p2w events.
I could see a possible r5 being available for act 9 exploration we will get r5s for banquet 9.4 will be out this time next yr r4s just got released with banquet meets the time frame
This year's Banquet? I highly doubt it. Next year's Banquet? Sure, but by the time Banquet 2026 comes we will already be on Act 10, and Act 9 will be done. I don't think we will see r5s in Act 9, just r4s and awakening gems.
The last 2 yrs the next rank progression was introduced end of the yr 2023 with necro and last yr with banquet if it continues r5s will be introduced the end of this yr so yes it is a fesible possibility that r5s could come out with 9.4 exploration
If they had dropped an r3 in 9.2 sure but they didn't, it wouldn't make sense to go from no r3 gems in 9.2 to r5s in 9.4 or Act 9 exploration unless 9.2 already had r3 gems in it. If they did this however they'd be going way too fast, if they gave us r5s by the end of this year that would mean they'd have to begin introducing 8* by 2027. Let's do a quick recap of the 6* and 7* timeline just to put things into perspective: 6* came out January 2018, 7* came out five years later on May 2023. It hasn't even been two years since 7* were released and you're expecting them to be putting out r5s before we even reach year three? That makes zero sense, the pacing would be completely off and as I mentioned earlier they'd be forced to either introduce 8* in 2027 or hit the pause button on progression for a whole year.
What does r3 gems have to do at all with 9.2 they are giving us a r4 r3 has nothing to do with if they could introduce r5s at the end of the yr and also you are wrong about having to introduce 8 stars in 2027 because 2027 could be used to do ascension
I'm saying it makes no sense to jump to r5 gems or materials when we don't even have r3 gems or r4 gems in 9.1 or 9.2, how does that make sense to you? Have you seen how rewards change throughout chapters in previous Acts? Go take a quick look.
Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
First of all i never said a r5 gem i said a r5 they could do it by catalysts instead of a gem also the acension was also implemented at the same time as the 7* so each rank is a 30% increase a r5 ascended 6* is the equivalent of just under a r3 7* so in theory they would just need to boost about 1.5 lvls or so since 7* are introducing r6 and ot would be the equivolent of just under a r3 8* it saves them about a yr 25 r5 26 r6 27 acension then 28 8* that would still be the same 5 yr gap between 6* and 7*
Or maybe they wanted an extra year gap before introducing a new rarity which is likely the case because otherwise they would've given us more stuff for 9.2, they would've sped up the process and that's clearly not the case so there's nothing else to argue here.
An extra rank changes nothing for ascensions, 7* ascensions will only come out when 8* come out because that's when they will be required.
So going from 7 star introduction to r4 7* in a yr and a half isnt sped up rank progression doing the way i gave gives them that gap yr because the 7* will still be more relevant with the release of 8* cause the 7* would still be more powerful than the 8* it would make it to where ppl wouldnt have to start focusing on 8*s right away they could start their 8* acquisitions and just rank up the ones they want they could even lower the raised power lvl to just under a r2 8* and do a 45% increase or still do the 75% increase to keep acsension to the just under a r3 equivalent of the next star lvl that way ppl arent forced to think man now i have to start the build up all over again even though its what is happening but it would take that sting away.
It's actually going to be two years in three weeks so I'd just round it up to two years, regardless we're both just speculating here and we're not going to find common ground so agree to disagree, I don't think we'll get r5 until next year.
Techically r4s were introduced with the banquet rewards in Jan so 1 yr 7 months but yeah i can agree to disagree
The rewards seem really good to me. The only thing it’s really missing is 7* awakening gem shards. But we still have 9.3 completion and exploration rewards, 9.4 completion and exploration rewards and then the overall act completion and exploration rewards to come. Kabam does need somewhere to go with this.
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Explain how exactly I'm wrong, I literally just explained to you the whole timeline and why r5s before we even reach year three makes no sense. After r5 we literally would only have one more rank left and then it's 8*, they would have to bring 8* by the end of 2027 if they started rolling out r5s this year because 2026 would bring us r6s and by the time Banquet 2027 hits most people would already have decks full of r5 and r6s.
As for ascensions, you are aware 6* ascensions came out almost at the same time as 7* right? Not before 7*, and the reason for this is ascension is meant to make the transfer from the lower rarity to the higher one without the higher rarity feeling like it completely overpowers the lower one making it completely irrelevant. In other words, we can't get 7* ascensions until 8* roll out because that is the main purpose of ascensions, to make the lower rarity still relevant when a higher one is released, so yes you're still wrong.
The ordeal wasn’t long (only 21 fights), didn’t have overly large health pools (1.5-2.0m), and didn’t have overly complicated nodes. Unless they drastically changed 9.2 from the beta (we know it will be 126 fights, each path defender had ~1-1.5m health bosses around 1.5-2.0m, and some paths with complex node interactions). I still don’t think 9.2 will be overly difficult but it will definitely be more of a slog and time investment compared to ordeal.
Now people are complaining that the free R4 they're going to get from a story quest doesn't also come with a free R3.
But this seems to be in line with Kabam's overall approach of not wanting the highest rewards being exclusive to a small group of players. It seems like that approach is what is reversing the post-covid player retention decline.
An extra rank changes nothing for ascensions, 7* ascensions will only come out when 8* come out because that's when they will be required.
So imo next title would be either easy af or will make most players cry for the acquisition
5k Ag shards and 1 r3 gem inplace of 2 r2s.
I am so glad this company takes feedback from the community
-Kabam.