So our rewards will be tailored to our prestige? Is that right?

SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 533 ★★★
I heard Kabam Mike on the stream talking about the content being more difficult, along with the rewards being better based on your account.

Was this based on your champion prestige? If so - does that mean that realistically ALL rank up materials for R4, along with all Sig stones need to be given to top prestige options from this point onwards in order to maximise the rewards for your account, and indeed the return on the time you put into the game?

Furthermore - does this mean that we can have a whole slew of new bugs where any error in calculating defender difficulty could cause low level players having far too difficult matchups, endgame players having far too easy fights etc etc?

At the moment with the difficulties and rewards being fixed, it means that the scope for bugs is significantly lower, and it makes me concerned about how this will play out when it launches.

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  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,773 ★★★★
    Maybe it's so that a fresh valiant with 3 r3s don't get the same rewards as an older valiant with 30r3s.


    Maybe it has prestige slabs so we just have to cross a threshold, not just get the max possible prestige.
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,669 ★★★★★
    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,082 ★★★★★
    It could go sideways, but I also think it could potentially be a good thing. When you only have a narrow window of which champions count, you kind of have to fill those spots with very specific champions and pump all of your resources into them to stay competitive. If you widen that to your top 30 champions, those top champions don't matter quite as much and it becomes much less competitive, which in turn should still allow you to rank up and sig up whoever you want without it affecting your EQ rewards in any tangible way. I have a hard time seeing Kabam making the top EQ rewards super competitive in such a way that people with roughly the same number of, say, r3 7* champions get cut off from the top rewards just because they'd ranked up the "wrong" champions to get there.

    My guess (but this is just a guess, and not even a well-informed one) is that it'll be more similar to how progression tiers work than to how AQ works; more about "Have X many champions at this or that rank" and less about "Have these very specific champions ranked up."

    In the end, there is absolutely no need to make the monthly EQ a competitive event.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Yeah here u go on the recap post

    EQ/SQ Updates

    In May 2025 there will be a Test of a Valiant EQ. Eventually, EQ will be updated to dynamically scale difficulty and rewards based on Progression Level and Top 30 champion Prestige (think AQ scaling). Also, new SQ formats are in the works.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 6,849 ★★★★★

    Maybe it's so that a fresh valiant with 3 r3s don't get the same rewards as an older valiant with 30r3s.


    Maybe it has prestige slabs so we just have to cross a threshold, not just get the max possible prestige.

    I'm thinking the same. There are going to be thresholds to reach.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,689 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    edited April 5
    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    On stream they say top 30 prestige could mean the summoners top 30 champs then


  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,736 ★★★★★
    edited April 5
    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be a relatively individual experience for the user based on their roster (hopefully in tiers and not an infinite scale where everyone gets different rewards), not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,689 ★★★★★
    edited April 5
    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    On stream they say top 30 prestige could mean the summoners top 30 champs then


    If you listened to Mike he said what it what’s I go back and listening around 21:08 that’s where they talk of it there said entire roster
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be an individual experience for the user based on their roster, not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
    Yeah without much info of x prestige gets this next tier prestige gets this but atm its hard to say as this could change of course since atm prestige is just calculated by top 5
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    On stream they say top 30 prestige could mean the summoners top 30 champs then


    If you listened to Mike he said what it what’s I go back and listening
    Ok yeah so it is top 30 actual champs interesting still we need to make a way in game to know top prestige champs since atm we use unoffical sorces like auntmai was to help us
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,689 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    On stream they say top 30 prestige could mean the summoners top 30 champs then


    If you listened to Mike he said what it what’s I go back and listening
    Ok yeah so it is top 30 actual champs interesting still we need to make a way in game to know top prestige champs since atm we use unoffical sorces like auntmai was to help us
    Yes it be crazy to know top 30 tho
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    On stream they say top 30 prestige could mean the summoners top 30 champs then


    If you listened to Mike he said what it what’s I go back and listening
    Ok yeah so it is top 30 actual champs interesting still we need to make a way in game to know top prestige champs since atm we use unoffical sorces like auntmai was to help us
    Yes it be crazy to know top 30 tho
    Yeah hopefully they let us know our top 30 prestige and top 5 just so when we know if increases or not
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,773 ★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be a relatively individual experience for the user based on their roster (hopefully in tiers and not an infinite scale where everyone gets different rewards), not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
    They did say it word for word on stream. That it's no t just the normal 5 Champ prestige, but top 30 champ prestige
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,732 ★★★★★
    Can’t wait for new bugs when this is released. Hey there was an error calculating my prestige and now all defenders have 2.5 mil health and 50k attack.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Can’t wait for new bugs when this is released. Hey there was an error calculating my prestige and now all defenders have 2.5 mil health and 50k attack.

    Tbh 2.5m health isnt even that bad haha
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,732 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Can’t wait for new bugs when this is released. Hey there was an error calculating my prestige and now all defenders have 2.5 mil health and 50k attack.

    Tbh 2.5m health isnt even that bad haha
    We are talking about recurring monthly content. Not one time story or Everest content.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Bendy said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Can’t wait for new bugs when this is released. Hey there was an error calculating my prestige and now all defenders have 2.5 mil health and 50k attack.

    Tbh 2.5m health isnt even that bad haha
    We are talking about recurring monthly content. Not one time story or Everest content.
    And u be getting damage boosts still hopefully so healths really isnt like everests at all
  • Cuber2906Cuber2906 Member Posts: 237
    they could make tiers based on total combined prestige like lets say i have my top 30 champs with 25k average prestige, then tht adds up to 750k total prestige, so the can make like tiers of lets say 200k each.

    so there can be tiers of lets say 0-200k, 200k to 400k, then so on , as a low valiant with like less than 5 r3s will have not many champs above 20k prestige and can reach like 500k+ prestige for top 30, whereas a endgame valiant with like 30+ r3s and 2+ r4s have their minimum top 30 prestige over 30k, tht means they have a top 30 combined prestige of 1 million plus. so

    and the reward brackets can give necessary rewards, as the lower brackets need more of lets say r2 and r3 materials and less of r4, while the highest tiers can have more r3 and r4 focused materials.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,015 ★★★★★

    I heard Kabam Mike on the stream talking about the content being more difficult, along with the rewards being better based on your account.

    Was this based on your champion prestige? If so - does that mean that realistically ALL rank up materials for R4, along with all Sig stones need to be given to top prestige options from this point onwards in order to maximise the rewards for your account, and indeed the return on the time you put into the game?

    Furthermore - does this mean that we can have a whole slew of new bugs where any error in calculating defender difficulty could cause low level players having far too difficult matchups, endgame players having far too easy fights etc etc?

    At the moment with the difficulties and rewards being fixed, it means that the scope for bugs is significantly lower, and it makes me concerned about how this will play out when it launches.

    Difficulty and rewards scale with your top 30 champs' prestige for your roster. I'm sure it's tiered somehow but we'll need more information first. And it's only for MEQ.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,736 ★★★★★
    edited April 5

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be a relatively individual experience for the user based on their roster (hopefully in tiers and not an infinite scale where everyone gets different rewards), not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
    They did say it word for word on stream. That it's no t just the normal 5 Champ prestige, but top 30 champ prestige
    I must've missed it while trying to type everything in as a promo code.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,015 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be a relatively individual experience for the user based on their roster (hopefully in tiers and not an infinite scale where everyone gets different rewards), not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
    Mike said top 30 champs in your roster on stream.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    Maybe it works like Incursions tiers?

    Anyways I hope it'll be hard and very rewarding

    I think its like aq however only affects top 30 prestige players will get more than anyone else
    There means top 30 champion that’s how i understood it because it wouldn’t make sense it be top 30 in the world
    I'm waiting for them to confirm it word for word before I land in a camp, but I agree. It should be a relatively individual experience for the user based on their roster (hopefully in tiers and not an infinite scale where everyone gets different rewards), not an experience reserved for the top 30 players in the game. Worst thing they could do with EQ improvement is make it a pure pay-to-win game mode.
    They did say it word for word on stream. That it's no t just the normal 5 Champ prestige, but top 30 champ prestige
    I must've missed it while trying to type every word they said as a promo code.
    Yeah i wasnt listening when they said it was top 30 champs i just say top 30 and was like damn prestige is finally gonna matter
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