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  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 12,033 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    The youtubers calling for a boycott are the same people who whale out in order to get an advantage over the rest of the player pool to feed their ego and identity.
    So I was never following their example for either spending or not spending.
    I just make my own decisions based on what the deals are, how I'm feeling financially, and how I'm feeling about the game overall on a personal level.
    I know, personal decisionmaking and accountability=scary concepts for a lot of people.

    You mean Vega who i certainly will know $pend on heart of fire event lol.


    To many people will open there wallets for 7* nick fury
    If it's a gacha box NF might be the worse to pull unless you are willing to go all the way...
    Why would he be the worse.
    Undup NF, might as well pull Gwenpool...
    yes but again he still is strong dos need the dup

  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,137 ★★★★★
    edited April 8
    ^ because there are still massive unaddressed and unresolved issues hurting the game platform-wide which many or most of the people talked about as being a huge underlying issue - the AI junk that we've been forced to suffer through for over half a year now.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,812 ★★★★★
    edited April 8

    The youtubers calling for a boycott are the same people who whale out in order to get an advantage over the rest of the player pool to feed their ego and identity.
    So I was never following their example for either spending or not spending.
    I just make my own decisions based on what the deals are, how I'm feeling financially, and how I'm feeling about the game overall on a personal level.
    I know, personal decisionmaking and accountability=scary concepts for a lot of people.

    Nothing has changed for most players since the "call for boycott" button was pressed. The 1% got their "win", while the rest of us deal with the same problems in the game that weren't solved by Kabam's response.

    I don't play Raids, which is a relatively minor part of the game. If people are so willing to yell boycott over a minor aspect of the game, then that means that their problems with the game are not really everyone's problems with the game.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,631 ★★★★★

    Some of these comments lol what exactly did you guys expect? The boycott started cause of BGs and Raids, they sent massive comp for one and announced the changes being made for the next cycle, then laid out an entire timeline full of changes planned for the other one for the rest of the year, of course the boycott is over they already got what they wanted. Has nothing to do with this upcoming big sale, if anything they saved the big sale by announcing everything and communicating like they should've been doing before the boycott even happened.

    I got a very unpopular opinion. I think the "emergency BG Buff" and Raid compensation were a bit too much and generous. I also believe when they changes are live people will expect a lot more than what they will get.
    The Raids comp was definitely way too generous, I would never have expected something like that. BGs changes I'm not sure how I feel about yet cause although they sound very good on paper we still need to wait and see if they execute them properly. The immediate response though was definitely something I didn't expect either.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,900 ★★★★★

    altavista said:

    The youtubers calling for a boycott are the same people who whale out in order to get an advantage over the rest of the player pool to feed their ego and identity.
    So I was never following their example for either spending or not spending.
    I just make my own decisions based on what the deals are, how I'm feeling financially, and how I'm feeling about the game overall on a personal level.
    I know, personal decisionmaking and accountability=scary concepts for a lot of people.

    Nothing has changed for most players since the "call for boycott" button was pressed. The 1% got their "win", while the rest of us deal with the same problems in the game that weren't solved by Kabam's response.

    I don't play Raids, which is a relatively minor part of the game. If people are so willing to yell boycott over a minor aspect of the game, then that means that their problems with the game are not really everyone's problems with the game.
    lol just saw his recent video...hes so full of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-TwHps9KT0

    dude is ready to boycott for 1 week and gona SPEND on heart of fire and get 7* nick fury rofl, and spend on july 4th, "boycott" spending huh, you just gona spend on big DEALS rofl. so you didn't spend on 5$ daily deal and call it boycott rofl.
    They will do whatever it takes to garner views on their videos. As totem mentioned, everyone should decide for themselves if it’s worth spending money on the game. If they are enjoying it, have disposable income and want to spend then go for it. Personally I don’t think I am justified spending money on the game anymore since a critical element of enjoyment is missing at the moment.
  • Standardman1989Standardman1989 Member Posts: 613 ★★★
    The boycott did not work since Kabam put the gas for Lumatrix paying except for the gods of the bg..
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★

    Some of these comments lol what exactly did you guys expect? The boycott started cause of BGs and Raids, they sent massive comp for one and announced the changes being made for the next cycle, then laid out an entire timeline full of changes planned for the other one for the rest of the year, of course the boycott is over they already got what they wanted. Has nothing to do with this upcoming big sale, if anything they saved the big sale by announcing everything and communicating like they should've been doing before the boycott even happened.

    I got a very unpopular opinion. I think the "emergency BG Buff" and Raid compensation were a bit too much and generous. I also believe when they changes are live people will expect a lot more than what they will get.
    The Raids comp was definitely way too generous, I would never have expected something like that. BGs changes I'm not sure how I feel about yet cause although they sound very good on paper we still need to wait and see if they execute them properly. The immediate response though was definitely something I didn't expect either.
    This double dip is insane for BGs, and even without it, the rewards for climbing the track seem a bit off on the positive side. That's my opinion though.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★
    edited April 9

    CesarSV7 said:

    I don't see a valid reason to spend on this game these days. Either you whale out or you're left behind anyways. It's a sale fest all year long lol.

    Heart of Fire can have CGR, Nick, Hulkling and Kate Bishop added and I would still not care one bit.

    With that mentality then the game would die along time ago.

    Thats how usually how games in mobile die in general if people don’t spend.

    Look at what happen to realm of champions, transformers forge to fight and even Disney verse.

    Why fund a game whens its not making money? At the end of it’s a business. I’m just suprised the game is running 10+ years with plans to have this game running for the next 10 years.
    It's a mentality I developed within my game experience. I'm a player who enjoys competition, that's the prime reason I even play this game. Being a low spender around 2 years ago used to mean something for me: a chance to stay somewhat competitive.

    Grinding every aspect of this game used to be worth something for me however the game has turned completely into a pay to win game. With the insane amount of sales being offered now I would need to whale out to stay relevant amoungst my piers which is something I'm simply not willing to do.

    Effort and time investment have been depreciated; "Competitive" game mode rewards are meaningless in comparison to spending acquisitions; Knowledge, Skill, Strategy, etc are day after day discouraged while being roadblocked by roster strength.

    If I'm not being rewarded properly for playing this game while busting my behind in order to stay competitively relevant in top tier rankings, why would I spend more money?

    It definitely didn't encourage me to spend more, quite the opposite, I completely stopped spending and then played less and less and less. I don't need r4s or R3s to do content, I don't need to spend on revives either... There's simply not a single reason for me to spend.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★
    People have the wrong impression of me being against spending, I'm not, it funds the game we all play. However I'm against the way spending is being implemented in game and how competitive game mode ranks are strictly tied to insane amounts of spending.

    When roster strength overcomes Skill there's a problem because when you face skillfull players who whale out there's no point in playing the match as a low spender. It has that same effect of Valiant's facing Cavaliers in VT.

    In other words you whale out and push or don't whale out and stay casual. Being casual in my book does not require spending.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    edited April 9
    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    edited April 9
    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,921 ★★★★★
    edited April 9

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    He's taking a break from BG whilst he auto fights Epoch since SDE hurts FTP.
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★★
    edited April 9

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    He's taking a break from BG whilst he auto fights Epoch since SDE hurts FTP.

    Well kabam is gonna flood the gates with 7* release of nick fury and the rest of those champions who wont be released to basics for quite awhile, along with july 4th.

    So plenty of chances for people to awaken nick fury since i seen a lot of people say he needs awakening that badly.

    The floodgates for r4 7*’s will be everywhere.

    And my thoughts is that a next progression tier will be here soon with release of 9.3 or 9.4. Or cyber deals just depends how they will release the next chase by banquet 2025
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    You're annoying...

    No need for that, I can reach GC push to a certain threshold, slide my way down and climb back up. Same as I did in BG realm event where I placed top 4 overall. No, I don't need to buy Odin's, I choose to use my grinded units for my alliance goals since I don't need to spend on content.

    It's kinda dumb for me to ask for progression based matchmaking in VT if I'm not able to do that don't you think? And the reason I asked for that change isn't for my personal needs, it's for lower progression based player's needs because I know by experience what it is to be outplayed do to roster size in top tier rankings.

    That's also the reason why I know current incentives towards GC weeks 1,2 and 3 will mean absolutely nothing.

    Which is also the reason why I know current matchmaking system for lower progressed players is ridiculous.

    And so on, and so on, and so on...

    Anyways I'm done here, I have absolutely no need to keep answering your nonsense.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    edited April 9
    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    You're annoying...

    No need for that, I can reach GC push to a certain threshold, slide my way down and climb back up. Same as I did in BG realm event where I placed top 4 overall. No, I don't need to buy Odin's, I choose to use my grinded units for my alliance goals since I don't need to spend on content.

    It's kinda dumb for me to ask for progression based matchmaking in VT if I'm not able to do that don't you think? And the reason I asked for that change isn't for my personal needs, it's for lower progression based player's needs because I know by experience what it is to be outplayed do to roster size in top tier rankings.

    That's also the reason why I know current incentives towards GC weeks 1,2 and 3 will mean absolutely nothing.

    Which is also the reason why I know current matchmaking system for lower progressed players is ridiculous.

    And so on, and so on, and so on...

    Anyways I'm done here, I have absolutely no need to keep answering your nonsense.
    Rofl you are delusional if you think grinding BG event points is being non casual.
    Grinding 1 single mode and farming it. And you were going around calling people casual rofl....
    My nonsense, hilarious. You spent every unit possible every season to get BG event points, and went around calling Casual players to people who do end game content 🤣
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    He's taking a break from BG whilst he auto fights Epoch since SDE hurts FTP.
    Lmao

    1. My current casual state is probably worth a lot more than your non casual one.

    2. If you don't understand sarcasm it's not my problem.

    3. I was not wrong about Kabam reducing grinding resources and their focus being new player engagement.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,921 ★★★★★
    edited April 9
    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    He's taking a break from BG whilst he auto fights Epoch since SDE hurts FTP.
    Lmao

    1. My current casual state is probably worth a lot more than your non casual one.

    2. If you don't understand sarcasm it's not my problem.

    3. I was not wrong about Kabam reducing grinding resources and their focus being new player engagement.
    I really don't care about that. It's just funny that you say your taking a break because xyz, but here you are, not taking a break after a big post about it.

    2. My apologies , I didn't understand your sarcasm because you take it so seriously about FtP being ruined by SDE and all of your other posts that don't seem sarcastic (and yes, I did know your Epoch post was sarcastic because hopefully no one would be that oblivious )
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    So you stopped spending, therefore you are a casual player. Thought you said you weren't casual...

    Being casual for me means being in a top BG alliance placing first 10+ seasons including last season and both anniversary seasons while ranking Mysterium in solo and top 100 in solo event. No spending and milestone arena grinding.

    Low spending allowed me to aim for top 200 in solo ranking and top 10-30 in solo event with same alliance. This with Sigil and Collectors Daily Card. Never bought a single semi anual sale offer of any sort. However it's not worth the time, effort or money for me anymore.

    So yes, by my standings I'm a casual player now since I don't push my limits. For others not so casual.
    So you grind a lot of BG matches and probably farm the track...
    That was your definition of not casual
    Lol
    He's taking a break from BG whilst he auto fights Epoch since SDE hurts FTP.
    Lmao

    1. My current casual state is probably worth a lot more than your non casual one.

    2. If you don't understand sarcasm it's not my problem.

    3. I was not wrong about Kabam reducing grinding resources and their focus being new player engagement.
    I really don't care about that. It's just funny that you say your taking a break because cuz, but here you are, not taking a break after a big pair about it.

    2. My apologies , I didn't understand your sarcasm because you take it so seriously about FtP being ruined by SDE and all of your other posts that don't seem sarcastic (and yes, I did know your Epoch post was sarcastic because hopefully no one would be that oblivious )
    Don't lose anymore time on his nonsense. If Kabam actually punished point farming he would be absolutely nothing 🤣
  • ChovnerChovner Member Posts: 1,354 ★★★★★
    edited April 9
    If they can keep up this amount of communication, positive changes (reward buffs and game mode improvements), and bug free content then I’ll personally start thinking of spending again by the Banquet event. They’ve been subpar for way too long for just a little bit of good performance to make up for it.

    Additionally, their cadence for champ buffs really does have to speed up and they need to ditch this 6 month batch plan. Waiting close to a year to get a champ performing like they should is ridiculous in ANY game.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★
    You know what's actually hilarious?

    Having your noses stuck in every single Mcoc Forum post! Lmao... Get a life or do better on the game, I don't know, something!🤣

    Like I said you're not worth my time.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    Hahahaha the super non casual guy was just a BG farmer haaaaa
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