To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
So you practically ignored everyones comment and the points i made in my thread. Nice job.
To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
Right, so is FAM and he has a lot of utility as well, what's the argument there?
Not even just FAM but like 10 other champions listed in the thread, not to mention all the comments correcting that Hulkling isnt as good on defense as people sell him to be.
But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
Right, so is FAM and he has a lot of utility as well, what's the argument there?
Not even just FAM but like 10 other champions listed in the thread, not to mention all the comments correcting that Hulkling isnt as good on defense as people sell him to be.
But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
Hulkling has been neutralized almost completely on defense because of how stacked the 7* mystic class I don't even know how people can make an argument for it as if he was this huge threat on defense. Juggs, Wiccan, Rintrah, Tigra, Shathra, Werewolf, Chavez, Destroyer, Kushala, Sasquatch and the list goes on and on there are many champs that can easily do Hulkling these days with zero issues.
FAM is the better defender and by a lot, Hulkling is of course better than FAM on attack that bit I won't deny, but he wouldn't trivialize anything. If his design really was that broken the rebalancing program would've done something about it but they left him as is for a reason.
To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
Right, so is FAM and he has a lot of utility as well, what's the argument there?
Not even just FAM but like 10 other champions listed in the thread, not to mention all the comments correcting that Hulkling isnt as good on defense as people sell him to be.
But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
Hulkling has been neutralized almost completely on defense because of how stacked the 7* mystic class I don't even know how people can make an argument for it as if he was this huge threat on defense. Juggs, Wiccan, Rintrah, Tigra, Shathra, Werewolf, Chavez, Destroyer, Kushala, Sasquatch and the list goes on and on there are many champs that can easily do Hulkling these days with zero issues.
FAM is the better defender and by a lot, Hulkling is of course better than FAM on attack that bit I won't deny, but he wouldn't trivialize anything. If his design really was that broken the rebalancing program would've done something about it but they left him as is for a reason.
Yeah exactly, hulklings counters date so far back now (abs man etc) + not to mention a bunch that already countered him before his release like hood that its beyond me they spread misinformation here. Btw in my original post i also mention how you dont even need a counter /mystic champ to take him.
So lets summarize:
1) little defensive value especially compared to current dual threats (listed here) 2)No long form content value unlike onslaught, deathless thanos, serpent etc 3) No where near as fast on attack as nukes like Juggs, tigra, sparky , red guardian, deathless thanos
Conclusion: no whereas near as broken as some attackers are , or defenders (serpent etc)
What I legit don’t understand — I am not joking; I legitimately don’t understand — how the 7-star release process is gonna go in the future.
I mean, we are now in a world where 7r4 is here. People have those. I recognize that pool of players is probably still relatively small compared to the entire player base, but at the same time, the reality is that if 7r4s are now in the game, and we’re still saying some kits are too strong to be released, and it only goes as high as 7r6, then, um, how does it make sense to release them later, when if someone gets, IDK, a 7-star CGR one day and could 7r4 the kit THE SAME DAY?
I am serious — I don’t understand the logic. It literally seems backwards to me. They should have been mixing in SOME of these kits — we all know who they are — back when the ceiling was LOWER, not HIGHER. Back when there were fewer resources available, when the materials were harder to get.
Right?
Next week at this time, SOMEONE is gonna do SOMETHING with a 7r4 Tigra that is gonna make us all evaluate our life choices. They’re gonna get it tomorrow or the next day, and because we are where we are in the release cycle, that skilled person is gonna insta-rank the kit and go on a West Coast Avengers Rampage throughout the Battlerealm.
It’s going to be truly eye-opening.
And I just don’t understand how doing it this way is better than someone having gotten a 7-star Tigra, what, two years ago, and had to rank the kit more slowly.
I truly don’t understand the difference. I don’t understand the distinction.
The game is the game, people. Some kits are better than others, and it’s always been that way and it’s always gonna be that way. It’s why some of us beg and plead for a healthy buff program, because the best way to prevent this kind of devastation that these high-end kits will commit is by raising the floor of the weakest characters and giving us more tools to fight these kits.
What, are we just not gonna get CGR or Kate Bishop until the last week before 7r6 turns into 8r1?
To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
Right, so is FAM and he has a lot of utility as well, what's the argument there?
Not even just FAM but like 10 other champions listed in the thread, not to mention all the comments correcting that Hulkling isnt as good on defense as people sell him to be.
But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
Hulkling has been neutralized almost completely on defense because of how stacked the 7* mystic class I don't even know how people can make an argument for it as if he was this huge threat on defense. Juggs, Wiccan, Rintrah, Tigra, Shathra, Werewolf, Chavez, Destroyer, Kushala, Sasquatch and the list goes on and on there are many champs that can easily do Hulkling these days with zero issues.
FAM is the better defender and by a lot, Hulkling is of course better than FAM on attack that bit I won't deny, but he wouldn't trivialize anything. If his design really was that broken the rebalancing program would've done something about it but they left him as is for a reason.
Yeah exactly, hulklings counters date so far back now (abs man etc) + not to mention a bunch that already countered him before his release like hood that its beyond me they spread misinformation here. Btw in my original post i also mention how you dont even need a counter /mystic champ to take him.
So lets summarize:
1) little defensive value especially compared to current dual threats (listed here) 2)No long form content value unlike onslaught, deathless thanos, serpent etc 3) No where near as fast on attack as nukes like Juggs, tigra, sparky , red guardian, deathless thanos
Conclusion: no whereas near as broken as some attackers are , or defenders (serpent etc) </blockquote
I agree, literally any decent mystic runs through Hulkling. There is nothing about Hulkling, CGR, or scorpion that makes them “too powerful to be a 7 star”, especially when we literally have characters such as juggernaut, onslaught, the serpent, okoye, deathless thanos, and now red guardian, Tigra, and future ant man as 7 stars.
To add to your Juggs and Tigra comments, here's another even better example: https://youtu.be/AygNlkwB_ZQ?si=oXW8lkKT3NBovq7t 550k healthpools in six hits, yet the game is not ready for Hulkling lmao it is for Red Guardian but not for Hulkling, sure.
Mane I didn’t even think about red guardian, like kabam miss me with that “Hulkling is too strong” argument💀
"The game is not ready for Hulkling or CGR" *Red Guardian casually killing anything in BGs in six heavy attacks* 💀
Hulkling is an insane attacker and a nuts defender if you don't have very specific counters. What defensive value does red guardian have?
Right, so is FAM and he has a lot of utility as well, what's the argument there?
Not even just FAM but like 10 other champions listed in the thread, not to mention all the comments correcting that Hulkling isnt as good on defense as people sell him to be.
But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
Hulkling has been neutralized almost completely on defense because of how stacked the 7* mystic class I don't even know how people can make an argument for it as if he was this huge threat on defense. Juggs, Wiccan, Rintrah, Tigra, Shathra, Werewolf, Chavez, Destroyer, Kushala, Sasquatch and the list goes on and on there are many champs that can easily do Hulkling these days with zero issues.
FAM is the better defender and by a lot, Hulkling is of course better than FAM on attack that bit I won't deny, but he wouldn't trivialize anything. If his design really was that broken the rebalancing program would've done something about it but they left him as is for a reason.
Yeah exactly, hulklings counters date so far back now (abs man etc) + not to mention a bunch that already countered him before his release like hood that its beyond me they spread misinformation here. Btw in my original post i also mention how you dont even need a counter /mystic champ to take him.
So lets summarize:
1) little defensive value especially compared to current dual threats (listed here) 2)No long form content value unlike onslaught, deathless thanos, serpent etc 3) No where near as fast on attack as nukes like Juggs, tigra, sparky , red guardian, deathless thanos
Conclusion: no whereas near as broken as some attackers are , or defenders (serpent etc)
That's pretty much it yes, is he insane and better than FAM absolutely? But nowhere near broken territory, the game would've been ready for him this year and the fact that Galan is already being added further supports that. Hopefully they surprise us by the end of the year who knows.
One thing that I think is worth keeping in mind is that Fantman is in the crystal, and Hulkling is one of the best Fantman counters. If they added both at the same time, that would kind of neutralize Fantman's defensive prowess. By not adding Hulking at the same time, we can see a resurgence of Fantman on defense without worrying too much about excellent counters. I'm not saying that there won't be any counters to him, but we'll likely see him countered by different champions now than during his 6* heyday. I think that's a good thing. Hulkling will probably show up sooner or later, especially with this pool being as good as it is.
I'm not sure if I buy the "Hulkling is too OP for the game right now" argument, but I nonetheless think it may be wise to not release every broken champion in one crystal. I like the release cadence of older champs so far and I agree with Kabam's view of trying to hold some of the great ones back so that they have great older champs that they can release every now and again for a long period of time. I'd rather see a sustainable 5-year plan than just have all of them dumped on us in one year.
At the end of the day, the reasoning doesn't hold up. No reason for the team to double down with the Hulkling or CGR omission by saying they are too powerful for the game right now. The crystal release should have started with DP and then mention that she'd be available alongside a powerful champ in each of the other classes. Problem is, they didn't and they cant turn back time. I already mentioned Hulkling making it through balancing. He's not fine wine. He's the same Hulkling with the same kit as he's always been.
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But as how the person youre replying to completely omitted that from their comment tho is beyond me
FAM is the better defender and by a lot, Hulkling is of course better than FAM on attack that bit I won't deny, but he wouldn't trivialize anything. If his design really was that broken the rebalancing program would've done something about it but they left him as is for a reason.
So lets summarize:
1) little defensive value especially compared to current dual threats (listed here)
2)No long form content value unlike onslaught, deathless thanos, serpent etc
3) No where near as fast on attack as nukes like Juggs, tigra, sparky , red guardian, deathless thanos
Conclusion: no whereas near as broken as some attackers are , or defenders (serpent etc)
I mean, we are now in a world where 7r4 is here. People have those. I recognize that pool of players is probably still relatively small compared to the entire player base, but at the same time, the reality is that if 7r4s are now in the game, and we’re still saying some kits are too strong to be released, and it only goes as high as 7r6, then, um, how does it make sense to release them later, when if someone gets, IDK, a 7-star CGR one day and could 7r4 the kit THE SAME DAY?
I am serious — I don’t understand the logic. It literally seems backwards to me. They should have been mixing in SOME of these kits — we all know who they are — back when the ceiling was LOWER, not HIGHER. Back when there were fewer resources available, when the materials were harder to get.
Right?
Next week at this time, SOMEONE is gonna do SOMETHING with a 7r4 Tigra that is gonna make us all evaluate our life choices. They’re gonna get it tomorrow or the next day, and because we are where we are in the release cycle, that skilled person is gonna insta-rank the kit and go on a West Coast Avengers Rampage throughout the Battlerealm.
It’s going to be truly eye-opening.
And I just don’t understand how doing it this way is better than someone having gotten a 7-star Tigra, what, two years ago, and had to rank the kit more slowly.
I truly don’t understand the difference. I don’t understand the distinction.
The game is the game, people. Some kits are better than others, and it’s always been that way and it’s always gonna be that way. It’s why some of us beg and plead for a healthy buff program, because the best way to prevent this kind of devastation that these high-end kits will commit is by raising the floor of the weakest characters and giving us more tools to fight these kits.
What, are we just not gonna get CGR or Kate Bishop until the last week before 7r6 turns into 8r1?
It makes no sense to me, doing it this way.