If you could decide a new champion to be released in mcoc as Dark phoenix' counter, who'd that be?

Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,714 ★★★★★
First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



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  • The_0wenpusThe_0wenpus Member Posts: 349 ★★★
    Fin Fang Foom! Though cosmic might make a bit more sense than mystic.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,731 ★★★★★
    Malekith except Kabam makes him the Mystic equivalent of NTW to Bullseye.
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★★

    Goose the flerken cat


    Was all about the guy in the picture above until Goose entered the chat
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,114 ★★★
    Phoenix force thor or like someone said goose
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,604 ★★★★★
    edited May 11
    Agatha hopefully, or Surtur, Clea, Yimir, Blackheart, there are so many other mystics that aren’t in game yet
  • BulmktBulmkt Member Posts: 1,767 ★★★★★


    Pyro

    (He’s immune to nova flame because of his power to control fire 🔥)
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 301
    What would one need to counter them?

    If it's Novaflame and needs to be exclusive ish (assuming you mean acquisition wise) then a boss type would work, and in truth that would probably end up on an eidol realistically?

    If it's not an exclusive champ for acquisition then Thane, being an ex Phoenix Force user that would easily hold him up to
  • GlassbackGlassback Member Posts: 871 ★★★

    Malekith except Kabam makes him the Mystic equivalent of NTW to Bullseye.

    Yeah Malekith would be a good add👌🏼
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,700 ★★★★★
    edited May 11
    I'd have Shuma-Gorath

    He's also immune to nova flames, being untouched after Johnny tries to torch/incinerate him in one issue (after working with someone who kidnaps Sue).
  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,311 ★★★
    edited May 11
    Madelyn Pryor the goblin queen or time displaced Jean grey
    A cool feature would be if they fought against phoenix or dark Phoenix, the phoenix loses half its power cuz it doesn’t want to fight the love of its life
    Or Rachel grey
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,895 ★★★★
    - Surtur
    - Yimir
    - The Ancient One
    - Clea
    - Just give Ghost Rider a buff
    - Malekith
    - Pyro (I think someone else already said bc he’s immune to nova flame)

    And then here’s a one off idea…since we have Mr knight being introduced…moon knight is actually supposed to be a mystic since he’s from the same vein as juggernaut. So, with that being said, possibly moon knight or a moon night character like a playable konshu if they didn’t want to re-class moon knight
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,714 ★★★★★

    Malekith except Kabam makes him the Mystic equivalent of NTW to Bullseye.

    I really like that idea.
    In the Avengers:earth's mightiest heroes he used the Casket of ancient winters, right? Well, I can only imagine it's power isn't enough to rival Dark phoenix, but if we try to find an "Icy" counter, Malekith can for sure fill this role with the Casket.

    What would one need to counter them?

    If it's Novaflame and needs to be exclusive ish (assuming you mean acquisition wise) then a boss type would work, and in truth that would probably end up on an eidol realistically?

    If it's not an exclusive champ for acquisition then Thane, being an ex Phoenix Force user that would easily hold him up to

    I meant, the said counter have to be someone who it makes PERFECT SENSE for him to have Nova flames immunity, this immunity should remain treated as rarely as it is and not just being handed to anyone.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,895 ★★★★

    First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
    So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
    Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



    As much as I love yimir, I think surtur would be “the” counter
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,714 ★★★★★

    First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
    So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
    Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



    As much as I love yimir, I think surtur would be “the” counter
    Counter fire with fire?
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,895 ★★★★

    First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
    So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
    Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



    As much as I love yimir, I think surtur would be “the” counter
    Counter fire with fire?
    Immunity to nova flame is what you’d be looking for primarily. Would yimir have that built in his kit? He’s besicallh a yeti but fire melts ice
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,969 ★★★★★

    First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
    So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
    Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



    As much as I love yimir, I think surtur would be “the” counter
    Counter fire with fire?
    Immunity to nova flame is what you’d be looking for primarily. Would yimir have that built in his kit? He’s besicallh a yeti but fire melts ice
    The only champ who's immune to nova flames is iceman
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,714 ★★★★★

    First, surely this new champion has gotta have Nova flames immunity, but it also has to make sense and not be handed uncarefully to any champ, it have to remain exclusive.
    So my choice is Yimir! He's an out of the ordinary Ice giant, he'd be mystic, and he's cool, so I think he'd fit really well as a counter to Dark phoenix!
    Basically, in the game Marvel super heroes squad online, he and Surtur were the same boss fight, and we know that Surtur is a real big deal.



    As much as I love yimir, I think surtur would be “the” counter
    Counter fire with fire?
    Immunity to nova flame is what you’d be looking for primarily. Would yimir have that built in his kit? He’s besicallh a yeti but fire melts ice
    If Iceman can have Nova flames immunity, so can Yimir
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,594 ★★★★★
    Archangel counters her pretty hard. So he's good. AAR works if it is strong enough
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,594 ★★★★★
    Also, there's no need for any "grand" champion to counter her.

    A lil kid with arrows was one of the best counters for Maestro for a long time. Yes it's through pure damage, but, damage is utility
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,604 ★★★★★

    Buffed og ghost rider

    This
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,043 ★★★★★

    - Surtur
    - Yimir
    - The Ancient One
    - Clea
    - Just give Ghost Rider a buff
    - Malekith
    - Pyro (I think someone else already said bc he’s immune to nova flame)

    And then here’s a one off idea…since we have Mr knight being introduced…moon knight is actually supposed to be a mystic since he’s from the same vein as juggernaut. So, with that being said, possibly moon knight or a moon night character like a playable konshu if they didn’t want to re-class moon knight

    Moon Knight isn't really mystic. Sure he is the avatar of khonshu but in terms of how he fights it's always based on his mercenary training and in the comics there are runs where khonshu is presented as possibly being just an alter in Marc's head. He's skill through and through
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,043 ★★★★★
    I'm not really sure that just nova flame immunity is important given that ice man is and doesn't seem to be that great of a counter. What you want is potent atrophy/unstoppable buff duration reduction, maybe a lot of hits or energy resistance to deal with the nova flame of not an immunity, and maybe some poison
  • Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 472 ★★★
    A buffed dormammu would go hard and he isn’t even regular incinerate immune now 😂, also maybe cyttorak as a new champ and mephisto could be buffed as well
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,604 ★★★★★

    A buffed dormammu would go hard and he isn’t even regular incinerate immune now 😂, also maybe cyttorak as a new champ and mephisto could be buffed as well

    Dormammu should be the mystic Onslaught or Apoc
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