Will we get a champion who ignores protection/safeguard?

TP33 · May 18

It’s been a mechanic for ages and has become more and more common. Unlike regular resistances there isn’t really a way to ignore or bypass it yet, however do we think we will see a champion who can do so?

All sorts of interactions have been manipulated in almost every way imaginable, think about crits, resistances, regen, buffs and debuffs, surely protection is next on the chopping block to receive a work around/counter?

Or is protection such a fundamental mechanic, involved mainly in the form of nodes rather than champion abilities, that any champ who can bypass it would be too powerful? Maybe they could limit personal protection effects, ignoring nodes, or do we already have that in the form of AAR?

Just a neat little thought experiment i would like to hear others thoughts on

DahMastah · May 18

Damage over time

Nameless_IW · May 18

No we won't because kabam needs to make money to pay the bills and feed a multitude of families.

Buttehrs · May 18

Just use DoT champs

Dtl7714 · May 18

There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

Terminatrix · May 18

For Dark Phoenix, using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.

xenchief · May 18

Dtl7714 said:
There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

SMH people still sleeping on falcon

ShashankGupta · May 18

Reaching sp3 while she can use special to inflict nova flame that still a great ask

Terminatrix said:
For Dark Phoenix,

using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.

EdisonLaw · May 18

Champs with burst damage like Galan and/or DOT bypass Safeguard with ease

PT_99 · May 18

Dtl7714 said:
There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

Yeah but then you'll have to play Falcon.

Average_Desi · May 18

If I'm right, the way protection works is by applying a reduction at the end of all damage calculation.

So the only way it can be prevented as if now is by using ability accuracy reduction.

Maybe a champ with the clause "if damage is reduced by any means, deal and additional burst of x damage" can be useful.

But the problem is that that damage would also be subject to the protection damage reduction.

captain_rogers · May 18

I always wanted a champ who is immune to all weakness and attack reduction effects.

ShashankGupta · May 18

captain_rogers said:
I always wanted a champ who is immune to all weakness and attack reduction effects.

Technically lady deathstrike is immune to both as her damage comes through armor not by rank and stat level

Dtl7714 · May 18

PT_99 said:

Dtl7714 said:
There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon
Yeah but then you'll have to play Falcon.

I do all the time. Have him as a 7* R3. Also by passes Hazard Shift, Evade(which actually inceases his damage), thorns type damage, Thing's rockstacks, and lots more. And while locked on crits for 17k on mediums and 11k on lights.

I am missing this down side to playing him that you claim exists.

Dtl7714 · May 18

xenchief said:

Dtl7714 said:
There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon
SMH people still sleeping on falcon

Especially when people like to talk about champs being good or bad based off of having utility and his lockon being one of the best utilities in the game.

EdisonLaw · May 18

Terminatrix said:
For Dark Phoenix, using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.

Unless the attacker has power gain, sp3s aren’t that fast in BGs. Can be used elsewhere though

Will we get a champion who ignores protection/safeguard?

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