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Will we get a champion who ignores protection/safeguard?

TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,773 ★★★★★
It’s been a mechanic for ages and has become more and more common. Unlike regular resistances there isn’t really a way to ignore or bypass it yet, however do we think we will see a champion who can do so?

All sorts of interactions have been manipulated in almost every way imaginable, think about crits, resistances, regen, buffs and debuffs, surely protection is next on the chopping block to receive a work around/counter?

Or is protection such a fundamental mechanic, involved mainly in the form of nodes rather than champion abilities, that any champ who can bypass it would be too powerful? Maybe they could limit personal protection effects, ignoring nodes, or do we already have that in the form of AAR?

Just a neat little thought experiment i would like to hear others thoughts on

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  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,215 ★★★★
    No we won't because kabam needs to make money to pay the bills and feed a multitude of families.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,207 ★★★★★
    Just use DoT champs
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 4,088 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    For Dark Phoenix, using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.
  • xenchiefxenchief Member Posts: 107
    Dtl7714 said:

    There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

    SMH people still sleeping on falcon
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 720 ★★★
    edited May 18

    Reaching sp3 while she can use special to inflict nova flame that still a great ask

    For Dark Phoenix,

    using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.

  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,009 ★★★★★
    Champs with burst damage like Galan and/or DOT bypass Safeguard with ease
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,304 ★★★★★
    Dtl7714 said:

    There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

    Yeah but then you'll have to play Falcon.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,704 ★★★★★
    If I'm right, the way protection works is by applying a reduction at the end of all damage calculation.

    So the only way it can be prevented as if now is by using ability accuracy reduction.

    Maybe a champ with the clause "if damage is reduced by any means, deal and additional burst of x damage" can be useful.

    But the problem is that that damage would also be subject to the protection damage reduction.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,352 ★★★★★
    I always wanted a champ who is immune to all weakness and attack reduction effects.
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    I always wanted a champ who is immune to all weakness and attack reduction effects.

    Technically lady deathstrike is immune to both as her damage comes through armor not by rank and stat level
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 508 ★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Dtl7714 said:

    There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

    Yeah but then you'll have to play Falcon.
    I do all the time. Have him as a 7* R3. Also by passes Hazard Shift, Evade(which actually inceases his damage), thorns type damage, Thing's rockstacks, and lots more. And while locked on crits for 17k on mediums and 11k on lights.

    I am missing this down side to playing him that you claim exists.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 508 ★★★
    xenchief said:

    Dtl7714 said:

    There is a safeguard counter. Falcon can bypass Safeguard with lockon

    SMH people still sleeping on falcon
    Especially when people like to talk about champs being good or bad based off of having utility and his lockon being one of the best utilities in the game.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,009 ★★★★★

    For Dark Phoenix, using a Sp 3 removes her safeguard for 10 seconds. That will open a window for a lot of damage if you have a high damage dealing champ.

    Unless the attacker has power gain, sp3s aren’t that fast in BGs. Can be used elsewhere though
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