Void is still a top?

Trafalgarwar96Trafalgarwar96 Member Posts: 699 ★★★★
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I finally duped my 7s void. But now that i have nefaria, the leader, deathless she hulk and ibom, he is still worthy of a rank up and 180 stones?

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  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★★★
    yeah still better than leader, dsh and ibom at almost everything, dsh has more damage tho
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,203 ★★★★★
    It depends on what you want to do with them. I'll leave the Leader out of this since I don't have any experience, but out of the rest, I'd say that Void is unquestionably the better heal/power reversal champ. If that's what you want, he's your guy. The others are geared more toward stopping those things than outright turn them around on the opponent. If the opponent has a high enough power gain, Void can make sure that they never ever throw a special (after he's gotten his petrifies up); and likewise, he can reverse someone to death if they've got a strong enough healing.

    Does that mean that I think he's the best overall champion out of all of those? No. I think that at least Nefaria and DSH outperform him immensely in most categories - just not that one specific category. As for iBom, he's probably a better champion if the opponent doesn't have poison immunity or resistance, but is just immensely hampered if they have it. Out of the two, I'd say that Void fills a more important niche than iBom does.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,365 ★★★★★
    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,072 ★★★★★
    Wherever you need void rn, 6* r5 max sig void works.
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,215 ★★★★
    i haven't been unable to dupe my void from loyalty crystal and highly considering using my 7* awakening gem (generic) on him.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,375 ★★★★
    As sm with a r3 sig 200 void, I love him to death. I also have r3 nefa and r2 dsh, they're great and I also use them a fair bit, but void is my daily driver in war for sure.

    It's mostly down to my personal preference as void is just so simple to play, on top of being very safe and reliable. I find that I just play better with void, his animations are very fluid and his kit just flows really well. He also holds up incredibly in war, able to take a ton of newer defenders and nodes with his (pretty much) unavoidable dmg and flexibility.

    That's not to knock down the others, nefa and dsh are among my favourites too. They are probably the better picks as they come equipped with the modern versions of the power/regen control utility. I'm just saying, don't sleep on my boi void, that's all.

    That said, I haven't yet tried him out on the new war format, don't know how his intimidating presence debuff dmg scales for that.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,859 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,365 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
    I've done all story and endgame content and there isn't a single fight where I actually needed that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing as per usual lmfao if you wanna sit there for two minutes just dexing against the wall while you wait for fear of the void trigger then go off I guess.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,773 ★★★★★
    I just used my 6* Void for Diablo in the Necro challenge.
    I do have a duped 7* at rank 1, but he needs high sig and just not sure he's worth those rare resources.
    a 7R4 sig 200 Void can for sure be a good dual champ even in BGs, but then again, a lot of champs at 7R4 sig 200 can be good right now.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,252 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    captain_rogers said:

    Wherever you need void rn, 6* r5 max sig void works.

    6* 😳😭💀🤣

    But he's very very safe war attacker
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,365 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
    I've done all story and endgame content and there isn't a single fight where I actually needed that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing as per usual lmfao.
    I didn’t know I live rent free in your brain. Anyways whether you need it or not, it’s a unique ability that void has which no other champ can do. Except quake of course but until such time that quake is rarity locked, void is the only champ who can do it.
    You must be charging rent in your head too since you're clearly broke for attention, took you only four minutes to reply it's almost like you were waiting for my reply since 7am.
    Anyways yes I don't need that ability anywhere therefore I don't care about it, there's your answer.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,735 ★★★★★
    Void needs high sig to perform the best, compared to Count Nefaria who doesn’t even need to be awakened
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    I guess it depends if you have the patience for him . Personally I prefer someone faster
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,859 ★★★★★
    Sachhyam257 said:



    That said, I haven't yet tried him out on the new war format, don't know how his intimidating presence debuff dmg scales for that.

    Tried him this war and intimidating presence debuffs were ticking for 26k damage with just 2 debuffs plus FOTV.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,914 ★★★★
    Depends on where you using him

    For battlegrounds, he's too slow

    Everywhere else, he is good
  • KennadoKennado Member Posts: 1,016 ★★★
    Pause
  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 701 ★★★
    Depends on usage, I am using my 6r4 sig 200 Void much more in Story Quest 9.2 than i had anticipated. I already have a 7* Nefaria at r2 and Ibom at 6r4 too. Void is just so much safer with the sheer amount of regen and power gain nodes being released.

    Didnt like Leader and dont have DSH, so cant comment there
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,375 ★★★★
    edited May 19
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
    I've done all story and endgame content and there isn't a single fight where I actually needed that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing as per usual lmfao if you wanna sit there for two minutes just dexing against the wall while you wait for fear of the void trigger then go off I guess.
    Just used my void in a gc match vs a r3 red skull as I didn't have any better option (nefa, void, moleman, etc as options, went with void). Managed to beat him with ~20s left on the clock and I still had ~90% hp. Nothing crazy, but I probably would not have finished this fight with any of the other non-counters I had left, especially in this meta where red skull gets a ton of energize to keep cycling specials. All I did was bait his heavy to counter (because of stun reflect) and then heavy counter his sp1s. That's literally it, but I was able to get him down with void's dot, because it applies periodically on it's own and with his specials. I could just dance around while avoiding him, and he still lost hp. I would attach a screenshot but the opponent forfeit that round so the fight info wasn't saved :[

    Not the ideal option obviously, but I'm just giving you an example of how that aspect of his kit came in handy for me.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,365 ★★★★★
    Sachhyam257 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
    I've done all story and endgame content and there isn't a single fight where I actually needed that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing as per usual lmfao if you wanna sit there for two minutes just dexing against the wall while you wait for fear of the void trigger then go off I guess.
    Just used my void in a gc match vs a r3 red skull as I didn't have any better option (nefa, void, moleman, etc as options, went with void). Managed to beat him with ~20s left on the clock and I still had ~90% hp. Nothing crazy, but I probably would not have finished this fight with any of the other non-counters I had left, especially in this meta where red skull gets a ton of energize to keep cycling specials. All I did was bait his heavy to counter (because of stun reflect) and then heavy counter his sp1s. That's literally it, but I was able to get him down with void's dot, because it applies periodically on it's own and with his specials. I could just dance around while avoiding him, and he still lost hp. I would attach a screenshot but the opponent forfeit that round so the fight info wasn't saved :[

    Not the ideal option obviously, but I'm just giving you an example of how that aspect of his kit came in handy for me.
    I don't doubt it can come in handy for some people but because of the size of my roster there's really no point for me personally, I have answers for pretty much every current meta defender. Also, for Arcane 1 which is where I'm currently at that score is most likely a loss, facing a lot of Mysterium players because of the matchmaking thing. I'm not saying Void is bad just that he's slow and I have no use for him solely because of that.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,375 ★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Sachhyam257 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I wouldn't invest in Void, I have all of those too and they do everything Void can do but faster (except Leader, he's very mid)

    Can any of those other champs kill opponents without hitting them even once?
    I've done all story and endgame content and there isn't a single fight where I actually needed that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing as per usual lmfao if you wanna sit there for two minutes just dexing against the wall while you wait for fear of the void trigger then go off I guess.
    Just used my void in a gc match vs a r3 red skull as I didn't have any better option (nefa, void, moleman, etc as options, went with void). Managed to beat him with ~20s left on the clock and I still had ~90% hp. Nothing crazy, but I probably would not have finished this fight with any of the other non-counters I had left, especially in this meta where red skull gets a ton of energize to keep cycling specials. All I did was bait his heavy to counter (because of stun reflect) and then heavy counter his sp1s. That's literally it, but I was able to get him down with void's dot, because it applies periodically on it's own and with his specials. I could just dance around while avoiding him, and he still lost hp. I would attach a screenshot but the opponent forfeit that round so the fight info wasn't saved :[

    Not the ideal option obviously, but I'm just giving you an example of how that aspect of his kit came in handy for me.
    I don't doubt it can come in handy for some people but because of the size of my roster there's really no point for me personally, I have answers for pretty much every current meta defender. Also, for Arcane 1 which is where I'm currently at that score is most likely a loss, facing a lot of Mysterium players because of the matchmaking thing. I'm not saying Void is bad just that he's slow and I have no use for him solely because of that.
    Sure, I mean he definitely isn't the fastest or the best counter for meta defenders, but he isn't that far off. I'm not going argue if someone doesn't want to invest that many resources into void and put him in their deck, it's completely understandeable. I'm just saying that I DID invest those resources into him and he has not let me down so far, I'd even go as far as saying he has exceeded my expectations by a mile. People are definitely still underestimating how good void is as a champ.

    I'm currently in Arcane II, which is where I'll be hanging up my boots lol. I've hit 200 points for that radiance objective, and I'll just chill here till the end of the season. If you're pushing for Mysterium, good luck mate :)
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,668 ★★★★★
    Imo Void always be good. As defender he is still nasty and as attacker he have most unique damage in game with solid utility

    For context, from poolies event i chose him and investing him as i will take him to r4 as well. Othewise it depend upon your taste as well
  • doctorbdoctorb Member Posts: 2,028 ★★★★
    Still yes. With him, I play conservative.
    Lot of parry, stun, retreat and let enemy die on their own.
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