Gentle rework

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  • JohnnooooooJohnnoooooo Member Posts: 279 ★★★
    edited May 23
    I love Gentle, he's one of favourite champs, I have him at R3 sig 40 and he's going to R4 next.. only thing ide change and it's tiny, is I would add guaranteed crits on his sp2 at 12 muscle mass. Even with his really high crit rate and my R3 6* gambit relic, I somehow always only crit on 2 or 3 hits.. the payoff of guaranteed crits for the damage back would be fair.. but that's me being picky.. I love the champ

    Oh and IsoMid, just wants some extra crit rate, and that would make her perfect imo
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,237 ★★★★★

    I personally think , isophene is not that bad and not so good ,

    Mid then 🙈
  • HarryatomixHarryatomix Member Posts: 559 ★★★

    Ezzy said:

    Gentle needs a rework ASAP this character is quite poor.

    classic statement of someone that doesn't know what they are talking about.

    Gentle and Isophene i've assigned plenty of fights in war... they have their place in BG. Gentle is a huge stall on Def and current attack stun reflect is something he is immune to.
    Isophene is great for people with smaller rosters and the mystic metas. very simple to use , great immunities and counters many cosmics , tech and mutants.

    They have their specific uses.. and it is complete ignorance and a troll to put out statements without any reasoning or evidence.
    Mind if I ask u about war? I dont play tier 1 war, are there any places where new falcon is good for that u send him actively?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,651 ★★★★★
    He’s a good champ, on attack and defense. Rework is definitely not needed
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,331 ★★★★★
    psp742 said:

    I pull Gentle from Titan and honestly don't know how to feel.. he seems fine as is but I doubt i am maximizing him to his full potential.. It did say he need awaken and high sig to negate the built-in recoil damage from sp1 and sp2 (could be i misunderstood that)

    but if you are able to get 11muscle mass and then heavy to sp2.. you don't get the recoil damage back.. is that right or wrong.. I could rank3 him.. but I'm holding back since I have Dazzler, Weapon-X, NTW at rank2.. Sauron (100) might not be the best but he has some uses.

    He doesn't need super high sig around 80 is the sweet spot you take only 5% per special attack so for BGs and war that's good enough, for longer fights where you need multiple sp2s however yes you need that sig 200.
  • Chief_WiggumChief_Wiggum Member Posts: 219 ★★

    Ezzy said:

    Gentle needs a rework ASAP this character is quite poor.

    classic statement of someone that doesn't know what they are talking about.

    Gentle and Isophene i've assigned plenty of fights in war... they have their place in BG. Gentle is a huge stall on Def and current attack stun reflect is something he is immune to.
    Isophene is great for people with smaller rosters and the mystic metas. very simple to use , great immunities and counters many cosmics , tech and mutants.

    They have their specific uses.. and it is complete ignorance and a troll to put out statements without any reasoning or evidence.
    Mind if I ask u about war? I dont play tier 1 war, are there any places where new falcon is good for that u send him actively?
    I was referring to gentle and isophene... Haven't had to assign Joaquin Torres falcon.. Don't think we have anyone that has one. Can't think of a case where he would be required on the war map better than another option.
  • ToniXD_16ToniXD_16 Member Posts: 255 ★★
    Bro either youre just bad or delusional maybe both but Gentle is insane especially with suicides go checked out this is just mindless bickering
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    100 percent changed my mind
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    Got this clown out of a titan and it’s either sacrifice health for good damage that NEEDS crits or mid damage . He’s good for what he does which is bullseye but yeah, it’s not looking good. He’s like ihulk 0.1 with less damage less safety and less damage reliability. And I’m not removing his muscle mass cos his damage sucks without
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    I like him a lot so I really tried to salvage his reputation but no please, this was a painful review to make
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,516 ★★★★★
    psp742 said:

    I pull Gentle from Titan and honestly don't know how to feel.. he seems fine as is but I doubt i am maximizing him to his full potential.. It did say he need awaken and high sig to negate the built-in recoil damage from sp1 and sp2 (could be i misunderstood that)

    but if you are able to get 11muscle mass and then heavy to sp2.. you don't get the recoil damage back.. is that right or wrong.. I could rank3 him.. but I'm holding back since I have Dazzler, Weapon-X, NTW at rank2.. Sauron (100) might not be the best but he has some uses.

    So I know almost no one uses Recoil masteries anymore, but he's a great option for them as he doesn't take Recoil at all unless at 12 charges.. as for the 12 charges.. it's a decision you make based on each fight you are in.. if you are in BGs and ending health matters, you must decide if your next sp2 will kill.. if you think it will launch it at full mass.. if you are unsure it will kill, use the light ender to drop one before launching

    Now, if you're in AW and ending health doesn't matter.. just winning the fight, then just let it fly at full mass for extra damage.. because a good war fight is a finished war fight imo.. the sooner you get out the better (less opportunity for something to go sideways)
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,331 ★★★★★
    I've been using Gentle a lot more this season since he hasn't been banned that often and while I still don't think he needs a rework, I have changed my mind on the buff part. Either he's bugged or my luck is just that bad but I've barely been getting crits on sp2 even with class advantage sometimes which doesn't make sense at all, Red Guardian and Sunspot both crit more often with less crit rating than him on sp2. That 5k crit rating honestly feels more like 2k 75% of the time, so he's either bugged and they need to fix it or that number needs to go up to 6k-7k because right now he's really only consistent and reliable for BGs with suicides on and max sig otherwise it's really a 50/50 with the crits and it sucks when you get only one or two, or none which happened to me yesterday against a Photon of all defenders.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,757 ★★★★★
    This dude doesn't need a buff.
    I hate fighting him on defense; he's super annoying and tanky.
    I can't believe I picked the green falcon over him from a titan nexus three months ago.
    Might be one of the dumber things I've done in this game...
  • GostingGosting Member Posts: 61
    Ezzy said:

    Gentle needs a rework ASAP this character is quite poor.

    Gentle is a really strong champion that doesn't need any rework. I don't understand why you think like that.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,331 ★★★★★

    This dude doesn't need a buff.
    I hate fighting him on defense; he's super annoying and tanky.
    I can't believe I picked the green falcon over him from a titan nexus three months ago.
    Might be one of the dumber things I've done in this game...

    He 100% needs a buff on offense, not a huge one but a slight one cause right now his damage is way too inconsistent for him to be worth running in your deck. On defense he's really not that crazy you just need energy damage, mine's been clapped even by Shuri this season.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,651 ★★★★★

    I've been using Gentle a lot more this season since he hasn't been banned that often and while I still don't think he needs a rework, I have changed my mind on the buff part. Either he's bugged or my luck is just that bad but I've barely been getting crits on sp2 even with class advantage sometimes which doesn't make sense at all, Red Guardian and Sunspot both crit more often with less crit rating than him on sp2. That 5k crit rating honestly feels more like 2k 75% of the time, so he's either bugged and they need to fix it or that number needs to go up to 6k-7k because right now he's really only consistent and reliable for BGs with suicides on and max sig otherwise it's really a 50/50 with the crits and it sucks when you get only one or two, or none which happened to me yesterday against a Photon of all defenders.

    Yeah that was basically what I was saying earlier with the crits, like it’s not too consistent
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