I haven't bothered to log in here since June due to the embarrassing censorship instituted typically, but I had to take the time to post and add my staggering disappointment with the largely awful champs you've provided.
Yeah, Angela is pretty nice damage... no utility, no immunities, really only good in a straight up fight with no strategy or difficult mechanics to counter... but nice damage. 3 or 4 others are decent when not awakened. But then we don't get to choose out of this pool do we? No. So we'll have a 1 in 6 chance if getting a useable champ. Most of these are trash, or must be awakened to be of any use.
I don't care at all that a 1/25 6star is at the power level of a 4/55 5star when that 6star champ is Iron Fist or Nebula or Karnak. I'm not benching a maxed 4star in favor of most of those. You guys are making the high end game so impossible to play, that without power control, immunities, or ability reduction, you may as well not bother.
This list is shockingly disappointing, and the most insulting part of it is the inclusion of champs you know full well are junk without being duped. The first 24, if nothing else, should ALL be champs that are good without awakening.
Hey everyone!There a couple of thing that seriously bother me!I know they've been discussed already but i can't get over them,so i will mention them again:
-First of all the fact that 6* are equal(in fact slightly STRONGER) to 4/55 5* at rank1/25!I mean just think about it,even without them being god tier champs etc,they will be far ahead of 5* already at rank3,and become even stronger at rank4,5!Its too much without a single reason!I understand they(most probably) aren't going to change this but they SHOULD!!!
-Secondly the adrenaline mechanic!I am pretty sure(and hope) the Kabam guys have already tested it thoroughly,but still its a huge difference in the game!Giving a champ a mechanic of regeneration makes a huge difference(and especially considering that for a 6* even a small percentage of life can be greater than the regeneration of some really good regenerating 4* champs....just think about a 6* Luke cage having better region than a 4* x-23 because of that mechanic!Its vastly different than adding an extra damage for sp3 or taking less damage!
Lastly as @DNA3000 said it seems that adrenaline might even help the non-regenerating champs even more than the regenerating ones...which maybe can balance them,BUT in my opinion its WRONG to balance regenerating champs and non-regenating champs in their ability to regain health,this is exactly what differentiates them,thats the reason we like certain champs,it doesn't seem fair to have a luke cage or daredevil regenerate!Dont get me wrong I'd love to see them buffed,but in a logical way!
Please Kabam reconsider your thoughts before its too late(although i feel it might already be too late!) @Kabam Miike try take those to concerns to the game team PLEASE!!!
What criteria did you use to decide on those champions. You know there are better options and you decided to go with the worse ones in my opinion. Why is that?
These are far from the worst choices. Do you remember the initial 5-Star pool? This is streets ahead of that, and over time, that pool became larger and larger, and included more and more Champions that players really wanted to see.
Choosing champs which are "not the worst" can't be the main criteria for the 6* pool. The other thing which is not acceptable from my point of view, is the fact that many players will go for the 6* featured crystal because they are not satisfied with the base pool. In fact, you are adding content which is going to be rejected by many players from the very beginning. It's like giving a lego set with missing pieces as a christmas present.
I'am not expecting great champs like magik or gwenpool from these crystals. Let's divide the whole champion pool into 5 tiers of which the fifth one is godlike and the first one is considered not useful. As I said, I absolutely don't expect you to fill the crystals with Tier-5-Champs. But you could have chosen at least 12 of them from T4 and 12 from T3. The problem with the current pool is the gigantic gap between the champs. We have Angela (T4) on the one hand and then Deadpool X-Force (Why on earth??? Tier 1) on the other hand. This thing has to be far more balanced.
Some of the champs have to replaced. The arguments are: Useless without signature skill or completely useless
- Deadpool (useless) --> Rogue / Psylocke
- Juggernaut (useless w/o signature) --> Guillotine
- Iron Fist (useless w/o signature) --> The Hood
- Jane Foster (useless) -> Doc Strange
- Daredevil (useless w/o signature) --> Crossbones
- Rocket Racoon (HP way too low) --> Vision or Ultron
- Kingpin (useless) --> Hawkeye
Another reason for this list is the fact, that there almost no champs with decent accuracy reduction (like Crossbones has it) or power control (like Vision has it)
Again, no one is calling for god tiers, but at least make the content balanced and useful.
@Sickstring1 Has given good suggestions compared to what you guys are offering. They are not gods but at least they have some use. Rogue, psylocke, guilotine, the hood, hawkeye, vision, crossbones, and dr strange.
@Kabam Miike so with the new 6* champs coming end of jan, how will kabam be changing the outdated rewards for AW to now feature these shards and or more 4 and 5* shards?
Also how will you guys be changing the alliance events to help keep up with the end game community with regards to rewards?
C'Mon Miike... Can you address what I pointed out earlier about Venom missing from this list?
As we said when that image was first added, it was not at all indicative of the Champions that would be available. We had no idea who was going to end up in the Crystal at that time.
Thank you for the response. I would point out that 2/3 *are* in the list... Will feedback to the list have any impact? Can the roster change before this goes live?
The Inventory Capacity for Tier 5 Basics will also be increasing with the 17.0 release! You'll be able to hold on to 6 of those valuable catalysts without worrying about them expiring.
You've been asked multiple times but have answer(or not seen them). Would the capacity for T2A also be increased?
War rewards are indeed very outdated, especially considering that now we will have to fight 6star defenders there as well. I hope something will be done in this regard, because it was already hard to find players who even bother about alliance war in intermediate tier
I love the mystic choices especially... who are the 4 least popular mystic champs again? Oh yeah... the 4 in the 6 star crystal. Well done guys!
Not to mention the fact that Jane Foster was in the underdog challenge. Just to remind you: The underdog challenge consisted of the most hated champs (according to polls). To sum up the conclusions to the players votings chronologically:
- Most players think Jane Foster is worthless
- Let's make new content, where you have to fight the most useless champs
- Let's call it the underdog challenge
- Let's add Jane Foster to that content (due to the fact that she's useless)
- And now let's add Jane Foster to the crystal with the rarest and most powerful champs in the whole game
Karnak
Iron Fist
King Groot
Beast
Thor (Jane Foster)
Black Bolt
Rocket Racoon
All need buffs to make them viable 6* champions. Just like with the og 5* pool and magik, rhino and winter soldier getting buffs after being in the 5* pool.
24 champs means such a tiny chance to dupe any of them anytime soon.
I have 46 or so 5*s; around 14 not awakened. Only use maybe 8 of these for anything aside from arena. I keep selling 4*s to get 5* shards hoping to get duplicate 5*s but I keep pulling trash useless champs.
This is pushing me further and further away from this game. So many other things I am missing. So I guess I should be thankful.
It's possible that you selling your champs is what's pushing you away. it's fine that you do that to gain more shards, but you're doing it in hopes of getting more useful 5*'s and "hope" is a very degenerate game.
@Kabam Miike JUST AN IDEA: Maybe 6* regen champs could gain armor or attack from Adrenaline!!! That would be exciting just as regular 6* champs gaining regen, otherwise they won't benefit of the same increased value added by this new mechanics
The Inventory Capacity for Tier 5 Basics will also be increasing with the 17.0 release! You'll be able to hold on to 6 of those valuable catalysts without worrying about them expiring.
You've been asked multiple times but have answer(or not seen them). Would the capacity for T2A also be increased?
With the difficulty of getting 6 star shards , the quality of champ should be there. In order to open a 6 star champ you had to 100% chapter 5 and the last 2 uncollected monthly events. Most of the champs on this list do need to be awakened. Given the rarity of 6 stars they should all come awakened at level 1. This would still require a dupe to become stronger, but a fair trade off given the list.
Any 6 star at rank 2 should be a viable option to 100%LOL. I would like to see anyone clear the easy path in LOL with an unduped Deadpool x force at rank 2/35 6 *
Kabam this was ur opportunity to add the ones that are not in the 5* crystals, like SW, Thor, DS, MM, WM, Electro, BW, VISION, WOLVY. But u did great adding some useless champs (KABAMMED). The only decent and good news is DD (classic) and Capww2.
Kabam this was ur opportunity to add the ones that are not in the 5* crystals, like SW, Thor, DS, MM, WM, Electro, BW, VISION, WOLVY. But u did great adding some useless champs (KABAMMED). The only decent and good news is DD (classic) and Capww2.
But saying that Thor JF, Deadpool XF, and Iron Fist aren't among the worst current champs ... I disagree with that claim, which Miike specifically made.
I would disagree with that statement (to clarify, I do not believe Thor JF and Iron Fist are among the worst champs) but that's not what my post discussed. I specifically made a statement about saying something is useless for end game content explicitly.
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Yeah, Angela is pretty nice damage... no utility, no immunities, really only good in a straight up fight with no strategy or difficult mechanics to counter... but nice damage. 3 or 4 others are decent when not awakened. But then we don't get to choose out of this pool do we? No. So we'll have a 1 in 6 chance if getting a useable champ. Most of these are trash, or must be awakened to be of any use.
I don't care at all that a 1/25 6star is at the power level of a 4/55 5star when that 6star champ is Iron Fist or Nebula or Karnak. I'm not benching a maxed 4star in favor of most of those. You guys are making the high end game so impossible to play, that without power control, immunities, or ability reduction, you may as well not bother.
This list is shockingly disappointing, and the most insulting part of it is the inclusion of champs you know full well are junk without being duped. The first 24, if nothing else, should ALL be champs that are good without awakening.
-First of all the fact that 6* are equal(in fact slightly STRONGER) to 4/55 5* at rank1/25!I mean just think about it,even without them being god tier champs etc,they will be far ahead of 5* already at rank3,and become even stronger at rank4,5!Its too much without a single reason!I understand they(most probably) aren't going to change this but they SHOULD!!!
-Secondly the adrenaline mechanic!I am pretty sure(and hope) the Kabam guys have already tested it thoroughly,but still its a huge difference in the game!Giving a champ a mechanic of regeneration makes a huge difference(and especially considering that for a 6* even a small percentage of life can be greater than the regeneration of some really good regenerating 4* champs....just think about a 6* Luke cage having better region than a 4* x-23 because of that mechanic!Its vastly different than adding an extra damage for sp3 or taking less damage!
Lastly as @DNA3000 said it seems that adrenaline might even help the non-regenerating champs even more than the regenerating ones...which maybe can balance them,BUT in my opinion its WRONG to balance regenerating champs and non-regenating champs in their ability to regain health,this is exactly what differentiates them,thats the reason we like certain champs,it doesn't seem fair to have a luke cage or daredevil regenerate!Dont get me wrong I'd love to see them buffed,but in a logical way!
Please Kabam reconsider your thoughts before its too late(although i feel it might already be too late!)
@Kabam Miike try take those to concerns to the game team PLEASE!!!
Choosing champs which are "not the worst" can't be the main criteria for the 6* pool. The other thing which is not acceptable from my point of view, is the fact that many players will go for the 6* featured crystal because they are not satisfied with the base pool. In fact, you are adding content which is going to be rejected by many players from the very beginning. It's like giving a lego set with missing pieces as a christmas present.
I'am not expecting great champs like magik or gwenpool from these crystals. Let's divide the whole champion pool into 5 tiers of which the fifth one is godlike and the first one is considered not useful. As I said, I absolutely don't expect you to fill the crystals with Tier-5-Champs. But you could have chosen at least 12 of them from T4 and 12 from T3. The problem with the current pool is the gigantic gap between the champs. We have Angela (T4) on the one hand and then Deadpool X-Force (Why on earth??? Tier 1) on the other hand. This thing has to be far more balanced.
Some of the champs have to replaced. The arguments are: Useless without signature skill or completely useless
- Deadpool (useless) --> Rogue / Psylocke
- Juggernaut (useless w/o signature) --> Guillotine
- Iron Fist (useless w/o signature) --> The Hood
- Jane Foster (useless) -> Doc Strange
- Daredevil (useless w/o signature) --> Crossbones
- Rocket Racoon (HP way too low) --> Vision or Ultron
- Kingpin (useless) --> Hawkeye
Another reason for this list is the fact, that there almost no champs with decent accuracy reduction (like Crossbones has it) or power control (like Vision has it)
Again, no one is calling for god tiers, but at least make the content balanced and useful.
@Sickstring1 Has given good suggestions compared to what you guys are offering. They are not gods but at least they have some use. Rogue, psylocke, guilotine, the hood, hawkeye, vision, crossbones, and dr strange.
Also how will you guys be changing the alliance events to help keep up with the end game community with regards to rewards?
Theres no NC in the list so 1/3
You've been asked multiple times but have answer(or not seen them). Would the capacity for T2A also be increased?
Not to mention the fact that Jane Foster was in the underdog challenge. Just to remind you: The underdog challenge consisted of the most hated champs (according to polls). To sum up the conclusions to the players votings chronologically:
- Most players think Jane Foster is worthless
- Let's make new content, where you have to fight the most useless champs
- Let's call it the underdog challenge
- Let's add Jane Foster to that content (due to the fact that she's useless)
- And now let's add Jane Foster to the crystal with the rarest and most powerful champs in the whole game
Iron Fist
King Groot
Beast
Thor (Jane Foster)
Black Bolt
Rocket Racoon
All need buffs to make them viable 6* champions. Just like with the og 5* pool and magik, rhino and winter soldier getting buffs after being in the 5* pool.
I would take an awakened Rocket over venom. he's on the same level unawakened.
It's possible that you selling your champs is what's pushing you away. it's fine that you do that to gain more shards, but you're doing it in hopes of getting more useful 5*'s and "hope" is a very degenerate game.
Havent*
Any 6 star at rank 2 should be a viable option to 100%LOL. I would like to see anyone clear the easy path in LOL with an unduped Deadpool x force at rank 2/35 6 *
totally agree with you
I would disagree with that statement (to clarify, I do not believe Thor JF and Iron Fist are among the worst champs) but that's not what my post discussed. I specifically made a statement about saying something is useless for end game content explicitly.
Yes