Best Champs for the Ordeal?

Paul_RuddPaul_Rudd Member Posts: 210 โ˜…โ˜…
Looking on who the best options are for a run, any advice?
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  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,978 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,636 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Agree with above. In addition, Deathless She Hulk can take some fights well and also cheese Thanos.
  • Paul_RuddPaul_Rudd Member Posts: 210 โ˜…โ˜…
    edited June 13

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,033 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,978 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Vision is tough without ham, and also drago. Wiccan handles terrax and bpcw better. Which fights nefaria take haven't seen him much.

    Op I'll even use a r1 Wiccan. Just know that your team might struggle against domino and killmonger and apoc too. If you have shuri I'll strongly recommend her over warlock, she handles all 3 better.
  • Darthbane3141Darthbane3141 Member Posts: 1,301 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Onslaught is MVP. I used Prowler for the mutants, and any fight that had evade, but you can use Serpent for those fights. I used Titania for the Vision so I could tank sp3s. I used Ironheart and Hulk just when I needed to, but there are better options.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,033 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Onslaught is MVP. I used Prowler for the mutants, and any fight that had evade, but you can use Serpent for those fights. I used Titania for the Vision so I could tank sp3s. I used Ironheart and Hulk just when I needed to, but there are better options.

    Serpent is so often mentioned - does he need to be awakened or not really? is the immunity coming in useful with these fights or is it hardly relevant?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Vision is tough without ham, and also drago. Wiccan handles terrax and bpcw better. Which fights nefaria take haven't seen him much.

    Op I'll even use a r1 Wiccan. Just know that your team might struggle against domino and killmonger and apoc too. If you have shuri I'll strongly recommend her over warlock, she handles all 3 better.
    Nefaria can do Vision in a couple of tries, he can also do Dragon Man and Terrax with full health and very fast because of all the power gain, as for BPCW I do agree but Onslaught and Serpent alone can clear 80% of all fights on their own including that one, Wiccan can't so for that reason alone I'd rather take them because every slot counts.
  • Cuber2906Cuber2906 Member Posts: 251 โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Vision is tough without ham, and also drago. Wiccan handles terrax and bpcw better. Which fights nefaria take haven't seen him much.

    Op I'll even use a r1 Wiccan. Just know that your team might struggle against domino and killmonger and apoc too. If you have shuri I'll strongly recommend her over warlock, she handles all 3 better.
    Nefaria can do Vision in a couple of tries, he can also do Dragon Man and Terrax with full health and very fast because of all the power gain, as for BPCW I do agree but Onslaught and Serpent alone can clear 80% of all fights on their own including that one, Wiccan can't so for that reason alone I'd rather take them because every slot counts.
    nefaria can easily solo vision with a 5 or 6 star antman relic.

    my team was
    r3 unduped nefaria
    r4 unduped onslaught
    r3 sig 180 guardian
    r3 unduped cheelith
    r2 unduped serpent

    it definitely made some fight easier but also some harder ( killmonger, bpcw)
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,033 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    edited June 14

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
    That complicates things a little bit but you still have other options: Arcade, Zola or Deathstrike they should all be able to handle Domino and iBom. If you still don't have any of those then the only other option left is Red Skull or high sig Guardian for Domino and brute force iBom with Sinister but it might cost you a bit. If you don't have Red Skull or high sig Guardian then yeah I think you're cooked, no idea what else you could do there.
  • HendrossHendross Member Posts: 982 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Hoping on here, also planning Ordeal with
    1. Onslaught
    2. Deathless Thanos
    3. Deathless Shehulk
    4. Kushala
    5. Nick?

    Thoughts?

  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,237 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Will this work?
  • Shrink330Shrink330 Member Posts: 37 โ˜…
    edited June 14
    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,636 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…


    Will this work?

    Yes. This was almost my team except I had Juggs instead of Nefaria.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
  • Shrink330Shrink330 Member Posts: 37 โ˜…

    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
    Hmmmm... I dove in already ๐Ÿซฃ. Venom actually soloed Ham. I took it slow and steady. I'm at Korg now and taking a break until tomorrow. If NC and BPCW suck badly, even while trying to either take it slow or brute force, I will concede and take the L and back out. Much appreciated, though.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Shrink330 said:

    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
    Hmmmm... I dove in already ๐Ÿซฃ. Venom actually soloed Ham. I took it slow and steady. I'm at Korg now and taking a break until tomorrow. If NC and BPCW suck badly, even while trying to either take it slow or brute force, I will concede and take the L and back out. Much appreciated, though.
    The issue with NC and BPCW is the evade, Venom won't shut it down, it's doable just would've been way easier with Serpent because of his kit. Also Serpent can do both quicker as well because he's built for long form content but yes Venom can probably do it just harder and slower.
  • Shrink330Shrink330 Member Posts: 37 โ˜…

    Shrink330 said:

    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
    Hmmmm... I dove in already ๐Ÿซฃ. Venom actually soloed Ham. I took it slow and steady. I'm at Korg now and taking a break until tomorrow. If NC and BPCW suck badly, even while trying to either take it slow or brute force, I will concede and take the L and back out. Much appreciated, though.
    The issue with NC and BPCW is the evade, Venom won't shut it down, it's doable just would've been way easier with Serpent because of his kit. Also Serpent can do both quicker as well because he's built for long form content but yes Venom can probably do it just harder and slower.
    Agreed. OK, I will let you know how it goes when I jump back in tomorrow. Much appreciated. ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿพ
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,033 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
    That complicates things a little bit but you still have other options: Arcade, Zola or Deathstrike they should all be able to handle Domino and iBom. If you still don't have any of those then the only other option left is Red Skull or high sig Guardian for Domino and brute force iBom with Sinister but it might cost you a bit. If you don't have Red Skull or high sig Guardian then yeah I think you're cooked, no idea what else you could do there.
    I don't have a 7* Red Skull, and my 7* Guardian is unawakened. I DO however have a Deathstrike duped and an Arcade unduped. So those could work.

    Whoever I use, should I take them to R3? Same for my Serpent, should I take him to R3 even if he's unawakened?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    edited June 15

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
    That complicates things a little bit but you still have other options: Arcade, Zola or Deathstrike they should all be able to handle Domino and iBom. If you still don't have any of those then the only other option left is Red Skull or high sig Guardian for Domino and brute force iBom with Sinister but it might cost you a bit. If you don't have Red Skull or high sig Guardian then yeah I think you're cooked, no idea what else you could do there.
    I don't have a 7* Red Skull, and my 7* Guardian is unawakened. I DO however have a Deathstrike duped and an Arcade unduped. So those could work.

    Whoever I use, should I take them to R3? Same for my Serpent, should I take him to R3 even if he's unawakened?
    I definitely advice you take them to r3 yes, and I'd go Arcade personally just because he is currently a top defender for BGs as well and can be dual threat I did a Domino with him already.

    As for Ordeal itself, he should work on paper just remember the pre fights. For Domino pick the one where his parries and personal effects gain increased aa (I believe she can still fail dex so don't dex just do four hit combos back off parry and sp1 spam), and then for iBom make sure you pick the pre fight that gives him poison immunity (then just spam sp2s don't throw any heavies or sp1s).
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,978 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
    That complicates things a little bit but you still have other options: Arcade, Zola or Deathstrike they should all be able to handle Domino and iBom. If you still don't have any of those then the only other option left is Red Skull or high sig Guardian for Domino and brute force iBom with Sinister but it might cost you a bit. If you don't have Red Skull or high sig Guardian then yeah I think you're cooked, no idea what else you could do there.
    I don't have a 7* Red Skull, and my 7* Guardian is unawakened. I DO however have a Deathstrike duped and an Arcade unduped. So those could work.

    Whoever I use, should I take them to R3? Same for my Serpent, should I take him to R3 even if he's unawakened?
    I definitely advice you take them to r3 yes, and I'd go Arcade personally just because he is currently a top defender for BGs as well and can be dual threat I did a Domino with him already.

    As for Ordeal itself, he should work on paper just remember the pre fights. For Domino pick the one where his parries and personal effects gain increased aa (I believe she can still fail dex so don't dex just do four hit combos back off parry and sp1 spam), and then for iBom make sure you pick the pre fight that gives him poison immunity (then just spam sp2s don't throw any heavies or sp1s).
    I thinking ibom has node that punish you if you apply bleed. It's better to stock with sp1s
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…

    Paul_Rudd said:

    Sinister serpent are really great in general. Onslaught, one science champ (preferably spam, shehulk), one tech like shuri for domino apoc, or you can bring Wiccan and cheese bpcw who was very tough without a counter. But Sinister/onslaught and serpent/dthanos is a must.


    So then would this team work? My Wiccan is only R1 so could I use Kushala instead and SP1 spam for BPCW?
    You don't need Kushala for BPCW if you have Serpent he can do the fight, what you do need is a counter for Terrax, Kushala I think can do it but Nefaria is the safest by far. You also don't need Ham if you have Onslaught and he can do more fights so if you have Onslaught and Nefaria replace Ham and Kushala.
    Jumping on myself curious if *this* is a good enough team for the Ordeal based on the suggestions in this thread?


    Almost perfect only thing is you definitely want Shuri in there for Domino and iBom so I'd just take out Wiccan and throw Shuri in there, you're definitely going to want Shuri.
    So if I don't have a 7* Shuri and my 6* is only rank 1? haha
    That complicates things a little bit but you still have other options: Arcade, Zola or Deathstrike they should all be able to handle Domino and iBom. If you still don't have any of those then the only other option left is Red Skull or high sig Guardian for Domino and brute force iBom with Sinister but it might cost you a bit. If you don't have Red Skull or high sig Guardian then yeah I think you're cooked, no idea what else you could do there.
    I don't have a 7* Red Skull, and my 7* Guardian is unawakened. I DO however have a Deathstrike duped and an Arcade unduped. So those could work.

    Whoever I use, should I take them to R3? Same for my Serpent, should I take him to R3 even if he's unawakened?
    I definitely advice you take them to r3 yes, and I'd go Arcade personally just because he is currently a top defender for BGs as well and can be dual threat I did a Domino with him already.

    As for Ordeal itself, he should work on paper just remember the pre fights. For Domino pick the one where his parries and personal effects gain increased aa (I believe she can still fail dex so don't dex just do four hit combos back off parry and sp1 spam), and then for iBom make sure you pick the pre fight that gives him poison immunity (then just spam sp2s don't throw any heavies or sp1s).
    I thinking ibom has node that punish you if you apply bleed. It's better to stock with sp1s
    Oh yeah nvm good call right there, definitely sp1s only.
  • Shrink330Shrink330 Member Posts: 37 โ˜…

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    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
    Hmmmm... I dove in already ๐Ÿซฃ. Venom actually soloed Ham. I took it slow and steady. I'm at Korg now and taking a break until tomorrow. If NC and BPCW suck badly, even while trying to either take it slow or brute force, I will concede and take the L and back out. Much appreciated, though.
    The issue with NC and BPCW is the evade, Venom won't shut it down, it's doable just would've been way easier with Serpent because of his kit. Also Serpent can do both quicker as well because he's built for long form content but yes Venom can probably do it just harder and slower.
    Ok, jumped in for a bit at the end of a busy day. Picked up with Korg... hated it but powered through with Sinister. Had fun against D. Man with Nefaria. Then, that BPCW fight was not fun. You were right. Tried Venom... not good. Tried Shuri, worked for a little but was rough going. I revived Shuri, healed her up and hit fight, but was surprised to see Nefaria flying in to start the fight :D . Just thought I would just give it a go and then jump in with Shuri after. You know what, Nefaria was amaaaaaaaaaazing for the fight. Nefaria's evade created openings, especially when he's unblockable, waited out his evade and unstoppable and tried to block (not parry) until he threw a heavy or another opening came, timing each cycle as best as possible. I fell into a nice rhythm and it worked. I slipped up and got pinned against the wall and clipped, but took down most of his health. Will finish up tomorrow, and then throw Shuri at Crawler and see, especially as she shuts down evade later in her ramp. Whichever way, powering through.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,326 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Shrink330 said:

    Shrink330 said:

    Shrink330 said:

    Hopping on also since I'm just about planning to jump in over the next couple of days (after doing some farming for potions, etc.). This is my plan but would love some added insight (been watching Noob's vids, too):

    1. D. She-Hulk (r2, sig. 100)
    2. Sinister (r3, unawakened)
    3. Shuri (r3, sig. 20) or Warlock (r2, sig. 20)
    4. Nefaria (r2, sig. 40)
    5. Venom (r3, unawakened) or Vox (r3, unawakened)

    Still not sure on slot 5, but open to opinions. I don't have Onslaught (been chasing him for so long) or D. Thanos, Serpent and Wiccan are both r1 because I don't use them (the former because of my own personal gripe with Kabam's stance on the champ), Chee'ilth is r2, sig. 20, and Red Skull is r2, unawakened. Open to as much feedback as possible.

    You're really going to want Serpent for Nightcrawler BPCW and Ham, Venom is going to suck for all three fights.
    Hmmmm... I dove in already ๐Ÿซฃ. Venom actually soloed Ham. I took it slow and steady. I'm at Korg now and taking a break until tomorrow. If NC and BPCW suck badly, even while trying to either take it slow or brute force, I will concede and take the L and back out. Much appreciated, though.
    The issue with NC and BPCW is the evade, Venom won't shut it down, it's doable just would've been way easier with Serpent because of his kit. Also Serpent can do both quicker as well because he's built for long form content but yes Venom can probably do it just harder and slower.
    Ok, jumped in for a bit at the end of a busy day. Picked up with Korg... hated it but powered through with Sinister. Had fun against D. Man with Nefaria. Then, that BPCW fight was not fun. You were right. Tried Venom... not good. Tried Shuri, worked for a little but was rough going. I revived Shuri, healed her up and hit fight, but was surprised to see Nefaria flying in to start the fight :D . Just thought I would just give it a go and then jump in with Shuri after. You know what, Nefaria was amaaaaaaaaaazing for the fight. Nefaria's evade created openings, especially when he's unblockable, waited out his evade and unstoppable and tried to block (not parry) until he threw a heavy or another opening came, timing each cycle as best as possible. I fell into a nice rhythm and it worked. I slipped up and got pinned against the wall and clipped, but took down most of his health. Will finish up tomorrow, and then throw Shuri at Crawler and see, especially as she shuts down evade later in her ramp. Whichever way, powering through.
    Oh if you have Shuri you're good then, I took NC out with Shuri, not the quickest fight cause he wouldn't let me switch him but it was a solo.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,066 โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…โ˜…
    Iron heart is really damn good for the debuff paths
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