There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
Immortal hulk is not devil hulk. They're two separate identities of his personas. Regardless of that fact, gentle works absolutely fine the way he is. Just because YOU don't like doesn't mean its not a good working kit. Not every champ will appeal to every player. That's never changed.
Tbh tho gentles kit doesn't work, it's very controversial. A champ that's main purpose is to counter bullseye does physical damage (bullseye has very high phys resistance). Recoil is a mechanic that allows your champion to do an overwhelming amount of special damage but punish you by removing health each time it is used, however gentle gets his critical damage rating halved during his special 2 ultimately resulting in below average damage. The most damage he can do is 300k in a special 2 using the sp3 rotation and that's BAD for a 7* r3. He isn't a nuke either because he is incredibly inconsistent with muscle mass rng and sp2 rng. It's not like people don't like his kit, he is just unreliable as hell with very little payoff.
I actually din't know Bullseye had physical resistence,and it's 480 per Cruelty checking here
One S1 and thats almost 5000 physical resistence, thats a lot
There’s already been a thread on this subject. And no, gentle does not need a buff. He’s a great attacker and defender. I have my gentle at R3 and he tears it up everywhere I have used him
I also have a r3 gentle and counting all the times I have used him, there is no way in hell that he is as consistent as you claim him to be. Bro can barely nuke his matchups much less anything outside of his hard counters and you can't try to nuke in bgs because there's the constant worry of "will all his hits crit" and if one the hits doesn't crit his damage goes from good to bad real fast god forbid he hits anything less than 3 crits because then his damage is awful (which this has happened to me a TON).
In this game there's rng in pulling a certain champ and if you get a dud like him then there's added rng of will this work or not even when you play perfectly. Honestly it's bad design in 2025. They need to either make him solid defender like enchantress/ zola who can be used as attacker but mainly defence or make him a solid attacker like okoye or bastian. Don't make him mid for god sake
Have you pulled Red Hulk, Falcon or Spider Supreme?
I have. I'll happily exchange any one of them(rulk is duped BTW) for gentle.
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Is there also comic book lore on why green Falcon is so bad? Or how leader is scuffed version of count neferia?
Leader's actually got some of the best Regen and Power Gain reversal in the game to distinguish him from Nefaria.
Green Falcon however is scuffed Spider-Woman.
Falcon just have Debilitate to compare with Spider Woman, he has his own kit but still meh for today standards even tought is just normal damage but science is soo stacked it looks mediocre
There’s already been a thread on this subject. And no, gentle does not need a buff. He’s a great attacker and defender. I have my gentle at R3 and he tears it up everywhere I have used him
I also have a r3 gentle and counting all the times I have used him, there is no way in hell that he is as consistent as you claim him to be. Bro can barely nuke his matchups much less anything outside of his hard counters and you can't try to nuke in bgs because there's the constant worry of "will all his hits crit" and if one the hits doesn't crit his damage goes from good to bad real fast god forbid he hits anything less than 3 crits because then his damage is awful (which this has happened to me a TON).
In this game there's rng in pulling a certain champ and if you get a dud like him then there's added rng of will this work or not even when you play perfectly. Honestly it's bad design in 2025. They need to either make him solid defender like enchantress/ zola who can be used as attacker but mainly defence or make him a solid attacker like okoye or bastian. Don't make him mid for god sake
Have you pulled Red Hulk, Falcon or Spider Supreme?
I have. I'll happily exchange any one of them(rulk is duped BTW) for gentle.
You going to regret asking that.... Because I already have opened BWDO, mystic spidey, Gentle, Hitmonkey. In that order. BWDO just before titan changed. And after hitmonkey I got okoye and then RED HULK and last crystal was HITMONKEY DUPE . I haven't even made post how bad RNG is for me
All the people reading that gentle getting no work or buff. Just give him gurrenteed crit on spcl 2 ATLEAST... ATLEAST
Don't expect every champion to be game breaking, it's Kabam after all. Remember that time when Serpent wasn't nerfed, and that Isophyne never got buffed?
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Immortal hulk did attack opponents until his fists and body started to break in the run which is clearly the point. Not every single aspect of a kit is based on lore, some of it is based on balance and when Gentle does crit he does a hell of a lot of damage, also worth noting that the reverb and daunted means he's doing a lot more damage regardless given that they increase each other's damage
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
Immortal hulk is not devil hulk. They're two separate identities of his personas. Regardless of that fact, gentle works absolutely fine the way he is. Just because YOU don't like doesn't mean its not a good working kit. Not every champ will appeal to every player. That's never changed.
Immortal Hulk is the name of the saga and the story to beggin with,the immortal Hulk in game is Devil Hulk in the control of Hulks body and thats confirmed in the Event Quest from when he was released,is basicly the same story as the comic and we even fight Maestro and Joe Fixit inside the Hulk mind
And is not that i don't like Gentle,i hate how they don't have reason or justification for those mechanics and still put on him, The amount of Drawback is extremely uncessary and end just as a bad idea that locks a realy cool looking champion behind weaknesses he shouldn't have,and I'm not the only person complaining about this on social media as much on places like Reddit, Discord or Forum itself, this thread have people saying they don't like it too
They have reason for the recoil, regardless of it being healed later on they chose to focus on that aspect of him for his kit, this is a thing that happens in the game. There's no justification for a lot of the stuff in the game they just chose to make him a higher risk higher reward character that synergies with recoils
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Unlike the character you can chose to turn off and when to use the Mastery that in compensation gives you basicly double damage, Ihulk and Gentle is base kit ability with only gentle having a way to midgate the self Damage with Awakening and they don't get extra damage for it they simply lose health
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Unlike the character you can chose to turn off and when to use the Mastery that in compensation gives you basicly double damage, Ihulk and Gentle is base kit ability with only gentle having a way to midgate the self Damage with Awakening and they don't get extra damage for it they simply lose health
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
And we have that in game with Toxic Armor from Venom Duck,the opponent gets more armor rating but you deal a burst of damage based on ther armor rating,thats where they took Serpent special 2 from
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
yeah like,why talk about Gentle on a post about Gentle?
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
And many people here who complain about specific points about a champion they like that could have been fixed and still Rank him up and play him,not just beaucase we Rank up the Champion that we can't complain about parts of his kit that have a problem
The whole point of the post is talk about Gentle soo why Complain when people are talking about Gentle both in the form of criticism and praise that doesn't make sense
What do we have to cope about? they already annouced he won't get buff and they they certainly won't go back
I have him and took him to R3 unduped. And while I do see the issues where he doesn't crit on his sp2 (leaving the defender at 1% grumble grumble), to me he is less an ultimate bullseye counter and more an ultimate stun reflect counter. Which works for me as I take all the stun reflect lanes on map 8 and run recoils while I do. To me he feels like he was designed specifically to counter bullseye on the stun reflect mini and seems to do that really well, but yeah in BGs he is definitely RNG reliant .
I have him and took him to R3 unduped. And while I do see the issues where he doesn't crit on his sp2 (leaving the defender at 1% grumble grumble), to me he is less an ultimate bullseye counter and more an ultimate stun reflect counter. Which works for me as I take all the stun reflect lanes on map 8 and run recoils while I do. To me he feels like he was designed specifically to counter bullseye on the stun reflect mini and seems to do that really well, but yeah in BGs he is definitely RNG reliant .
he was made for Bullseye on one of the 40 to above nodes in the old war map
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Unlike the character you can chose to turn off and when to use the Mastery that in compensation gives you basicly double damage, Ihulk and Gentle is base kit ability with only gentle having a way to midgate the self Damage with Awakening and they don't get extra damage for it they simply lose health
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
I hulk is specifically designed as a way of dealing with damage back nodes too in that that damage often counts towards his rage damage and he absolutely shreds specific fights because of that. Idk if you've ever played him but hes not that inconsistent, especially with a relic.
Yeah gentle could be that I guess, but that would make him a different champion that wasn't what they intended him to be. You can fully ignore the damage back too, even unawakened.
You just want the characters to have less risk and equally bigger reward which is not a good design philosophy
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Unlike the character you can chose to turn off and when to use the Mastery that in compensation gives you basicly double damage, Ihulk and Gentle is base kit ability with only gentle having a way to midgate the self Damage with Awakening and they don't get extra damage for it they simply lose health
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
And we have that in game with Toxic Armor from Venom Duck,the opponent gets more armor rating but you deal a burst of damage based on ther armor rating,thats where they took Serpent special 2 from
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
And many people here who complain about specific points about a champion they like that could have been fixed and still Rank him up and play him,not just beaucase we Rank up the Champion that we can't complain about parts of his kit that have a problem
The whole point of the post is talk about Gentle soo why Complain when people are talking about Gentle both in the form of criticism and praise that doesn't make sense
What do we have to cope about? they already annouced he won't get buff and they they certainly won't go back
The issue is that you think a core part of his design is something to be fixed, when it's clearly the intended design
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
Yet anyone who likes gentle can't provide any points that explain his consistency or damage is good while everyone who doesn't like him or criticizes his design makes valid points on why his kit is unreliable and controversial. Use ur cranium m8.
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Well simple, most champs do better damage. No one is going to Like a champ with built in recoil that does average damage and can't achieve anything past average damage. Gentle's recoil is just off-brand.
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
And many people here who complain about specific points about a champion they like that could have been fixed and still Rank him up and play him,not just beaucase we Rank up the Champion that we can't complain about parts of his kit that have a problem
The whole point of the post is talk about Gentle soo why Complain when people are talking about Gentle both in the form of criticism and praise that doesn't make sense
What do we have to cope about? they already annouced he won't get buff and they they certainly won't go back
The issue is that you think a core part of his design is something to be fixed, when it's clearly the intended design
you are being condescending beaucase is not possible, i'm talking characters not needing to deal damage to themselfs to have drawbacks and then I proceed to mention a ability that has a drawback that gives you something back to help, give Armor rating to the opponent and in exchange you deal a burst of damage the increase based on ther armor rating
DLL even mentions that was from where they took Serpent S2 when i said Serpent S2 would be great with Toxic armor when serpent came out
There's no need for recoils, Let bro do his whole damage without getting spanked by random recoil damage.
Swear Kabam is so damn scared that they'll make another CGR Hercules despite making god awful defenders back to back in row.
So bad.
It's in keeping with his comic lore where using his powers uncontrollably caused him damage. That's the point behind it
Devil Hulk din't had that problem and Gentle as show in the comments also doesn't have have almost 8 years, doesn't even make sense the Self crit damage nerf beaucase he Gets stronger not weaker, him hurting himself doesn't take away part of his strengh
Devil hulk also isnt in game. Even if gentle doesn't have that issue in comics now, he did at one point and that's the version kabam used. Nothing wrong with that. It's a new take on existing mechanics. Also nothing wrong there.
Immortal hulk is Devil Hulk and no his not Below All beaucase theres a huge design difference and story,in game story it's Devil Hulk
and yes there is a problem in using this existing mechanic that NOBODY LIKED, It's the same thing as using an bad old event model that already exists and using it today, It didn't work in the past and it doesn't work now and it didn't add anything other than a detail that didn't even need to exist to beggin with.
Not just beaucase already existed that wans't bad
If people didn't like recoils then why do so many people use the suicide masteries?
Unlike the character you can chose to turn off and when to use the Mastery that in compensation gives you basicly double damage, Ihulk and Gentle is base kit ability with only gentle having a way to midgate the self Damage with Awakening and they don't get extra damage for it they simply lose health
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
I hulk is specifically designed as a way of dealing with damage back nodes too in that that damage often counts towards his rage damage and he absolutely shreds specific fights because of that. Idk if you've ever played him but hes not that inconsistent, especially with a relic.
Yeah gentle could be that I guess, but that would make him a different champion that wasn't what they intended him to be. You can fully ignore the damage back too, even unawakened.
You just want the characters to have less risk and equally bigger reward which is not a good design philosophy
Ihulk was designed to damage back nodes and? how does that prove is not a problem or a bad design idea? beaucase thats the first time i ever heard of anyone even mentioning him for that node ,even people who main him never mention that node even content creators
And i played IHulk he was one of my first 5* and he is extremely inconsistent and heavily AI reliant even with the Immortality,i can play and like the character and point out obvious design issues
Ther intention for Gentle wans't good in practice beaucase theres nothing in exchange to the Draw back besides not taking damage from a optional mastery,lf he wa would be different from ther original idea then just do it they are already taking many risks with kits anyways
You can only avoid the Damage back with Gentle unless you kill the opponent in time or you use the S2 with only 11 daunted that sacrifices 60% of your burst and damage
Excuse me but whats about the last part of you your first comment?
"Less risk and Big reward is not a good design philosophy"
Funny you saying that when Kabam themselfs are doing this till today but for some some characters get better than others
What was the risk with all the new characters released this year besides Gentle?
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
Yet anyone who likes gentle can't provide any points that explain his consistency or damage is good while everyone who doesn't like him or criticizes his design makes valid points on why his kit is unreliable and controversial. Use ur cranium m8.
Why exactly should they? They like the character and his design kit. That's literally all that's important. Not trying to sway the people who don't. If you want someone to come up with reasons to use a champ, do it yourself. Otherwise, move along.
This really is a whole lot of complaining about one single characters kit. Even if your argument is that he's supposed to be a bullseye counter, well there's already quite a few in game that do it better anyways so why even continue to cry about gentle? It's one champ. Out of 300+. Just use someone else.
*Joins conversation* *make a terrible take* *People point out that terrible take* *Proceeds to complain about the conversation* 🗣️
Nah. It's only a terrible take according to your opinion. Plenty of other people like gentle just the way he is and plenty of people understand why he was crated the way he is. Cope harder.
Yet anyone who likes gentle can't provide any points that explain his consistency or damage is good while everyone who doesn't like him or criticizes his design makes valid points on why his kit is unreliable and controversial. Use ur cranium m8.
Why exactly should they? They like the character and his design kit. That's literally all that's important. Not trying to sway the people who don't. If you want someone to come up with reasons to use a champ, do it yourself. Otherwise, move along.
Do you gonna say that everytime they Skip a buff for someone who needs and tell the person to simply pick another option?
If they gonna release a character that has problems and gonna ignore It soo you play with already existing options,them why release in the first besides getting profit?
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One S1 and thats almost 5000 physical resistence, thats a lot
I have. I'll happily exchange any one of them(rulk is duped BTW) for gentle.
Green Falcon however is scuffed Spider-Woman.
All the people reading that gentle getting no work or buff. Just give him gurrenteed crit on spcl 2 ATLEAST... ATLEAST
And the reward is not worth huge incosistency they have as much on Gentle crit chance and Hulk needing the Ai to coperate soo you can stack rage and deal more damage
they have a reason to have recoil but still a bad reason for a bad mechanic
You want a drawback mechanic that doesn't require to kill yourself to use? Why din't they focus on weaknesses and gave the character another damage source to focus, Gentle for example could get weaknesses and the special damage would come from the reverb and daunted boosting, Ihulk too you could make the rage give you less base attack damage but increase your burst damage
The whole point of the post is talk about Gentle soo why Complain when people are talking about Gentle both in the form of criticism and praise that doesn't make sense
What do we have to cope about? they already annouced he won't get buff and they they certainly won't go back
Yeah gentle could be that I guess, but that would make him a different champion that wasn't what they intended him to be. You can fully ignore the damage back too, even unawakened.
You just want the characters to have less risk and equally bigger reward which is not a good design philosophy
DLL even mentions that was from where they took Serpent S2 when i said Serpent S2 would be great with Toxic armor when serpent came out
And i played IHulk he was one of my first 5* and he is extremely inconsistent and heavily AI reliant even with the Immortality,i can play and like the character and point out obvious design issues
Ther intention for Gentle wans't good in practice beaucase theres nothing in exchange to the Draw back besides not taking damage from a optional mastery,lf he wa would be different from ther original idea then just do it they are already taking many risks with kits anyways
You can only avoid the Damage back with Gentle unless you kill the opponent in time or you use the S2 with only 11 daunted that sacrifices 60% of your burst and damage
Excuse me but whats about the last part of you your first comment?
"Less risk and Big reward is not a good design philosophy"
Funny you saying that when Kabam themselfs are doing this till today but for some some characters get better than others
What was the risk with all the new characters released this year besides Gentle?
If they gonna release a character that has problems and gonna ignore It soo you play with already existing options,them why release in the first besides getting profit?